# Ireland: most popular baby names

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**Created:** [May 20, 2004, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163 "2004-05-20T12:01:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/1 "2004-05-20T12:01:05Z")

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The Central Statistics Office has just released the list of most popular baby names in Ireland in 2003.

The Top Ten for boys are:  
Seán  
Jack  
Adam  
Conor  
James  
Daniel  
Michael  
Cian  
David  
Dylan

For girls:  
Emma  
Sarah  
Aoife  
Ciara  
Katie  
Sophie  
Rachel  
Chloe  
Amy  
Leah

Full results [here](http://www.cso.ie/publications/demog/babynames.pdf) (warning: pdf file)

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**Author:** ![sunfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@sunfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sunfish)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/2 "2004-05-20T12:30:26Z")

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For those of us who are Gaelic-impaired, how are Cian, Aoife, and Ciana pronounced?

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/3 "2004-05-20T12:43:13Z")

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My approximations (not being Irish):

Cian: KEE-un\*  
Aoife: EE-fuh  
Ciara: KEE-ruh\*

In the case of Cian and Ciara, the “EE” sound is more like the “EA” you find in the word ‘ear’.

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/4 "2004-05-20T12:46:04Z")

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Ciara = Kira

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/5 "2004-05-20T12:50:09Z")

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Kira soulds a little too like Kye-Ra

it should be more like Kia-ra.

I’m glad we’ve gone back to normal names. It was getting a bit rediculous.

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/6 "2004-05-20T13:06:12Z")

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No, Twisty, Kira and Ciara are homophones, at least the way “Kira” is pronounced in North America.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/7 "2004-05-20T13:08:22Z")

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> [@TwistofFate](#):
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> it should be more like Kia-ra.

Call my sister ‘kia-ra’ and she will hate you for all eternity.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/8 "2004-05-20T13:22:06Z")

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> [@GorillaMan](#):
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> Call my sister ‘kia-ra’ and she will hate you for all eternity.

Is that because her name is actually Angela?

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**Author:** ![sunfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@sunfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sunfish)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/9 "2004-05-20T13:36:08Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> My approximations (not being Irish):
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> Cian: KEE-un\*  
> Aoife: EE-fuh  
> Ciara: KEE-ruh\*
> 
> In the case of Cian and Ciara, the “EE” sound is more like the “EA” you find in the word ‘ear’.

Thanks!

Sooo… I’m guessing now that [this fella’s first name](http://www.bravotv.com/Queer_Eye_for_the_Straight_Guy/Kyan_Douglas/) has not only gotten an Americanized spelling but also an Americanized pronounciation (KYE-un).

Does it make you want to scream when you see/hear such things, or have you seen so many examples by now that you no longer have the energy to protest? 😃

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/10 "2004-05-20T13:41:49Z")

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> [@sunfish](#):
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> Does it make you want to scream when you see/hear such things, or have you seen so many examples by now that you no longer have the energy to protest? 😃

The latter. E.g. I know the Irish name Caitlin is pronounced ‘KATE-linn’ in the US - the actual Irish pronunciation, however, is actually Kathleen (or Katleen).

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/11 "2004-05-20T13:46:51Z")

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And things have come full circle. That little girl who was killed in Limerick last year when her house was petrol bombed was called Katelyn.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/12 "2004-05-20T13:51:33Z")

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> [@sunfish](#):
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> Thanks!
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> Sooo… I’m guessing now that [this fella’s first name](http://www.bravotv.com/Queer_Eye_for_the_Straight_Guy/Kyan_Douglas/) has not only gotten an Americanized spelling but also an Americanized pronounciation (KYE-un).

Kyan is a different name: there was a King of Ulster named Anselan O’Kyan. It also has an unrelated African origin.

I did see a ‘Ciara’ on a US talk show who introduced herself as “See-ah-ruh”. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/13 "2004-05-20T13:53:13Z")

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> [@ruadh](#):
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> And things have come full circle. That little girl who was killed in Limerick last year when her house was petrol bombed was called Katelyn.

I was saddened to see so many boring English names in the girls in the OP. Isn’t there enough frickken Emmas in the world already? (Apologies to the Emmas reading this…)

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/14 "2004-05-20T13:58:26Z")

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I just can’t wait for “Chloe” to disappear. What a horrible thing to do to a poor defenseless baby girl.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/15 "2004-05-20T14:03:56Z")

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> [@GorillaMan](#):
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> Kyan is a different name: there was a King of Ulster named Anselan O’Kyan. It also has an unrelated African origin.

Ah okay, a different name altogether - so one less egregious offense. 😉 But an African origin, really? I’m just curious as to the particulars. A Google search on “Anselan O’Kyan” brings up a bunch of Scottish/Irish genealogy sites.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/16 "2004-05-20T14:07:44Z")

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> [@sunfish](#):
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> Ah okay, a different name altogether - so one less egregious offense. 😉 But an African origin, really?

I don’t know the details, I only discovered it [here](http://www.babynology.com/babynames/m-african-fourK.html) while googling.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/17 "2004-05-20T14:10:42Z")

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But what about “Oisin” and “Caoimhe”? All I can guess is “Oozin’” and “Cavvie.” 😕

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/18 "2004-05-20T14:14:26Z")

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> [@GorillaMan](#):
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> Kyan is a different name: there was a King of Ulster named Anselan O’Kyan. It also has an unrelated African origin.

Although, that particular Kyan is a stage name, and was adapted from “Cayenne.” And no, I don’t have a cite, I found that on some Queer Eye bio page a few months back and I’m not gonna go dig it up. I believe his real name is Eddie.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/19 "2004-05-20T14:16:15Z")

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> [@Neidhart](#):
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> But what about “Oisin” and “Caoimhe”? All I can guess is “Oozin’” and “Cavvie.” 😕

USH een

KWEE vuh

would be how I’d pronounce them.

Note that the report removes accent marks from the names which is a bit of a cop out in my opinion, especially as Sean is two different names depending on which vowel the accent is on.

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**Author:** ![curly\_chick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ba0ec/32.png) [@curly\_chick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curly_chick)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2004, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ireland-most-popular-baby-names/246163/20 "2004-05-20T14:17:32Z")

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> [@Neidhart](#):
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> But what about “Oisin” and “Caoimhe”? All I can guess is “Oozin’” and “Cavvie.” 😕

Usheen (emphasis on the “ush” ) and Cweeva, if you use the same phonetics as me

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