# "IRS-Gate" - JUMP ON IT, DOPERS!

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [May 13, 2013, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230 "2013-05-13T14:22:13Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/21 "2013-05-13T15:11:37Z")

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> [@Habakkuk3](#):
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> I champion a Libertarian view of APOSTROPHES and HYPHENS
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> There was an old Neil Young song that said
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> “even Richard Nixon has got soul”
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> I am waitin fer Neil to write one about Obama
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> ennyway, apparently Obama-philes doan givva shet  
> bout IRS being used in this manner
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> some people DO givva shet
> 
> member - ya din win by that much

Thank _you_ for not supporting Obama.

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### Author: ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/22 "2013-05-13T15:17:57Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Tax collecting agency targets anti-taxation groups. I’m shocked.

I can’t really add anything to this, so I’ll just quote it for emphasis. This is just yet another tempest in a Tea cup. Scrutinizing anti-tax groups a bit more closely is just being smart.

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### Author: ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/23 "2013-05-13T15:18:09Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Thank _you_ for not supporting Obama.

I thought it was O’Bama?

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/24 "2013-05-13T15:23:46Z")

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Does anyone else ‘hear’ the thread title in James Brown’s voice? The OP is an illiterate numbskull, but if “Jump on it, Dopers!” becomes a thing, maybe this will have been worth it.

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### Author: ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/25 "2013-05-13T15:26:03Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> I thought it was O’Bama?

So _that_ is what they’re actually hiding; a birth-certificate from Dummyfries, county Mayo, Eire.

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### Author: ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/26 "2013-05-13T15:32:24Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Does anyone else ‘hear’ the thread title in James Brown’s voice? The OP is an illiterate numbskull, but if “Jump on it, Dopers!” becomes a thing, maybe this will have been worth it.

I’m hearing it in the voice of Wonder Mike.

[QUOTE=The Sugar Hill Gang]  
Iran-Contra, jump on it, jump on it, jump on it  
Vince Foster, jump on it, jump on it, jump on it  
IRS-gate, jump on it, jump on it, jump on it  
Apache, jump on it, jump on it  
[/QUOTE]

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### Author: ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/27 "2013-05-13T15:32:48Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Does anyone else ‘hear’ the thread title in James Brown’s voice? The OP is an illiterate numbskull, but if “Jump on it, Dopers!” becomes a thing, maybe this will have been worth it.

“Jump on it, Dopers” is far too clear and concise to have been sung by James Brown.

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### Author: ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/28 "2013-05-13T15:41:25Z")

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> [@Habakkuk3](#):
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> I champion a Libertarian view of APOSTROPHES and HYPHENS
> 
> There was an old Neil Young song that said
> 
> “even Richard Nixon has got soul”
> 
> I am waitin fer Neil to write one about Obama
> 
> ennyway, apparently Obama-philes doan givva shet  
> bout IRS being used in this manner
> 
> some people DO givva shet
> 
> member - ya din win by that much

It will be a good day when you crawl back under the slimy rock from which you emerged. For now, I plan to boycott any future threads of yours. Bye-bye, dipshit.

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### Author: ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/29 "2013-05-13T15:43:24Z")

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> [@Eutychus](#):
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> And the bottom line is that, from what I’ve read, none of them were actually denied tax exempt status.

Ya, well… well… they THOUGHT about it, so we should make a stink about it!

The IRS should not ever consider denying tax exempt status to organizations whose avowed purpose is to not ever pay any taxes.

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### Author: ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/30 "2013-05-13T15:53:08Z")

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Kind of a weak pitting, isn’t it?

It’s just “Topic meant to be inflammatory” with a side of “please do all the legwork for me” by a mentally challenged individual.

I’d say it was more suited to GD, except there’s no debate here. It’s just “come on, dopers, fetch the ball…er topic, that’s a good doper”.

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### Author: ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/31 "2013-05-13T16:06:12Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> It will be a good day when you crawl back under the slimy rock from which you emerged. For now, I plan to boycott any future threads of yours. Bye-bye, dipshit.

What, you don’t like trolls that write in obnoxious “Snuffy Smith on Twitter” dialect?

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### Author: ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/32 "2013-05-13T16:18:53Z")

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> [@Habakkuk3](#):
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> I think this administration has OUT-NIXON’ED NIXON!

This must be like the fifteenth “Obama’s Watergate” I’ve heard of from the right so far. Clearly Obama is the greatest politician in American history if he’s capable of being so blatantly evil so often and yet come off scot-free over and over again.

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### Author: ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/33 "2013-05-13T16:20:53Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> Neil Young wrote a song advocating Obama for President before Obama even decided to run: [Neil Young Names Barak Obama For President In New Song... | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/05/09/neil-young-names-barak-ob_n_20662.html)

He also wrote a song for George W. Bush in 2006 called “Let’s Impeach The President”. Pretty astute guy, that Neil Young.

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### Author: ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/34 "2013-05-13T16:25:32Z")

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I’m fine with the IRS targeting the Tea Party. The TP has been shown to be a bunch of nutjobs and radical fringe extremists. They need to be looked at closer

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### Author: ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/35 "2013-05-13T16:26:26Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Ya, well… well… they THOUGHT about it, so we should make a stink about it!
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> The IRS should not ever consider denying tax exempt status to organizations whose avowed purpose is to not ever pay any taxes.

Not to mention that I bet everyone who has a problem with the IRS on this is fine with police tracking people who look Islamic.

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### Author: ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/36 "2013-05-13T16:27:11Z")

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I get that they shouldn’t have done it, no question. But I think I can see a rationale for it: we’re in a period of loosening rules on political advocacy, and the line between tax-exempt advocacy groups and non-tax-exempt political advocacy groups seems to be blurring. The Tea Party gave themselves a name that sure sounds like a political advocacy group–“party” in politics usually means political party, and political parties are not tax exempt to the best of my knowledge. So increased scrutiny on groups with Tea Party in their names makes sense to me.

Groups with “Patriot” in their name? I’d want to know how they thought that was a good idea.

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### Author: ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/37 "2013-05-13T16:29:45Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Ya, well… well… they THOUGHT about it, so we should make a stink about it!

Making a stink about it is the right thing to do. This was pretty stupid and most likely against the law. But it’s more stupid than evil.

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### Author: ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/38 "2013-05-13T16:30:51Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Please don’t be a moron.

Waaaaaaaaay too late for that.

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### Author: ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/39 "2013-05-13T16:36:31Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Not to mention that I bet everyone who has a problem with the IRS on this is fine with police tracking people who look Islamic.

> [@](#):
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> “If in fact IRS personnel engaged in the kind of practices that have been reported on and were intentionally targeting conservative groups, then that’s outrageous and there’s no place for it – and they have to be held fully accountable,” President Barack Obama said Monday.

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=16285321](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=16285321)

Since when has President Obama been in favor of racial/religious profiling?

eta: I’d also like to mention that I expect this milkshake to bring a lot of boys to the yard.

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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/40 "2013-05-13T16:40:53Z")

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Remember Dick Armey and the Tea Party Express? Wasn’t it amazing how this grassroots organization just sprang up out of nowhere, yet when they held rallies, all the professional gear, all the microphones and loudspeakers and crew, and stage managers, just sprang up out of thin air? Kind of like Occupy but with a buttload of money and professional cynics. Who’s kidding who, here?

I may be the only one who remembers how the Tea Party Express announced that the Tea Party was solidly behind Verizon/Comcast during their difficulties. Who the _fuck_ loves the cable company? Tell me, who?

Its all about the bogus rules for political organizations which are not political organizations, no, really, we’re not. So we don’t have to tell anybody where the money comes from, because hey! It all comes from individual patriotic Americans who are fed up with the way the gummint…

Bullshit on a cracker. If Karl Roves Crossroads super pac isn’t a political organization, and therefore is exempt from revealing sources of income, then I am the Queen of Romania.

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