# Irrational hate thread: Cars and their owners **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 30, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364 "2010-03-30T19:04:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/21 "2010-03-30T21:52:40Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I don’t think my hatred for people who drive loud motorcycles is irrational at all. I think it’s perfectly logical - they go out of their way to make the world a worse place, and I dislike them for it. This is mine, too. Motorcycles (and trucks) with loud pipes. If you are going out of your way to make me hear your vehicle when it goes by my house, you are a jerk. ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/22 "2010-03-30T22:00:57Z")
Around these parts, Corvette fans tend to be former guidos in their 50s and 60s. Really, the only people I see or hear who lust after Corvettes now are those solidly in their late middle age years or older. (Yes, this being the Dope, you’re 25 and love Corvettes, yadda yadda yadda, the exception is the norm, whatever.) There’s a big generation gap between Corvette and sport coupe fans, muscle car fans, and river fans. I’ve pinned 1978 as the birth year between those those who lust after GTOs and those who prefer WRXs. I’m not so sure of the Corvette/muscle car dividing line; maybe in the 1950-1955 birth year range? When I lived in Austin, it was the Ford F-250 or F-350 with a crew cab and/or duallys, with extra hate if there’s a job box in the bed. They were always spotless. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/23 "2010-03-30T22:29:32Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > I generally have a not wholly rational disdain for very large and very small vehicles. I drive a [1987 Toyota MR2](http://www.vegasmr2.com/mr2ocotm/Winners/Jan2006/zanny/zanny03.jpg). Blow me. 😃 > [@Jackmannii](#): > > I don’t like BMWs because their owners tend to be prissy exponents of the pseudo-upper class. And BMW’s front grilles look like they sport Hitler mustaches. Ok…you’re my hero again. I’d forgotten the Beemer People. BMW’s are like hemorrhoids, sooner or later every asshole gets 'em. ---
**Author:** ![JoelUpchurch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f05b48/32.png) [@JoelUpchurch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoelUpchurch)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/24 "2010-03-30T22:57:54Z")
I generally assume that anyone that owns a Humvee is a jerk, except actual military personnel driving one on duty. For ugliness, I would have to say the Pontiac Aztec represents the pinnacle of design by committee ugly. The original Scion Xb has an in your face, I’m not here to be pretty, ugliness that I can respect. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/25 "2010-03-30T23:04:26Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > And while Humvees don’t consume all that much more gas than certain giant/luxury cars, I still bristle when I see them. You mean Hummers. Humvees are the military-grade (real) offroad vehicles that are designed for actual, useful applications. Hummers are the gaudy, obnoxious commercial knockoff versions driven by humongous douches who think they’re cool or something. Big difference. And I hate Hummers too. Any oversized vehicle (especially if its chassis has been raised up above factory specs, you view-blocking motherfucker) or obnoxiously loud vehicle should be a legal target for grenade / missile fire. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/26 "2010-03-31T00:01:06Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > \ > Ok…you’re my hero again. I’d forgotten the Beemer People. BMW’s are like hemorrhoids, sooner or later every asshole gets 'em. Hee hee. My confession - I love the way BMWs look. Jim hates them, though; I think it’s for the asshole reason. ETA: The guys driving the huge, oversized, jacked-up vehicles have my sympathy - their mommies obviously didn’t love them enough and they have small penises. Same for guys driving loud motorcycles and trucks. ---
**Author:** ![MC\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c77e96/32.png) [@MC\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MC_E)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/27 "2010-03-31T00:15:59Z")
I’m not sure if you have to already be an asshole to buy a full-size Dodge Ram, or if driving one turns you into an asshole. Either way… Oh, and “Truck-Nuts”. Anyone with those hanging off of their bumper should be forced to tea-bag them live on national television. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/28 "2010-03-31T00:26:50Z")
> [@JoelUpchurch](#): > > The original Scion Xb has an in your face, I’m not here to be pretty, ugliness that I can respect. Well, I’ll agree that it’s not here to be pretty. What _IS_ it here for? To be ugly (working, btw)? To make the PT Cruiser look like it’s not ugly (not working)? ---
**Author:** ![JoelUpchurch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f05b48/32.png) [@JoelUpchurch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoelUpchurch)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/29 "2010-03-31T00:49:41Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Well, I’ll agree that it’s not here to be pretty. > > What _IS_ it here for? To be ugly (working, btw)? To make the PT Cruiser look like it’s not ugly (not working)? It is exactly what it looks like: a big box to haul your stuff around without using a lot of gas to do it. I’ve never ridden in one myself, but the people who have love it, since it is so roomy. It is basically a vehicle designed to get the maximum use out of every square inch of road in takes up. They screwed it up with the last restyling. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/30 "2010-03-31T02:18:46Z")
I’m pretty sure there’s little that is irrational about despising any “owner/operator” of a Hummer. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/31 "2010-03-31T02:24:20Z")
From a few years ago: [The Ford Crown Vic Hate Thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=150300&highlight=crown+victoria). I still feel exactly the same way. ---
**Author:** ![Driver8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Driver8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Driver8)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/32 "2010-03-31T03:03:04Z")
I’ve always thought of the PT Cruiser and HHR as cars that end up on rental lots most of the time because they are difficult to sell to individuals. I don’t know how true that is, but they are really nasty cars. I always end up getting them as rentals and hate how cheap the interiors feel, how poor the handling is, how deranged the design is (cup holders in really awkward positions, for example), etc. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/33 "2010-03-31T03:36:36Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > I can’t stand the Chrysler PT Cruiser. The name “Cruiser” suggests something cool, probably fast and comfortable. It’s none of that. Well, it’s cool in a naïve 1950s kind of way with its rounded angles and sorta rakish build. Which means that it’s cool if you’re 70 or 80 years old and need to be giving up your license anyway. Fast—no. The PT Cruiser is suppose to have a retro look and the turbo is zippy enough. It’s also a chick car like the VW Bug or Jetta. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/34 "2010-03-31T03:39:28Z")
> [@MC\_E](#): > > …and “Truck-Nuts”. Anyone with those hanging off of their bumper should be forced to tea-bag them live on national television. What would you say to truck nuts hanging off a motorcycle? I saw this very thing on a bike turning off Yorkville Avenue onto Yonge Street last summer. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/35 "2010-03-31T03:48:51Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I don’t think my hatred for people who drive loud motorcycles is irrational at all. I think it’s perfectly logical - they go out of their way to make the world a worse place, and I dislike them for it. Add to this any car with a stadium PA system mounted in the trunk/back seat. > [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > A car I truly hate the look of is the [Nissan Cube.](http://thezaz.nationallampoon.com/files/2009/06/cube_car.jpg) What a metal (plastic?) abortion! I just saw one for the first time today. It looks like a cheap computer generated cartoon car that was never completed beyond the rough-sketch phase. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Doctor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/36 "2010-03-31T04:11:48Z")
Stretch Hummers…with train horns. No. Just no. Please drive that thing into the nearest river or in front of an actual freight train. Any company who rents these abominations out should automatically have their business license revoked for polluting the landscape with obnoxious vehicles filled with obnoxious people who want to drive around Hollywood Blvd going “Look at me, look at me! I’m a complete douche in a douche-mobile!” They are the only vehicles that make me wish that anti-tank missiles could be purchased at the local Army-Navy store… ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/37 "2010-03-31T04:13:45Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > From a few years ago: [The Ford Crown Vic Hate Thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=150300&highlight=crown+victoria). > > I still feel exactly the same way. They may be snowbird cars but they do everything well. They’re basically re-badged Lincolns. They ride nice, handle well, get 25+ mpg on the highway and have a ton of room for passengers and luggage. My BIL’s averaged 28 mpg on the highway and he is not light of foot. ---
**Author:** ![Perciful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b38774/32.png) [@Perciful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Perciful)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/38 "2010-03-31T04:39:43Z")
The Cube makes me laugh. It is so square but seems to be a good pizza delivery car. I don’t like Porches because there is no room to put anything, no backseat and you feel like your ass is skidding along the road. The seats are like rocks. Second most uncomfortable seat was in a Subaru wagon. Like riding on a wash board. I don’t know who designed the Aztec but when ever I see one it makes me cringe. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/39 "2010-03-31T04:42:05Z")
> [@Perciful](#): > > I don’t like Porches because there is no room to put anything, no backseat and you feel like your ass is skidding along the road. The seats are like rocks. they do tend to have a a wooden feel to them. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![kferr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@kferr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kferr)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/40 "2010-03-31T12:03:32Z")
The Porsche Cayenne. When you cock is too small for a normal Porsche only a Porsche SUV will do! Ditto any of the BMW X series above the X1. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364.md?page=3)