# Irrational hate thread: Cars and their owners

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 30, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364 "2010-03-30T19:04:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![OneChance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/74df32/32.png) [@OneChance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneChance)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/41 "2010-03-31T12:25:11Z")

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Subaru Outbacks are almost always driven by outdoorsy douchebags who don’t know how to drive. If I get behind a slow driver, they are likely in an Outback. The guy in his mid-40’s merging onto the freeway at 45MPH? In an Outback. Almost every time.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/42 "2010-03-31T12:58:42Z")

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Meh. To me they are all. just. transportation. I’ve never “loved” or “hated” vehicles, although I’ve purchased ones that more closely meet my needs.

Except for pedovans, of course. Vile.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/43 "2010-03-31T13:18:33Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Except for pedovans, of course. Vile.

Yeah, but the good ones get 300 miles per kid !

Can’t beat those numbers.

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**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/44 "2010-03-31T13:24:53Z")

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> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
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> I can’t stand the Chrysler PT Cruiser. The name “Cruiser” suggests something cool, probably fast and comfortable. It’s none of that. Well, it’s cool in a naïve 1950s kind of way with its rounded angles and sorta rakish build. Which means that it’s cool if you’re 70 or 80 years old and need to be giving up your license anyway. Fast—no. Comfortable—no. And what is that “PT” all about? For me it associates the car with PT Barnum…There’s a sucker born every minute, and they buy this wretched car. You probably know I work in the auto claims department for an insurance company. In 10 years I have yet to speak to the owner of a PT Cruiser who had a measurable IQ. Which isn’t really a problem, lots of people are dumb but kind, and they make the world a good place. But PT people…they’re not nice. They’re mean. They’re ignorant and mean. In fact, “PT” is just a mirror of “TP” which in this case would stand for “Tea Partier.” But I guess if I got my name on the title to a PT Cruiser, I’d be pretty mean, too. And the fact that my name was there at all would be evidence of my ignorance. So I guess I secretly thank Chrysler for producing a product that appeals to, and identifies, ignorant & mean people. Too bad Ford doesn’t make them, but that’s a different gripe.
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> 1. If you’re a PT Cruiser owner and have been offended by this thread, I’m not surprised. Not in the least.
> 
> 2. Please share your own irrational, overly broad & general associations of cars and their drivers.

Not quite what you asked for, but I have an irrational hatred of auto claims department workers. You know, the ones who are ignorant, paint with wide brush strokes, and appear to sit on their brains. Especially when their broad brush covers my step-daughter, a PT Cruiser driver, who’s in law school and is most certainly far more intelligent than a claims department worker, and will probably earn more in her first year in practice than a claims adjuster ever will. 😉

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/45 "2010-03-31T14:14:14Z")

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- kicks \*\*BwanaBob \*\*in the shin \*

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**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/46 "2010-03-31T14:36:38Z")

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OK, here’s my pet dislike. It’s not that you see many of them, although it’s hardly unusual to spot one here in New York, but I hate Maybachs and the people who drive them. Is it really necessary to drive around in a car that costs more than most houses? Especially when the owners usually don’t even bother to drive them themselves, preferring to pay someone to handle such a lowly task. It’s nothing but pure ostentation. A Maybach owner is no different than a rapper with a diamond-encrusted Rolex, 40 pounds of gold around his neck, and a mouthful of jewelry.

Every time I see one I think it’s time for class warfare.

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**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/47 "2010-03-31T15:37:44Z")

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> [@BwanaBob](#):
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> Not quite what you asked for, but I have an irrational hatred of auto claims department workers. You know, the ones who are ignorant, paint with wide brush strokes, and appear to sit on their brains. Especially when their broad brush covers my step-daughter, a PT Cruiser driver, who’s in law school and is most certainly far more intelligent than a claims department worker, and will probably earn more in her first year in practice than a claims adjuster ever will. 😉

Thank you.

Joe,  
Database Adminsitrator  
Former PT Cruiser Owner  
(also makes more than a claims adjuster, while getting to frustrate almost as many people…it’s win-win)

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**Author:** ![campp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@campp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/campp)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/48 "2010-03-31T15:45:36Z")

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Anyone using those stupid bright blue headlights gets several bright flashes from me as we pass. They let a burn image in my retina for a while. They are dangerous.

Also, I’m not real wild about the nuckle-dragger idiots that have ball sacks hanging off their rear bumpers. Oh brother…

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/49 "2010-03-31T16:00:52Z")

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> [@crazyjoe](#):
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> Thank you.
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> Joe,  
> Database Adminsitrator  
> Former PT Cruiser Owner  
> (also makes more than a claims adjuster, while getting to frustrate almost as many people…it’s win-win)

So…

Somebody says " I hate herpes and think anybody who has herpes sleeps around too much"

And then, TWO people, who nobody KNEW had herpes, stand up and shout “wait a minute I HAVE herpes and I am offended!”

too funny

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**Author:** ![Jaymosch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaymosch/32/2820_2.png) [@Jaymosch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaymosch)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/50 "2010-03-31T16:02:25Z")

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> [@Saintly\_Loser](#):
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> I hate Maybachs and the people who drive them.

If someone is driving themselves in a Maybach they’re doing it wrong.

There’s not a lot of cars that I irrationally hate, but Smart Cars make me really angry when I see them. I get a very strong urge to run them off the road when I encounter them (haven’t done it yet though).

Not vehicle specific, and not really irrational I guess, but I hate any car with bumper stickers. I don’t need to know you’re: Wiccan, have an honor student, work for a Jewish carpenter, voted for Kerry, or have a permit to hunt terrorists when I am sitting behind you at a red light.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/51 "2010-03-31T16:13:32Z")

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Mustang GT’s. A very large proportion of them are driven by young male assholes whom drive like maniacs. That’s what happens when you make 300 horsepower affordable, Ford!

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**Author:** ![JoelUpchurch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f05b48/32.png) [@JoelUpchurch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoelUpchurch)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/52 "2010-03-31T17:11:03Z")

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> [@h.sapiens](#):
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> Whenever I see a Smart Car, I automatically assume the person behind the wheel is a tool. I’m not sure why, but there it is.

I looked at the Smart car, but something that looks like clowns should be getting out of it should do better than 33mpg in the city.  
I’m interested to see what the Honda Fit Hybrid is going to be like. I test drove a Fit and it is pretty nice. I’m fat and I could get in and out easier than my Malibu.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/53 "2010-03-31T17:27:35Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> So…
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> Somebody says " I hate herpes and think anybody who has herpes sleeps around too much"
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> And then, TWO people, who nobody KNEW had herpes, stand up and shout “wait a minute I HAVE herpes and I am offended!”
> 
> too funny

Well actually I believe I was pretty clear that, while I find the car offensive, the people that drive them are generally abominations of humanity. So it would be more accurate to say, “I hate herpes and think anybody with herpes is an abrasive bastard.”

And then TWO people stand up, one through Douch-ism by proxy, and start flinging poo at me for being a poor, broke-down, no-good claims guy. Basically proving my point. it’s a wonderful, wiggly world.  
(We _are_ still just having fun, right?)

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/54 "2010-03-31T17:34:12Z")

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> [@JoelUpchurch](#):
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> I looked at the Smart car, but something that looks like clowns should be getting out of it should do better than 33mpg in the city.  
> I’m interested to see what the Honda Fit Hybrid is going to be like. I test drove a Fit and it is pretty nice. I’m fat and I could get in and out easier than my Malibu.

Yeah, Fit’s are pretty nice little cars. I have a Scion Xa, and even it gets better mileage in the city than the Smart car does with the manual transmission.

I often laugh here at my business (a car wash) when I thank Smart car owners that come here for helping make my car look like a stretch limo by comparison.

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**Author:** ![Scoobysnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Scoobysnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoobysnax)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/55 "2010-03-31T18:30:33Z")

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Toyota Prius and Honda Civic drivers with single occupant HOV access stickers. I can’t wait 'till January 1 when they have to join the rest of us in the regular lanes. It sucks being stuck behind a single occupant Prius doing 65 in the carpool lane.

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**Author:** ![MN\_Maenad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@MN\_Maenad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MN_Maenad)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/56 "2010-03-31T18:45:58Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Meh. To me they are all. just. transportation. I’ve never “loved” or “hated” vehicles, although I’ve purchased ones that more closely meet my needs.

That’s why the people that drive the offending cars are so annoying - they attach so much importance to them!

My Prius does not mean I think I’m better than you, though my [reusable shopping bag](http://www.mcphee.com/shop/products/Better-Than-You-Shopping-Bag.html) does. 😃

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**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/57 "2010-03-31T19:17:15Z")

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Any modern restyling of 70s american musclecars. Double-hate points awarded to any that also think “hemi-” is relevant to anything outside of the sub-supplier that gets paid to design fake-chrome branding emblems.

If you were a real aficionado you could pick up a used '76 Trans Am on the cheap, pour a little money into it, and have real street cred. But you can’t can you, because you tried to fix it up and the car just ran like shit. Just like it ran in '76, when it sucked then. Burt Reynolds pornstache never looked good anyway.

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**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/58 "2010-03-31T19:19:39Z")

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> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
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> Well actually I believe I was pretty clear that, while I find the car offensive, the people that drive them are generally abominations of humanity. So it would be more accurate to say, “I hate herpes and think anybody with herpes is an abrasive bastard.”
> 
> And then TWO people stand up, one through Douch-ism by proxy, and start flinging poo at me for being a poor, broke-down, no-good claims guy. Basically proving my point. it’s a wonderful, wiggly world.  
> (We _are_ still just having fun, right?)

Yeah, it’s the kind of fun that a bully has when he beats the shit out of the small kid, right? Because it’s really fun to say that everyone who drives a certain type of vehicle is of low intelligence and has no taste…especially by someone who has a penchant for broad-brush, condescending elitism.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/59 "2010-03-31T19:21:11Z")

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> [@crazyjoe](#):
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> Yeah, it’s the kind of fun that a bully has when he beats the shit out of the small kid, right? Because it’s really fun to say that everyone who drives a certain type of vehicle is of low intelligence and has no taste…especially by someone who has a penchant for broad-brush, condescending elitism.

Hmmmm…wonder whats parked in crazy joe’s driveway?

PS, I think you (now three) guys need to reREAD the OP a bit more carefully. I think there are some big and fancy words in there that might be a bit important.

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**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/60 "2010-03-31T19:30:21Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Hmmmm…wonder whats parked in crazy joe’s driveway?
> 
> PS, I think you (now three) guys need to reREAD the OP a bit more carefully. I think there are some big and fancy words in there that might be a bit important.

To me, there is a friggin’ huge difference between saying why you hate a specific type of car and saying that _anyone who buys that car_ is (insert irrational hatred here).

The second makes you look douchebaggy, even if it’s stated as “irrational hatred”.

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