# Iron Chef Part Quattro **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 24, 2001, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921 "2001-06-24T00:12:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Ziactrice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ab097/32.png) [@Ziactrice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ziactrice)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2001, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/101 "2001-06-29T03:34:06Z")
The scary fortune teller has just informed me I need to focus on work concerns or face a harsh financial future (e.g. my current project has the original Impossible Schedule from Hell). I’ll just have to say that I’m glad I don’t have time to try and judge this battle… what a theme! What masterful recipes - I think it was really a good match. Best of luck in the future, and I’ll be seeing you all in a couple of weeks. I’ll be the pale lady with black circles under her eyes, eraser in her hair, and a trashed, relieved look of ‘finally done’ on my face. Ziactrice ---
**Author:** ![JavaMaven1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@JavaMaven1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JavaMaven1)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2001, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/102 "2001-06-29T04:40:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Chef Troy \* > \*\*As the challenger has flour all over her hands, I will take the liberty of answering this question on her behalf. > > The point of the “raft” is to remove all the impurities from the stock. Homemade stock is cloudy and has tiny bits of stuff floating in it… for consommé, you want to clarify the stock so it’s completely clear and pure, which you do by concocting the raft and periodically pushing the foam and other gunk up that rises to the top of the simmering stock onto the raft so it doesn’t get re-incorporated into the stock. Why egg whites? because they float. \*\* Thanks for answering, **Chef Troy**. I’d like to add that the egg whites are used because they have magical purifying properites. The proteins in the egg whites attract all those little impurities and help clarify the stock. It’s really a sight to behold, actually. To demonstrate the consomme technique, my Chef Instructor had ran a large can of tomato fillets briefly through a food processor until it was about the texture of a lumpy slush, dumped in about a dozen egg whites, and let it simmer. Thirty minutes later, he had this perfectly clear yellow-red broth that tasted powerfully of tomatoes. Not one impurity in sight. Cool stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2001, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/103 "2001-06-29T11:28:03Z")
**Ziactrice** , no problem, I understand work concerns. Feel free to rejoin when you can. I only have a few minutes to post right now, so I’m going to have to dispense with the descriptions and such this once. :: dramatic music :: The winner is… **Javamaven1** ```auto Javamaven1 Iron Chef Troy Astroboy 20 19 Scylla 18 16 Hamlet (& Ophelia) 17 16 Jekeira 19 18 Tornado Siren 17 18 Wring 15 16 ------------------------------------------------------ 105 103 Average Score 18 17 ``` In an incredibly tight battle, **Javamaven1** has beaten **Iron Chef Troy!** **Iron Chef Javamaven** , do not rest on your laurels. Your challenger will be **Tornado Siren**. The theme ingredient will be announced sometime today. Chairman Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Chef\_Troy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Chef\_Troy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chef_Troy)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2001, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/104 "2001-06-29T12:41:12Z")
I knew I shouldn’t have mouthed off in Scylla’s benevolent despot thread. Sigh… I’m a George Bush. I’m a one-termer. _sobs_ ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2001, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/105 "2001-06-29T21:28:41Z")
I typed this up once and a \ power loss killed it. Our battle today is between returning challenger **Tornado Siren** and current **Iron Chef Javamaven**. Our ingredient today can be found all over the world. But New Mexico is where my fondest memories of the ingredient comes from. In early fall their evocative scent, as they’re roasted, brings tears to my eye and a hunger in my belly. I try to travel down to New Mexico once a year to get a bushel. Today’s ingredient is :: red spotlight plays on the smoke as the ingredient rises, brilliantly colored :: Chilis. Several varities of chilies as a matter of fact. Anaheim (very mild) Jalapenos (medium), Serrano (somewhat hot) , Bird Peppers (very hot), Habaneros (extremely hot) and Scotch Bonnet (nuclear. To my tastes, scoville units aside, Scotch Bonnets are far hotter than Habaneros) Each dish must contain at least one type of chili. Cooking will last until 8:00 PM, MST Sunday night. Tasting and judgement will begin at the deadline or when both chefs have submitted their recipes, whichever comes first. Allez Cuisine! Chairman Fenris (More chili info can be found [here](http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~gcaselton/chile/chile.html) ) ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2001, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/106 "2001-06-29T22:13:13Z")
yum, yum, yum!!! oh, this will be very exciting! and so versitile! and since we have a wide assortment of peppers available at home, we’ll be able to actually try some of them, too! most excellent choice, **Fenris-san** let the brib- I mean, cooking begin! ---
**Author:** ![Tornado\_Siren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@Tornado\_Siren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tornado_Siren)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2001, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/107 "2001-06-29T22:44:46Z")
Challenger Tornado Siren is now donning her asbestos gloves and running out to her garden to pick some fresh peppers. What a wonderful ingredient, Chairman Fenris. I will enjoy this one immensely. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2001, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/108 "2001-06-30T01:38:24Z")
Oh my! This should be one for the ages. I guess the advantage has to go to Javamaven, seeing as she’s working in a Mexican restaurant. On the other hand Tornado Siren really pulled some startling surprises in her first go around in kitchen stadium. Based on her “go for it,” style of cooking I’d say anything can happen. This ingrediennt really plays into the “wild card” meal that Tornado seems so adept at. You know that’s gotta be weighing on Javamaven’s mind and both competitors are going to have to pull out all the stops if they want to win. I’m trembling with anticipation. ---
**Author:** ![Tornado\_Siren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@Tornado\_Siren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tornado_Siren)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2001, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/109 "2001-06-30T17:48:28Z")
Picture it. Sunday. Your day off. It’s going to be a lazy day spent lounging around,listening to music, watching some tv, thinking about all the chores you need to do, working on a puzzle, and EATING. My menu will be presented in a breakfast, lunch, supper, late night munchie format. Breakfast comes to you in bed, served on a silver platter. Large peppers stuffed with homemade sausage have been baked in the oven with just a touch of cheese on top. Served with a Denver style omelette filled to bursting with cheese, onions, peppers, tomatoes and a bit of the sausage. After a grueling morning telling the kids to leave you alone, you are more than ready for lunch. Pull that tv tray in front of your favorite easy chair and kick back to enjoy a bowl of spicy chicken soup, flavored with mild peppers served with a classic southern dish of okra tomatoes and peppers, and a hunk of pepper cornbread. The sun is setting and now its suppertime. How about beef? Round steak pounded till flat and then rolled around a marvellous stuffing (not gonna tell ya what it will be yet. Want you to be surprised). Skewers of onions, and peppers have been blowtorched and placed around the steak for a crispy hot shish-kebab. Now, its time to pop your favorite movie into the DVD player and relax and enjoy the last few hours of your day. While you watch, enjoy a bowl of apple-pepper chutney with your choice of dipping mediums. Crusty bread or cornchips. Now…roll off to bed. It’s been a long day, and you have to work tomorrow. Recipes will follow later this afternoon. I am still experimenting, but wanted to get something posted. ---
**Author:** ![Tornado\_Siren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@Tornado\_Siren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tornado_Siren)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2001, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/110 "2001-06-30T23:37:25Z")
Oh, sure… you’re all going to suddenly pretend you’ve got lives. I get it. No problem. I’ll just go first and expose myself to ridicule. Here goes… Homemade sausage-stuffed peppers with Denver Style omelette Sausage 1 Lb ground pork butt 1 1/2 tsp Salt 2 tsp Pepper 1 1/2 Tsp Sage 1/2 tsp thyme 2 tbsps very finely chopped habanero peppers 1/4 cup ice water * * * Refrigerate ground pork until it is very cold (just above freezing). In a medium sized bowl, mix all the other ingredients together. Add ground pork to water and spices and thoroughly mix it all together. Use your hands, it works best. Take 8 anaheim peppers. Deseed peppers. Spread them open taking care not to break them completely and fill each one with the sausage. Lay the peppers in a shallow baking dish sausage side up and cook for 20 minutes at 350 degrees. Omelette 3 eggs 3 tblsps water 1/2 tsp salt 1/4 cup sharp cheddar cheese 1/8 cup each of chopped green peppers and onions 2 tbsps chopped jalapeno peppers 1/4 cup sliced mushroom Fresh tomato slices Sautee onions, green peppers, and jalapenos in 1 tbsp olive oil until onions are translucent but peppers are still crisp. Whisk together eggs salt and water. ## Pour into well buttered and well heated skillet. Put pepper and onion mixture, mushrooms, and cheese onto egg. Cook for 1 minute, then fold egg in half. After folding, cook for 30 seconds more. Turn and cook for another 30 seconds. Transfer onto large plate. Decorate top with fresh tomato slices, and place peppers around the Omelette. Crumble a tablespoon of feta cheese onto each sausage pepper, and serve. Spicey Surprise (a real big surprise, if you don’t like okra) 3 oxtails 1 pound fresh okra cleaned and chopped into small medallions. 1 small onion, chopped 1/2 cup medium chopped bird peppers 1/4 cup butter 1 1/2 tsp sugar 1 tsp salt 2 stalks celery, destringed and chopped 5 medium sized tomatoes In medium stock pot brown oxtails. Cover with water, add salt and pepper to taste. Boil for several hours to create a rich stock. Strain and return to stock pot. Peel tomatoes. Roughly chop and then add to stock. Cook for approx 1 hour. Saute okra in 1/4 cup butter with onions and bird beppers. Add okra mixture to stewing tomatoes together with 1 tsp salt, 3 tsps fresh basil (finely chopped) and 1 1/2 tsp sugar. Simmer for 25 minutes over medium heat. Ladle into Brown earthenware bowls. Slice cornbread into thick slices and place on top of each bowl. Cornbread 1 cup all-purpose flour 1 cup yellow cornmeal 1/2 cup white sugar 1 teaspoon salt 3 1/2 teaspoons baking powder 1 egg 1 cup milk 1/3 cup bacon drippings 1/4 cup deseeded, finely chopped anaheim pepper ## Combine all ingredients in a bowl. Pour into well greased 9 inch pan, and bake for 25 minutes in oven (preheated to 400). Serve hot. Chicken Soup with Zing ## 2 tablespoons olive oil 1 white onion, diced 3 tablespoons finely diced 4 Scotch bonnet peppers,sliced 6 cups chicken stock 1/8 cup fresh lime juice 1/8 cup white wine 1/4 tsp lime zest 1 tomato, seeded and diced salt and pepper to taste 1 avacado peeled and cut into slices 1/4 cup chopped fresh cilantro Directions Use your favorite chicken stock recipe and reserve 2 cups of shredded meat. In large saucepan over medium heat, cook onion, garlic, and peppers in olive oil until lightly browned. Add chicken stock, chicken, wine, lime juice, lime zest, tomatoes and salt and pepper. Simmer for another 20 minutes. Stir in cilantro and remove from heat. Pour into individual bowls and place 2 slices of avacodo in each bowl. Stuffed steak-pepper kebabs 1 lb round steak 1/4 cup yellow corn meal 1 egg, well beaten 2 bell peppers, deseeded, roughly chopped 1 onion, peeled, cut into wedges 2 cups of olive oil 8 roasted serrano peppers 1/2 cup sour cream ## Cut round steak into 8 equal portions. Place portion of steak between pages of plastic wrap, pound, flattening to 1/8 inch. Remove wrap. Cut one pepper in half, open, and place on center of steak portion. Cover again with wrap, and flatten pepper to steak. Remove wrap. Roll steak with pepper inside into a tight tube shape. Hold tube shape with toothpick. Repeat with all serving portion. Preheat 2 cups of olive oil in medium saucepan to 400 F. Dip meat rolls into egg, coat with corn meal, and drop one at a time into hot oil. Fry for 2 minutes. Remove and drain. Remove toothpicks from meat rolls. Insert meatrolls onto skewers, alternating with bell pepper and onion. Utilize handy kitchen blowtorch to crisp the outsides of the vegetables. Serve with sour cream. Pepper Chutney and Bruschetto 4 cups Golden delicious apples, cored, peeled and finely diced. 1/4 cup finely diced jalapeno peppers 1/2 tsp minced garlic 1/4 cup minced onion 3 tbsp brown sugar 1 cup white dessert wine 1/4 tsp cinnamon 1/8 tsp nutmeg 1/8 tsp cloves 1/2 tsp dry mustard 1/4 tsp salt Combine all ingredients in a large pan. Cover and bring to a boil. Uncover and simmer for 1 1/2 hours, until thickened. Refrigerate. Serve in large bowl surrounded by bruschetto. In this chef’s opinion, nothing goes better with this than a cold dark beer. Bruschetto 1 loaf French bread (bought or homemade. My recipe for french bread follows) 2 cloves garlic, (finely minced), jarred garlic or garlic powder Fresh parsley, chopped Fresh basil, chopped Extra virgin olive oil Slice bread in 1/2-inch thick slices. Brush with oil and garlic. Broil until golden. Sprinkle with chopped fresh basil and parsley. Drizzle lightly with oil and serve immediately. French bread 5-6 cups flour 2 packages dry yeast 1 1/2 tsps salt 2 cups warm water corn meal In a large bowl mix 1 3/4 cups flour, salt and yeast. Stir in 2 cups warm water. Mix vigorously for 3 to 4 minutes.Add as much remaining flour as you can using a spoon, then transfer to floured surface and knead in remaining flour. You should knead for a MINIMUM of 5 minutes to get the texture just right. Place kneaded dough into greased bowl and let rise for 1 1/2 hours. Divide dough in half Roll out each half into a rectangle approx 10x8 inches long . Roll up from the long end. Place onto baking sheet dusted with corn meal and let rise for another 45 minutes. Bake in 375 degree oven for 40 minutes. Cool on rack completely. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2001, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/111 "2001-07-01T16:24:28Z")
gosh, it’s awfully quiet in here. I’ve assembled all the peppers, gotten my Dr. Pepper out, and been peppering my friends with requests. so, where’s the chefs??? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2001, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/112 "2001-07-01T16:27:20Z")
We haven’t heard from **Iron Chef Javamaven1** since her astounding victory. I’m inclined to grant an extension, if needed. Chairman Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/113 "2001-07-02T03:17:05Z")
This has never happened in Kitchen Stadium before. Since **Javamaven1** has been such a good and consistent poster, and since we’ve heard nothing from her, I’m inclined to assume that there’s turmoil or just extreme busyness in her personal or professional life. Therefore, I’m inclined to grant until tomorrow evening, 8:00 PM (MST). If we don’t hear something by then, I’d like the judges to critique **Tornado Siren’s** dishes and we’ll grant a win by default so that the contest can continue. I throw the floor open to the judges and **Tornado Siren** for their opinions. Chairman Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Jekeira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@Jekeira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jekeira)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/114 "2001-07-02T03:26:28Z")
It’s very odd, and disappointing, and somewhat worrisome. I agree to allowing Javamaven an extension. Tornado Siren, in the meantime, good work. ---
**Author:** ![Tornado\_Siren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@Tornado\_Siren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tornado_Siren)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/115 "2001-07-02T03:28:46Z")
Man… talk about ghost-town. The lack of any posts is just kind of freaky. This the new OmegaMan thread? I have no problem with the extension. Winning by default is not exactly satisfying (ask G.W. Bush), but… hey… since the alternative is probably another ignominious loss, who am I to quibble? ---
**Author:** ![JavaMaven1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@JavaMaven1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JavaMaven1)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/116 "2001-07-02T04:32:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fenris \* > \*\*This has never happened in Kitchen Stadium before. Since **Javamaven1** has been such a good and consistent poster, and since we’ve heard nothing from her, I’m inclined to assume that there’s turmoil or just extreme busyness in her personal or professional life. > \*\* **Chairman Fenris** , you are right on all accounts. Turmoil _and_ business in all aspects of my life have plagued my week. I’m alive and breathing, but I’m wondering if that’s really a good thing at the moment. 🙂 I ask if at all possible, for an extention until Tuesday evening, if it is acceptable to all, particularly my challenger, for I know how much work goes into preparing and writing a menu. ---
**Author:** ![Tornado\_Siren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@Tornado\_Siren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tornado_Siren)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/117 "2001-07-02T04:44:22Z")
Tuesday will be fine. But man…I dont know how that omelette is gonna be after another 2 days in the fridge. They just do NOT keep well. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/118 "2001-07-02T11:16:00Z")
Glad to see you’re ok **Javamaven1**. Tuesday, 8:00 PM will be fine, however, I am going to do something unprecedented. **Tornado Siren** , you may reconfigure your menu, descriptions, or recipes, if you desire to, in the intervening time. As you said, your omlette has been sitting here for several days. There are both advantages and drawbacks to this offer, but the choice is yours. Chairman Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/119 "2001-07-02T23:19:03Z")
We were all set to respond to Tornado’s recipes, but now will defer judgment until tommorrow. We look forward to being smarmy again! ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2001, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921/120 "2001-07-03T13:05:10Z")
:;turns on the lights:: Hey, where is everybody??? ::sniff sniff:: I don’t smell any cooking going on in here, did I enter the wrong studio? ::looks around, sees empty beer bottles, and odd assortment of what **must** be exotic herbs - wonder why they look charred?:: ::steps over slumbering judges. sees **Fenris sans’** snazzy white jacket lying uncermoniously in a heap, with odd splotches of sauces:: Hmmmmm. Well, no time like the present. ::Whistles loudly:: “Come on down” ::UCLA marching band enters the studio, along with a parade of dancing bears, clowns, acrobats and assorted women in tutus and tights. at least we **think** they are women:: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-chef-part-quattro/69921.md?page=7)