# Is a six-pack attractive on a chick?!

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 12, 2015, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325 "2015-06-12T05:57:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![JKilez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@JKilez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKilez)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/41 "2015-06-12T21:31:31Z")

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> [@PatriotX](#):
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> I don’t find it un-attractive. It’s not a turn-off or anything.  
> But, I don’t find it particularly attractive either.
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> I find my visual attention drawn to other regions of the female anatomy.  
> ETA  
> So, I didn’t vote.

This. It is not a turn-off, but neither is it really a turn-on. It is like asking if having pierced ears is attractive.

ETA: Just to be clear–I think being in shape and having a relatively flat stomach is attractive. It is defined abs that I could take or leave.

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**Author:** ![Lee\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/aeb1de/32.png) [@Lee\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lee_Q)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/42 "2015-06-12T21:57:21Z")

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I’m a woman. Don’t find six packs attractive in women\* or\* men.

Since it seems relatively few people are genetically predisposed to have a full-on six pack without putting in significant effort, at least after a certain age, I wonder if the reason it’s not appealing is that to me on some level it suggests a certain amount of narcissism or preoccupation with the exterior beyond general good health.

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**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/43 "2015-06-12T22:09:21Z")

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Man, and no. Not attractive.

If she has a 6-pack good chance she has definition elsewhere. If I wanted to sleep with a dude I would.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/44 "2015-06-12T22:17:48Z")

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> [@Strainger](#):
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> A lean tummy looks great on a woman, but not a rippled belly–that’s a bit too far. Generally speaking, lean = good, sinewy = bad.

Exactly. I’d love to have a nice flat belly. I wouldn’t want visible abs, though. It looks okay on more men than women.

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**Author:** ![The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_wind_of_my_soul)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/45 "2015-06-12T22:48:16Z")

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All right, I popped back in because I have more to say. I have a female friend who has six-pack abs, and she is so far from vain that it’s laughable. She and I have hung out quite a few times, and every single time, she hasn’t been wearing a stitch of makeup. Her hair is never styled, just pulled back out of her face. The clothes she wears are pretty functional and androgynous … she pretty much has no sense of style. I don’t think she even tweezes her eyebrows! And she certainly doesn’t have any disdain for fat people; she was engaged to one!

She is in freakishly good shape, such good shape that when she participated in a regional competitive cross training sporting event (called the TNT Olympics), she not only beat every woman in her age group, but all the men in her age group as well. We’re talking hundreds of pushups and an under-20 minutes 5k time. She works out a ton, because she loves working out.

I just want to point out that some people with great bodies have great bodies simply because they really enjoy working out. Not all of them are vain. And while I think it’s fine to say “Yeah, we wouldn’t have enough in common,” I really don’t think it’s fair to denounce a hypothetical person as obviously vain.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/46 "2015-06-12T23:01:17Z")

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> [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](#):
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> She is in freakishly good shape, such good shape that when she participated in a regional competitive cross training sporting event (called the TNT Olympics), she not only beat every woman in her age group, but all the men in her age group as well. We’re talking hundreds of pushups and an under-20 minutes 5k time. She works out a ton, because she loves working out.
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> I just want to point out that some people with great bodies have great bodies simply because they really enjoy working out. Not all of them are vain.

Although, to be fair, there is a difference between having a six-pack appear because one engages in sports and has low body fat and having one because one is purposely aiming for that at the gym.

I have no problem admitting that I’m vain. I just don’t want to look _too_ vain.

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**Author:** ![P-man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/p-man/32/3606_2.png) [@P-man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/P-man)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/47 "2015-06-12T23:07:49Z")

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I dated a woman with a six pack visible from a short distance, and I did find it attractive. It didn’t hurt that she also had wide hips and a big butt. My wife is more rounded, and she’s been making me pitch tents for close to twenty years.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/48 "2015-06-13T02:34:22Z")

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> [@Ibanez](#):
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> If she has a 6-pack good chance she has definition elsewhere. If I wanted to sleep with a dude I would.

I have no issue at all with people not finding women with visible abs attractive. No one needs to justify or explain it. People have preferences and there’s no reason why people should agree.

But women with low body fat aren’t dudes. I think that’s pretty close to body shaming. There’s no problem saying you don’t find it attractive, but why insult the women in doing so?

I don’t think you meant in harshly or purposely insulting. But I know enough women who would be offended if you said this to their faces. Just something to think about.

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/49 "2015-06-13T08:47:14Z")

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No it’s not. I’d be thinking would she even be fertile and able to menstruate with such a low body fat percentage.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/50 "2015-06-13T18:58:02Z")

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> [@Rune](#):
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> No it’s not. I’d be thinking would she even be fertile and able to menstruate with such a low body fat percentage.

Given that sex is had more often for the sake of fun than for making babies, I’m not seeing how that’s a negative point. At such a point as a couple decides to have children, it’s not that hard to put on a few pounds. Until that point, anything which helps to prevent an accidental pregnancy is just a bonus.

And by all accounts, menstruation is unpleasant.

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/51 "2015-06-13T20:43:12Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Given that sex is had more often for the sake of fun than for making babies, I’m not seeing how that’s a negative point. At such a point as a couple decides to have children, it’s not that hard to put on a few pounds. Until that point, anything which helps to prevent an accidental pregnancy is just a bonus.
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> And by all accounts, menstruation is unpleasant.

The same can be said for breasts: an unnecessary inconvenience unless she’s feeding a baby. Most men however, find fertility cues sexy in women.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/52 "2015-06-13T22:45:33Z")

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> [@Rune](#):
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> The same can be said for breasts: an unnecessary inconvenience unless she’s feeding a baby. Most men however, find fertility cues sexy in women.

Menstruation is an unnecessary inconvenience for sex. Toddlers (around the house) are an unnecessary inconvenience for sex. Boobs are fun.

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**Author:** ![JVDaly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@JVDaly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JVDaly)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2015, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/53 "2015-06-13T23:29:58Z")

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I like toned girls as much as the next straight guy, but I’m not so keen on the full-on six-pack. A defined torso is sexy, but a _ripped_ torso is…well, kinda mannish.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/54 "2015-06-14T17:01:06Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Saying that I find women with normal bodies attractive is fishing for misogyny?! Methinks not.

I think it’s more that you took a long, thoughtful post by a woman about her health and self-image, and distilled it down to “Is this chick bangable or not?”

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/55 "2015-06-15T05:50:55Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I think it’s more that you took a long, thoughtful post by a woman about her health and self-image, and distilled it down to “Is this chick bangable or not?”

Again, nice reach for outrage. I said I found her attractive and agreed with her post. There was a hardly a lascivious tone with respect to her. But again, nice try.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/56 "2015-06-15T06:18:09Z")

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Sure. Healthy core = Awesome sex.

Just say’n.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/57 "2015-06-15T15:48:00Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> I’m a hetero woman, if it matters, and I don’t particularly think a six-pack on either gender is attractive sexually. IOW I can admire it objectively as a great testament to their hard work, but I don’t find it overly desirable. I think the woman in the picture has a great figure and not having read the article, I’m not sure why she’s going out of her way to tell us what she \*doesn’t \*want. \*I’ve \*known the secret to not having six pack abs for a lonnnnnnng time.

I did read it and I think it was very well written. She talks about the kind of troubles that she had when trying to get a six-pack, and how that kind of goal is unrealistic _for her_ and becoming obsessed with it was unhealthy _for her_.

She also points out that there are many different builds: there are people for whom having a six-pack is perfectly healthy - just not her.

“Learn to work with the body you have, not the body the paintbrushed people in ads have” seems like perfectly fine advice to me.  
Oh and, **Sage Rat**? No menstruation doesn’t equal no ovulation.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/58 "2015-06-15T17:26:30Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> [Yes](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/bb/9a/82/bb9a82142a0a10014f37bb5f09bb5801.jpg)  
> [No](http://www.booostoxygen.com/static/media/ContentManagement/images/rene-six-pack.jpg)

That sums it up pretty well… I was thinking more like Kacy Catanzaro (American Ninja competitor) for the “yes” side.

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**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/59 "2015-06-15T20:40:11Z")

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> [@jimbuff314](#):
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> I also am in the don’t care camp. I have been aware for some time that “six-pack” abs are created more in front of the refrigerator than in the gym. They result from fairly extreme leanness and low body fat. Additionally, I can’t quite help wondering if the poll has a bit of a misogyny-fishing feel to it.

> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Saying that I find women with normal bodies attractive is fishing for misogyny?! Methinks not.

I am insane. I apologize for the final sentence in my post in which I (ever so gently, I thought) questioned your motives in this attractive six-pack chick thread.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-six-pack-attractive-on-a-chick/722325/60 "2015-06-15T21:31:04Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Oh and, **Sage Rat**? No menstruation doesn’t equal no ovulation.

That was more Rune’s side of the argument than mine, but good to know. I never had sex-ed growing up.

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