# Iron Man 3 Trailer: boner status elevated

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 6, 2013, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230 "2013-03-06T22:03:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/21 "2013-03-07T21:36:15Z")

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Well, they’re going to have to do some sort of handwaving about that - I mean, I think it’s fun that you can build a thing where Tony Stark fights relatively believable bad guys in his own movies and then space aliens in the Avengers, but every ten year old boy in the world is going to be all “Did he forget Captain America’s phone number or what?”

I’m going to have to fight tooth and nail with the husband over this one - I refuse to see it in 3D and I think we’ll be there opening night.

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**Author:** ![Bakhesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Bakhesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bakhesh)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/22 "2013-03-07T22:39:56Z")

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War Machine is basically a guy a guy who flies and carries a bunch of machine guns and missile launchers. Nick Fury already had an aircraft carrier full of guys like that. A better question is, why didn’t he send in a few F-35’s or Apaches during the invasion of New York?

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/23 "2013-03-08T03:43:33Z")

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> [@Bakhesh](#):
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> War Machine is basically a guy a guy who flies and carries a bunch of machine guns and missile launchers. Nick Fury already had an aircraft carrier full of guys like that. A better question is, why didn’t he send in a few F-35’s or Apaches during the invasion of New York?

I’m trying to make sense of this. A little help please?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/24 "2013-03-08T05:20:24Z")

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“War Machine” is Rhody’s alter-ego when he’s wearing his armor (which he got from Stark, then pimped out with more-or-less-conventional weaponry). He’s cool and all, but since most of his weaponry is conventional, not Stark toys, he really doesn’t bring much to a fight that you couldn’t instead get from an F-35.

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**Author:** ![Bakhesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Bakhesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bakhesh)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/25 "2013-03-08T09:32:13Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> I’m trying to make sense of this. A little help please?

Yeah, that was what I was trying to say (not very well). Basically, War Machine is just a weapons platform, so to a military guy like Fury, he might not see him as that special. Stark was initially going to be employed just as a consultant, because even without his armour he is still a " Genius Billionaire Playboy Philanthropist".

On the other hand, we know Fury had F35’s prepped and ready, because the council launched two with nukes on board. Why weren’t they already in the fight? He had at least one more Quinjet too (and a spare pilot), and they seemed pretty adept at shooting down Chitauri when Hawkeye was flying

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/26 "2013-03-08T14:34:36Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Ben Kingsley: 1 Oscar win (and 3 more nominations), 1 Golden Globe win (and 5 more nominations), 4 Emmy nominations, plus a Grammy

And he’s been in a Uwe Boll movie!

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/27 "2013-03-08T14:37:33Z")

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I’m pretty sure there’s a tie-in comic that says Rhodes was out fighting some battle in Asia during the attack. Which is really the explanation for all comic book universes. You just have to assume that everyone is busy with their own thing.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/28 "2013-03-08T14:59:59Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> I’m pretty sure there’s a tie-in comic that says Rhodes was out fighting some battle in Asia during the attack. Which is really the explanation for all comic book universes. You just have to assume that everyone is busy with their own thing.

Euphemism for Ben Grimm jerking off?

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/29 "2013-03-08T15:02:20Z")

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This happens in comics all the time. Iron Man is out fighting his enemy in his own comic, then he shows up in the Avengers and fights an Avengers enemy. He doesn’t spend the whole time in his own comic standing around and saying “Where’s Captain America?” Yeah, they might make a passing comment about where others are or what happened over New York, but I don’t think they need to spend a whole lot of the movie explaining where the rest of the Avengers are or anything.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/30 "2013-03-08T15:49:48Z")

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They make reference to the group in the trailer. I’ll bet they offer at least a passing reason for everybody being busy.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/31 "2013-03-08T16:08:02Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> I’m pretty sure there’s a tie-in comic that says Rhodes was out fighting some battle in Asia during the attack. Which is really the explanation for all comic book universes. You just have to assume that everyone is busy with their own thing.

Not even really necessary for him to have been busy. He just might not have been able to get there is time. Sure, those suits are fast, but they’re not fast enough to cover half the planet in the brief time allowed for the battle.

War Machine may not have lasers and mini-missiles, but he packs an immense punch; it’s just mostly conventional munitions. note that as far as volume of fire he way outclasses Tony, and he’s probably much better at things like tactics and fire control (Stark has a bit of a “let the machine do the shooting problem” thinking).

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/32 "2013-03-08T16:11:05Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> They make reference to the group in the trailer. I’ll bet they offer at least a passing reason for everybody being busy.

I musta missed them -

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/33 "2013-03-08T16:23:01Z")

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Doesn’t he say right at the start of the second trailer that he “misses the group?” I can’t access it from work right now, but I recall something like that when I watched it.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/34 "2013-03-08T16:23:10Z")

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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> Euphemism for Ben Grimm jerking off?

I thought that was “getting your rocks off”? 😉

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/35 "2013-03-08T16:39:11Z")

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> [@Zsofia](#):
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> Well, they’re going to have to do some sort of handwaving about that - I mean, I think it’s fun that you can build a thing where Tony Stark fights relatively believable bad guys in his own movies and then space aliens in the Avengers, but every ten year old boy in the world is going to be all “Did he forget Captain America’s phone number or what?”
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> I’m going to have to fight tooth and nail with the husband over this one - I refuse to see it in 3D and I think we’ll be there opening night.

When I was reading comics growing up, you just kind of accepted that there would be team ups and solo adventures. Yeah, it didn’t make a lot of sense–when there’s a global threat, shouldn’t every superhero show up, as well as SHIELD and NATO, not just the hero(s) of the comic–but that was the nature of the medium. Cap isn’t going to show because it’s an Iron Man [del]comic[/del] movie. War Machine wasn’t in the Avengers because he is an Iron Man character.

Also, let me add +1 to the “Hell yeah” chorus. Shane Black has always made good movies, though not enough of them. I’m really excited to see what he does with a superhero flick.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/36 "2013-03-08T16:54:28Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Doesn’t he say right at the start of the second trailer that he “misses the group?” I can’t access it from work right now, but I recall something like that when I watched it.

I didn’t take that as anything other than him battling himself, after a life long ‘solo act’ - not a specific comment as to the availability/whereabouts of said group.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/37 "2013-03-08T16:58:05Z")

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That’s one of the things I dug about the Joss Whedon run of _Astonishing X-Men_: the last arc (“Unstoppable”) had damn near everybody in it. The Earth was threatened, so Spidey, Fantastic 4, Doctor Strange, Avengers, _everybody_ showed up to deal with the threat.

Not that it helped any. Still fell to a few X-Men to save the day and make things right. Well, one, really.

Fucking Joss.

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/38 "2013-03-08T17:39:04Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> I still can’t believe we didn’t get to see – or even hear mention of – Don Cheadle suiting up during _The Avengers_; hope there’ll at least be a throwaway line in IM3 about how he was bodyguarding the President at the time, or something, anything.

I agree with this point too, mostly because they had a line about giving Jane Foster a job that would keep her more or less out of harm’s way. If they could put that in, they could put in JARVIS (should that be in all caps?) saying he’s trying to reach War Machine, but can’t get through or something.

Actually, it would have been cool if War Machine had caught Iron Man in _The Avengers_ at the end.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/39 "2013-03-09T06:40:23Z")

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Well, at the end of The Avengers, we are explicitly shown everyone going their separate ways. Fury has a line about them coming back together when they are really needed.

It’s obvious in the movie version that they are not a full time team that live in a tower together. Teaming up is going to be the exception and not the rule.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2013, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/iron-man-3-trailer-boner-status-elevated/652230/40 "2013-03-09T19:21:20Z")

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Yeah, but I haven’t seen my college roommate in years but if a supervillain blew her house up and stole her husband and she called me I’d, like, spot her a twenty.

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