# Irrational hate thread: Cars and their owners

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 30, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364 "2010-03-30T19:04:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/61 "2010-03-31T19:36:22Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Hmmmm…wonder whats parked in crazy joe’s driveway?
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> PS, I think you (now three) guys need to reREAD the OP a bit more carefully. I think there are some big and fancy words in there that might be a bit important.

Nothing is parked in my driveway. I park in the garage.

I guess you didn’t notice that I’m the guy from earlier who claimed to be a former PT Cruiser owner. I love how the OP thinks that by ending with a prediction that PT Cruiser owners will be offended, that it somehow absolves him of blame for writing an ignorant and offensive OP. And certainly YOU weren’t trying to offend anyone by comparing us to folks with HSV, either, I am sure.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/62 "2010-03-31T19:37:47Z")

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Don’t bother, **billfish**. Either someone has a sense of humor or they…_must resist_…don’t.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/63 "2010-03-31T19:41:37Z")

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> [@crazyjoe](#):
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> Nothing is parked in my driveway. I park in the garage.

Burn!

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**Author:** ![Carl\_Corey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Carl\_Corey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carl_Corey)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/64 "2010-03-31T20:37:16Z")

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Well, this is definitely turning into an irrational hate thread. . . Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/65 "2010-03-31T21:22:03Z")

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**Inigo Montoya** , **billfish678** , and **crazyjoe** : please cool it and confine your hatred to the cars. If you want to mix it up, take it to the Pit.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/66 "2010-03-31T21:27:37Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> **Inigo Montoya** , **billfish678** , and **crazyjoe** : please cool it and confine your hatred to the cars. If you want to mix it up, take it to the Pit.

You’re just salty because you too, own a PT Cruiser.

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**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/67 "2010-03-31T21:44:42Z")

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To get back on track about cars you hate, here is my car.

No, I do not, and never have had, a mullet.

[![](https://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u90/ghardester/IMG_0848.jpg) ](https://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u90/ghardester/IMG_0848.jpg)

😛

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/68 "2010-03-31T21:45:55Z")

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> [@ghardester](#):
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> To get back on track about cars you hate, here is my car.
> 
> No, I do not and never have had, a mullet.
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> [http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u90/ghardester/IMG\_0848.jpg](http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u90/ghardester/IMG_0848.jpg)
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> 😛

I’m jealous…I really like those cars. They look so much cooler than Camaros from the same era.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/69 "2010-03-31T21:47:03Z")

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**Marley** , read the OP. It was never really about the cars. It was a hyperbolic venting based on my very real experience with the owners of many PT Cruisers. And say what you like about broad-brushes and irrational, sweeping generalizations–This thread was all about saying, “Man those cars are ugly, and in my experience the people that drive them suffer from marked and outwardly focused cognitive defecits. Which observation I KNOW to be irrational and overly broad but I’m going to have a laugh at myself.” But, regrettably, someone got their panties in a bunch and missed the point. Whatevs.

FTR, I don’t want to “mix it up” I want to laugh at some more steroetypes that are so outrageous even those who hold them know them to be unjustifiable. But alas, now that it’s spelled out, the magic is gone. Close it then.  
fuggin PT Cruiser owners hadda show up and spoil the fun…

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/70 "2010-03-31T21:52:57Z")

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> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
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> **Marley** , read the OP. It was never really about the cars. It was a hyperbolic venting based on my very real experience with the owners of many PT Cruisers. And say what you like about broad-brushes and irrational, sweeping generalizations–This thread was all about saying, “Man those cars are ugly, and in my experience the people that drive them suffer from marked and outwardly focused cognitive defecits. Which observation I KNOW to be irrational and overly broad but I’m going to have a laugh at myself.” But, regrettably, someone got their panties in a bunch and missed the point. Whatevs.

I get it. My point is that you can take all the potshots you want at people who don’t post here, but the three of you were getting close to insulting each other, which isn’t allowed.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/71 "2010-03-31T22:11:15Z")

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Noted.

And I wasn’t talking about your panties, in case that wasn’t clear.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/72 "2010-03-31T22:23:28Z")

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Yes, I know. Incidentally I don’t have a car, so I have no dog in this fight. 😉

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/73 "2010-03-31T23:15:10Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Mustang GT’s. A very large proportion of them are driven by young male assholes whom drive like maniacs. That’s what happens when you make 300 horsepower affordable, Ford!

That would be their [2011 economy model V6](http://autos.aol.com/article/2011-ford-mustang/) that gets 30 mph on the highway. 😉

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**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/74 "2010-04-01T16:01:57Z")

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> [@OneChance](#):
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> If I get behind a slow driver, they are likely in an Outback. The guy in his mid-40’s merging onto the freeway at 45MPH? In an Outback. Almost every time.

Or a Prius, in my experience.

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**Author:** ![may\_be\_ignorant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c5a1d2/32.png) [@may\_be\_ignorant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/may_be_ignorant)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/75 "2010-04-01T16:08:48Z")

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> [@h.sapiens](#):
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> Whenever I see a Smart Car, I automatically assume the person behind the wheel is a tool. I’m not sure why, but there it is.

Wierd. I picture it as a middle aged man with a receding hairline, or mostly-bald-except-the-sides hair… With glasses, he must have glasses., and gray hair.

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/76 "2010-04-01T16:12:42Z")

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Roadster convertibles.  
Does anyone drive these things besides balding 60 year-old+ white guys?

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**Author:** ![Ichbin\_Dubist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@Ichbin\_Dubist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichbin_Dubist)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/77 "2010-04-01T17:17:32Z")

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In the mid-80s I worked at a service station on the New Jersey Turnpike. (Joyce Kilmer, if you must know.) A lot of lore relating to cars and their owners was passed around by the bored pump jockeys. The only one that I retained was the one that seemed truest: that people who drove personal vehicles with diesel engines tended towards jerkishness, and people who drove diesel cars (as opposed to pickups) were almost always rude. The only diesel cars I can recall pumping were various Mercedes (and maybe BMW?) and this one big-ass type of Oldsmobile. Which seems like it would be 2 different groups of people.

Still, when I see a diesel car, I think, “Probably a jerk.”

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**Author:** ![Runestar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@Runestar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Runestar)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/78 "2010-04-01T19:55:38Z")

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> [@Hampshire](#):
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> Roadster convertibles.  
> Does anyone drive these things besides balding 60 year-old+ white guys?

Yep! A 48-year-old non-balding white guy in my case. 😃

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**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/79 "2010-04-02T05:41:46Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Mustang GT’s. A very large proportion of them are driven by young male assholes whom drive like maniacs. That’s what happens when you make 300 horsepower affordable, Ford!

Young… thanks, if you consider 48 young.

Male… pretty sure on that point

Asshole… I’ve been called worse

Drives like a maniac… I’m more often told I drive like a Grandpa (but if the conditions are right… yes)

> [@](#):
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> Roadster convertibles.  
> Does anyone drive these things besides balding 60 year-old+ white guys?

Not quite a roadster, but a ragtop… another 48 year old white guy with a very full head of hair.

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**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irrational-hate-thread-cars-and-their-owners/534364/80 "2010-04-02T05:48:01Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> That would be their [2011 economy model V6](http://autos.aol.com/article/2011-ford-mustang/) that gets 30 mph on the highway. 😉

Yeah… way to twist that knife in us a bit. Those of us who have the older models had to pay extra for the V8 to get that horsepower. Now it is considered standard on the basic model.

But I’m glad mine isn’t restricted to only 30 Miles per Hour… the restrictor on mine is set at 150. 😛

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