# Is a movie based on the Gor novels even feasible?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 24, 2006, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-movie-based-on-the-gor-novels-even-feasible/385402 "2006-12-24T01:51:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-movie-based-on-the-gor-novels-even-feasible/385402/21 "2006-12-26T17:43:46Z")

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**Eleanor** , are you saying that the books permanently scarred you? Because the smiley face implies that they didn’t.

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**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-movie-based-on-the-gor-novels-even-feasible/385402/22 "2006-12-26T19:57:30Z")

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[QUOTE=acsenray]  
**Eleanor** , are you saying that the books permanently scarred you? Because the smiley face implies that they didn’t.  
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I don’t remember being upset by them, but I do think they were a bad introduction to erotica. There were a couple of Playboy-published sci-fi books which should have been hidden too. These were mixed in with hundreds of normal sci-fi books, and my dad had probably forgotten about them.

Any normal girl would’ve been reading her mom’s regency romances instead, wouldn’t she? But no, I went from Heinlein’s group marriages to Blade’s Dimension X adventures and then to Gor.

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**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-movie-based-on-the-gor-novels-even-feasible/385402/23 "2006-12-26T20:30:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Eleanor of Aquitaine]  
But no, I went from Heinlein’s group marriages…  
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I’ll never forget coming up to my mom with “To Sail Beyond the Sunset” in hand. I had to convince her a friend had suggested it to me since I liked Heinlein…

[Cover picture](http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n4/n21603.jpg) – Not for the prude work environment though nothing naughty is showing.

– IG

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-movie-based-on-the-gor-novels-even-feasible/385402/24 "2006-12-26T20:55:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Improv Geek]  
I’ll never forget coming up to my mom with “To Sail Beyond the Sunset” in hand. I had to convince her a friend had suggested it to me since I liked Heinlein…  
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Did your Mom ever find out about the book’s pervasive incest theme, etc.?

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**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-movie-based-on-the-gor-novels-even-feasible/385402/25 "2006-12-26T20:56:50Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
Did your Mom ever find out about the book’s pervasive incest theme, etc.?  
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She never mentioned it to me if she did.

– IG

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-movie-based-on-the-gor-novels-even-feasible/385402/26 "2006-12-26T21:44:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Priceguy]  
I hope I’m misreading you here, but are you in fact saying that you agree that nonconsensual sex and bondage are the way to a girl’s heart?  
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You’re not misreading me. I miswrote me. What I meant to say was

I buy into **the mainstream view** on points one and two. In other words, that nonconsensual slavery is not a good thing, and that it is not the way to a girl’s heart.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-movie-based-on-the-gor-novels-even-feasible/385402/27 "2006-12-26T21:48:19Z")

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And while I’m making corrections to my post, delete the word “happily” from the following sentence:

> [@](#):
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> Have it be the story of an Earth girl happily kidnapped and transported to Gor

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-movie-based-on-the-gor-novels-even-feasible/385402/28 "2006-12-26T23:08:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Eleanor of Aquitaine]  
I just came in here to say that if any of you folks have young daughters in the house that are voracious readers, please hide your Gor books better than my father did. They’re really not something a 12-yr-old should find tucked away behind the Asimov paperbacks. 🙂  
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**elfbabe**? When did you change your username?

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2006, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-movie-based-on-the-gor-novels-even-feasible/385402/29 "2006-12-27T00:12:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Evil Captor]  
Hell, I’m the biggest fan of the Gor novels on this board that I know of,  
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What am I, chopped vulo liver? :dubious:

Re the rest of your post, it more or less boils down to “Yes, you could make a Gor film if you took pretty much every aspect of the author’s take on the place out of it”. I agree, but why bother? You wouldn’t get the Gor fans in that way, and you wouldn’t get the Gor haters in that way. Better just to run with “Evil Sex-Slavery Planet part I thru XXVI” and have done with it.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2006, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-movie-based-on-the-gor-novels-even-feasible/385402/30 "2006-12-27T01:00:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Malacandra]  
Re the rest of your post, it more or less boils down to “Yes, you could make a Gor film if you took pretty much every aspect of the author’s take on the place out of it”. I agree, but why bother? You wouldn’t get the Gor fans in that way, and you wouldn’t get the Gor haters in that way. Better just to run with “Evil Sex-Slavery Planet part I thru XXVI” and have done with it.  
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Direct to video.

Must be over 18 to enter.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2006, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-movie-based-on-the-gor-novels-even-feasible/385402/31 "2006-12-27T01:20:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Malacandra]  
What am I, chopped vulo liver? :dubious:

Re the rest of your post, it more or less boils down to “Yes, you could make a Gor film if you took pretty much every aspect of the author’s take on the place out of it”. I agree, but why bother? You wouldn’t get the Gor fans in that way, and you wouldn’t get the Gor haters in that way. Better just to run with “Evil Sex-Slavery Planet part I thru XXVI” and have done with it.  
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OK, I’m the second biggest fan of the Gor novels that I know of on this board … or maybe just one of the top ten fans … it there are ten fans of the Gor novels on this board … who are willing to admit they are … 😃

And I think the option I labelled the “obvious” one would permit a presentation of Gor as written by Norman. You could have the protagonists not liking or understanding Gor, but feeling ambivalent abut the Goreans because of the whole honor thing and the obviously sincere feelings of the Gorean slavegirls about loving their slavilicious lifestyles. It would be Gor, just seen from the outside rather than by a sympathetic believer in Gorean ideas.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2006, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-movie-based-on-the-gor-novels-even-feasible/385402/32 "2006-12-27T01:22:37Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
Direct to video.

Must be over 18 to enter.  
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Well, in Spain they did make a ten-part “Story of O” series that was direct to video in the U.S. Much better than the movie, too. Followed the book pretty much exactly.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2006, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-movie-based-on-the-gor-novels-even-feasible/385402/33 "2006-12-27T08:42:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Evil Captor]  
OK, I’m the second biggest fan of the Gor novels that I know of on this board … or maybe just one of the top ten fans … it there are ten fans of the Gor novels on this board … who are willing to admit they are … 😃  
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😃

> [@](#):
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> And I think the option I labelled the “obvious” one would permit a presentation of Gor as written by Norman. You could have the protagonists not liking or understanding Gor, but feeling ambivalent abut the Goreans because of the whole honor thing and the obviously sincere feelings of the Gorean slavegirls about loving their slavilicious lifestyles. It would be Gor, just seen from the outside rather than by a sympathetic believer in Gorean ideas.

That’s more or less Tarl Cabot’s view in books 1 to 5. He starts gradually to come to terms with Gorean slavery throughout these books, but he’s nowhere near to turning native. There’s no way his relationship with Elizabeth Cardwell in books 4 and 5 is anything like Master/slave from the Gorean p.o.v.

Harking back to this:

> [@](#):
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> Same thing could be done from Tarl Cabot’s POV, except presumably he wouldn’t personally be a sex slave, just a mighty warrior who disapproved of it and hence fought many other mighty warriors who did, while teaching Gorean slavegirls the delights of missionary position sex in bed with the lights out and covers up.

This is a little reminiscent of the scene in _Fighting Slave of Gor_ in which a nasty scheming slave girl is punished by being locked up for the night with Jason Marshall, and he is too much the Earth gentleman to lay a finger on her. Within the hour she is begging and screaming to be let out. 😃

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2006, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-movie-based-on-the-gor-novels-even-feasible/385402/34 "2006-12-27T15:17:28Z")

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[QUOTE=astro]  
[The Gor author says “don’t be a hater”!](http://www.locusmag.com/2001/Departments/Letters10Norman.html)  
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Does that letter end in the middle for you, too, or just for me?

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