# "IRS-Gate" - JUMP ON IT, DOPERS!

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [May 13, 2013, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230 "2013-05-13T14:22:13Z")
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### Author: ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/41 "2013-05-13T16:52:32Z")

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> [@Habakkuk3](#):
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> I think this administration has OUT-NIXON’ED NIXON!
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> IRS Targeting political adversaries of the current administration!
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> unbelieveable

I’m wondiering you seem to believe that your only reasonable contribution to this board is to be as obnoxious as possible. These are real people here; why don’t you treat them as such?

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### Author: ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/42 "2013-05-13T17:00:31Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Groups with “Patriot” in their name? I’d want to know how they thought that was a good idea.

I don’t know- I doubt there is a single group with “Patriot” in the name that isn’t a bunch of right wing whackadoodles.

Sure looks like the Pubbies are trying to ski down Mount Molehill again. An independent organization headed by a Bush appointee decides that groups that hate taxes should get special scrutiny when trying to get tax-exempt status. The Bush appointee is already gone, and of course they can’t take action on the one that Obama nomintated to replace him because, well you just don’t take action on Obama nominees. But somehow this is Great Obama Scandal Number 673. Wake me up when they find mud that actually sticks to the wall.

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### Author: ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/43 "2013-05-13T17:05:31Z")

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What happened to Habakkuk’s one and two?

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### Author: ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I don’t know- I doubt there is a single group with “Patriot” in the name that isn’t a bunch of right wing whackadoodles.

I do remember, when I worked for a 501(c)(3) organization, reading the IRS documents with the following section:

> [@IRS Documentation for 501(c)(3) accreditation](#):
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> 1. No organization shall be eligible for 501(c)(3) classification if any of the following conditions are met:  
> a) The organization’s 501(c)(3) accreditation has been revoked within the previous five years; or  
> b) The organization engages in direct endorsement of any political candidate; or  
> c) The organization is a bunch of right wing whackadoodles.

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### Author: ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/45 "2013-05-13T17:07:27Z")

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Nitpicking joke: most Tea Party groups are 501(c)(4)s.

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> What happened to Habakkuk’s one and two?

Maybe they [melted](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Habakkuk).

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### Author: ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/46 "2013-05-13T17:13:32Z")

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> [@mlees](#):
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> What happened to Habakkuk’s one and two?

Investigated by the IRS?

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### Author: ![Habakkuk3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9a140/32.png) [@Habakkuk3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habakkuk3)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/47 "2013-05-13T17:19:13Z")

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were amply covered by the Qumran Community’s “Commentary of Habakkuk”

which fully covered chapters 1 and 2 of Habakkuk

Chapter three - a Psalm as opposed to the PROPHETIC ORACULAR styles of 1-2

was not mentioned in any way in the commentary found in the Dead Sea Scrolls

in 1999, when I first got on the internet to argue stuff, I took the name Habakkuk3 because of that last un-commented-upon chapter

so yes - now let them pile on “shame on Habakkuk3 for bringing disgrace on Christians/Jews”

blah blah blah etc etc

if anyone doubts my scholarship, let his tongue cleave to the roof of his mouth and let his house become an dunghill

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### Author: ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/48 "2013-05-13T17:22:31Z")

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> [@Habakkuk3](#):
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> in 1999, when I first got on the internet to argue stuff, …

I’m sorry, this is abuse. Arguments are down the hall.

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### Author: ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/49 "2013-05-13T17:24:45Z")

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Aaaaand here comes the crazy meltdown.

What was the over/under on this guy, anyway?

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### Author: ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/50 "2013-05-13T17:28:04Z")

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> [@Habakkuk3](#):
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> blah blah blah etc etc

Now we’re getting somewhere.

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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/51 "2013-05-13T17:28:25Z")

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> [@](#):
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> What was the over/under on this guy, anyway?

Ten minutes.

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### Author: ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/52 "2013-05-13T17:31:32Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Nitpicking joke: most Tea Party groups are 501(c)(4)s.

Huh. They must have the same boilerplate text in both sections of the law.

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### Author: ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/53 "2013-05-13T17:38:01Z")

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> [@Habakkuk3](#):
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> were amply covered by the Qumran Community’s “Commentary of Habakkuk”
> 
> which fully covered chapters 1 and 2 of Habakkuk
> 
> Chapter three - a Psalm as opposed to the PROPHETIC ORACULAR styles of 1-2
> 
> was not mentioned in any way in the commentary found in the Dead Sea Scrolls
> 
> in 1999, when I first got on the internet to argue stuff, I took the name Habakkuk3 because of that last un-commented-upon chapter
> 
> so yes - now let them pile on “shame on Habakkuk3 for bringing disgrace on Christians/Jews”
> 
> blah blah blah etc etc
> 
> if anyone doubts my scholarship, let his tongue cleave to the roof of his mouth and let his house become an dunghill

> [@](#):
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> 3 A prayer of Habakkuk the prophet upon Shigionoth.
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> 2 O Lord, I have heard thy speech, and was afraid: O Lord, revive thy work in the midst of the years, in the midst of the years make known; in wrath remember mercy.
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> 3 God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise.
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> 4 And his brightness was as the light; he had horns coming out of his hand: and there was the hiding of his power.
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> 5 Before him went the pestilence, and burning coals went forth at his feet.
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> 6 He stood, and measured the earth: he beheld, and drove asunder the nations; and the everlasting mountains were scattered, the perpetual hills did bow: his ways are everlasting.
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> 7 I saw the tents of Cushan in affliction: and the curtains of the land of Midian did tremble.
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> 8 Was the Lord displeased against the rivers? was thine anger against the rivers? was thy wrath against the sea, that thou didst ride upon thine horses and thy chariots of salvation?
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> 9 Thy bow was made quite naked, according to the oaths of the tribes, even thy word. Selah. Thou didst cleave the earth with rivers.
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> 10 The mountains saw thee, and they trembled: the overflowing of the water passed by: the deep uttered his voice, and lifted up his hands on high.
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> 11 The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear.
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> 12 Thou didst march through the land in indignation, thou didst thresh the heathen in anger.
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> 13 Thou wentest forth for the salvation of thy people, even for salvation with thine anointed; thou woundedst the head out of the house of the wicked, by discovering the foundation unto the neck. Selah.
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> 14 Thou didst strike through with his staves the head of his villages: they came out as a whirlwind to scatter me: their rejoicing was as to devour the poor secretly.
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> 15 Thou didst walk through the sea with thine horses, through the heap of great waters.
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> 16 When I heard, my belly trembled; my lips quivered at the voice: rottenness entered into my bones, and I trembled in myself, that I might rest in the day of trouble: when he cometh up unto the people, he will invade them with his troops.
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> 17 Although the fig tree shall not blossom, neither shall fruit be in the vines; the labour of the olive shall fail, and the fields shall yield no meat; the flock shall be cut off from the fold, and there shall be no herd in the stalls:
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> 18 Yet I will rejoice in the Lord, I will joy in the God of my salvation.
> 
> 19 The Lord God is my strength, and he will make my feet like hinds’ feet, and he will make me to walk upon mine high places. To the chief singer on my stringed instruments.

What’s Hebrew for “sycophant”?

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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/54 "2013-05-13T17:42:00Z")

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Phyllis Stein

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### Author: ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)
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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> I’m fine with the IRS targeting the Tea Party. The TP has been shown to be a bunch of nutjobs and radical fringe extremists. They need to be looked at closer

I too agree that the IRS should break laws to go after people with a different opinion than mine.

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### Author: ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/56 "2013-05-13T17:49:45Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> I too agree that the IRS should break laws to go after people with a different opinion than mine.

They’re already swamped, and now you want them to investigate everyone who doesn’t think dog turds are delicious?

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### Author: ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/57 "2013-05-13T17:50:38Z")

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OK, I’m here now. Did I jump on this quickly enough?

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### Author: ![SirRay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@SirRay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirRay)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/58 "2013-05-13T18:00:09Z")

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> [@Habakkuk3](#):
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> let his tongue cleave to the roof of his mouth

Wait, how does this work anyway? I’m pretty sure my tongue isn’t directly attached to the roof of my mouth.

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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/59 "2013-05-13T18:07:08Z")

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The term “cleave” in biblical reference means “to fuck”, as in a husband shall “cleave unto his wife”. It is unclear whether or not the wife also cleaves unto, as it may take only the active tense, in that only the man can be the “cleaver”. If he is of a totally weird and strange nature, he is referred to as an “eldritch cleaver”.

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### Author: ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/irs-gate-jump-on-it-dopers/658230/60 "2013-05-13T18:22:30Z")

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IRS gate is pretty awful in my book, but I don’t think it really had much to do with the administration. Regardless, not good.

As far as being comparable to Watergate, I don’t think it is close to comparable. I don’t even think it rises to the level of the previous administration [purging the US attorney’s office of prosecutors for not going after Democrats and only giving jobs to conservatives that were willing to harass them](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy).

I could list other government scandals that I think were worse, both by Democrats and Republicans, but it would not really matter as the OP is only interested in smearing Obama and stopping Hitlery from getting elected.

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