# Is a strict diet is it okay or bad?

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**Created:** [April 5, 2015, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-strict-diet-is-it-okay-or-bad/716891 "2015-04-05T17:54:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![sweat209](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@sweat209](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweat209)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-strict-diet-is-it-okay-or-bad/716891/1 "2015-04-05T17:54:17Z")

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I was reading that people that go on a strict diet yes almost starving oneself to death eating once a day or two times a day could cause major problems.  
That going on diet in a controlled way is one thing than a strict diet.

My wife put me on a strict diet.

I really hated it. Well It was feeling like I was starving everyday!! I lost about 55 pounds in 6 months.

What my wife did not tell me is medically speaking you should not lose more than two pounds in a week that is unhealthy. And a buddy of mind said base on article that rapid weight loss could trigger break down of muscle and bone.

If that is true that could explain why my joints like my knees, hip and shoulder and some times my wrist are making a popping/snapping noise.  
I probably should go for a bone scan now.

So strict diet is not good.

And well unfortunately most of my life I had no cheese and dairy products!!

I just now started to eat more healthy food like Fruit, Vegetables,cheese and dairy products and eggs two :)🙂 some times three times in a week.:)🙂

On average I eat fish once a week.

Did I destroy my body by going on a strict diet and not eating cheese and dairy products?  
Should I go for a bone scan now? Is buddy right that strict diet can cause break down of muscle and bone.

If on bone scan it is showing I have thin bones what can I do?

Eating cheese and dairy products every day repair lost bones? Or just stop bones from being more lost?

Will Eating cheese and dairy products every day build more bones and make my bones stronger? Will it help with my joints?

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-strict-diet-is-it-okay-or-bad/716891/2 "2015-04-05T18:12:17Z")

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if you restrict your caloric intake too much your body will strip muscle mass as well as burn fat.

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
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55lb in six months is 2.11lb/week.

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**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-strict-diet-is-it-okay-or-bad/716891/4 "2015-04-05T22:10:19Z")

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Dairy consumption is highly correlated with osteoporosis.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-strict-diet-is-it-okay-or-bad/716891/5 "2015-04-05T23:36:52Z")

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> [@get\_lives](#):
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> Dairy consumption is highly correlated with osteoporosis.

Other than the possibility that those with osteoporosis may attempt to consume more dairy this is a statement with no basis in fact.

Which is not to say that the role of dairy is not “whey” [overhyped](http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/77/2/504.abstract). Adequate calcium and vitamin D can be had without dairy and [not all dairy impacts bone health equally](http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/130201132336.htm).

The most important factor for bone health is adequate weight bearing exercise, especially while young.

The better reason to have some dairy may be a [lowered risk of metabolic syndrome.](http://www.webmd.com/heart/metabolic-syndrome/news/20051117/more-dairy-less-metabolic-syndrome)

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**Author:** ![AnaMen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@AnaMen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnaMen)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-strict-diet-is-it-okay-or-bad/716891/6 "2015-04-06T05:12:28Z")

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You should definitely go to a doctor and possibly a nutritionist so you can learn about what constitutes a healthy diet.

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**Author:** ![AnaMen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@AnaMen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnaMen)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-strict-diet-is-it-okay-or-bad/716891/7 "2015-04-06T05:14:06Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> The better reason to have some dairy may be a [lowered risk of metabolic syndrome.](http://www.webmd.com/heart/metabolic-syndrome/news/20051117/more-dairy-less-metabolic-syndrome)

But the best reason is cheese.

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**Author:** ![sweat209](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@sweat209](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweat209)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-strict-diet-is-it-okay-or-bad/716891/8 "2015-04-06T17:28:53Z")

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> [@get\_lives](#):
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> Dairy consumption is highly correlated with osteoporosis.

Your so wrong any medical book I read and web site and forum people who do not have dairy products have thin and brittle bones and prone to bone breaks.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-strict-diet-is-it-okay-or-bad/716891/9 "2015-04-06T17:37:57Z")

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> [@sweat209](#):
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> Your so wrong any medical book I read and web site and forum people who do not have dairy products have thin and brittle bones and prone to bone breaks.

This is very obviously not true – many regions’ and countries’ cuisines contain no dairy products, and many populations have very low levels of lactose tolerance. If most people in a given place can’t digest dairy products, then they’re not going to eat much dairy. And they’ll be fine as long as they have alternate sources of calcium (various plant foods).

Just as an easy example – many Chinese cuisines use little or no dairy products. In the past, many or most Chinese people probably consumed no dairy products.

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**Author:** ![sweat209](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@sweat209](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweat209)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-strict-diet-is-it-okay-or-bad/716891/10 "2015-04-06T17:43:49Z")

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> [@AnaMen](#):
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> You should definitely go to a doctor and possibly a nutritionist so you can learn about what constitutes a healthy diet.

No I don’t go to nutritionist when I can get medical book at book store and read up on vitamins and healthy foods.

I’m not a healthy foods junkie person.

The crucial reason why Your Cracking Bones And Joints Are In conversation with You

> **[The crucial reason why Your Cracking Bones And Joints Are In
conversation...](http://jointmn.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-crucial-reason-why-your-cracking.html)**
>
> Often times May very well patients who will inform me they hear funny doing, crackling and popping noises right from their knees, hips, legs...

> [@](#):
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> Often times May very well patients who will inform me they hear funny doing, crackling and popping noises right from their knees, hips, legs, wrists during different motions and wonder if they’ve cracked or damaged the bone somehow. I assure them it truly is, generally, not the case and all this those funny noises as a result a number of some things that I’d like to speak about.
> 
> Why Your Bones Were Talking To You
> 
> Throughout the path of the day and whatever movements you make, you may occasionally hear so many sounding noises from that the joints. Most often these noises are nothing to be concerned about, especially if you obviously not experiencing pain in the event you hear the noise. Web site of reasons that which explain cracking joints and noises - such as these:
> 
> ```
> Gases: Inside your joints there is also a lubricant called synovial flowing. This fluid contains the gases oxygen, carbon dioxide and plenty of nitrogen. When a particular movement causes the total capsule to stretch, attempting to makes a popping noise from all of these gases escaping. Almost always case a funny noise and does no harm to the common joint.
> 
> Tendons, predisposed joints, and ligaments movement: In their normal movements, tendons, joints, and ligaments sometimes step out of position and become slightly high. **This can happen occasionally if these structures are weak from a sedentary lifestyle** or over-exertion/wrong exercise. The "snapping" noise you may hear in the is the part righting itself for its normal position. Also, your ligaments and muscles tighten during movement inside of joint, especially knees and plenty of ankles, which can result in a cracking sound. Take time and energy to stretch every morning to switch this condition. Natural Excellent health Suggestion: If you drill and work out more on weighted equipment, never do the seated leg raise the particular padded bar is over your ankles and to raise the bar on your own legs. This causes pressure towards the knee joint and could quite possibly stretch the tendons or ligaments with the intention that normal movement can even make them slip out of place and/or also needs to the joint.
> 
> Arthritis/Worn Flexible material: In arthritis, worn cartilage can concede bone on bone friction which sound bubble wrap crackling. Could noise can, however, be in conjunction with pain as well. Organically produced Health Suggestion: Try taking some Omega 3 oils to improve symptoms of the inflammation that may perhaps be present within the joint this aid in lubrication. Soak in a nurturing bath with Epsom salts that contain magnesium to relieve pain in the neck. Be sure you have a tendency enough calcium and Vitamin D3 in your diet to help build merely how much bone up. If you're feeling overweight, getting rid of weight will take more pressure than normal off your joints that with movement.
> 
> Snapping Hip bone Syndrome: Also called "dancer's hip", effortlessly occurs most often in athletes or people who weight train from the common tendon becoming overly thickened. The snapping happens when the hip is extended which flexed and is which included a popping noise and or simply to pain or discomfort. Organically produced Health Suggestion: Usually resting the leg support and staying off it temporarly while. Sometimes icing the area helps as well. Since inflammation usually sets out to occur from this generic friction, taking 2, 000 mg of Omega 3 oils can really help decrease it. Stretching around hip muscles, particularly one is iliopsoas tendon or iliotibial wrist band, with slow and prepared stretching movements before activity will allow it to more limber so when your structures are not so tight that they snap with stronger movements.
> 
> ```
> 
> As I reveal to my patients, all of such creaking, snapping, popping, and crackling noises you hear if you possibly could stretch or exercise or even just simply move around are nothing to consider. Most often they exist in not being as limber as important work and your tendons and ligaments are developing a somewhat tight position most the purpose. Be sure to multitude completely before any regular fitness, or just simply stretch las vegas dui attorney up in the morning. Drink enough water and fluids in the daytime to help relieve frustration. If, however, you experience pain in the event you move a certain way and hear one of them noises, do contact your doctor furthermore there isn’t something much more going on with or even joints/bones.
> 
> Stay well,
> 
> Dr. Mark

What I quoted in bold may be more of concern of me having a very sedentary lifestyle.

It seem if I move around and do stretching exercises it does not make noise. Only when I sit or lay or not move for some time than move a joint.

It not like I’m walking around in store or going up stars in mall and it is making a popping sound. It seems stretching exercises and movements of joints help.  
If that was case I would go to ER.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-strict-diet-is-it-okay-or-bad/716891/11 "2015-04-06T17:51:07Z")

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Just because you can modify a Porsche to use a coal-fired steam plant doesn’t mean it’s a good idea. Have we learned nothing from the Jurassic Park movies, let alone Frankenstein?

Try different diets, find something that works for you, and then don’t gorge on anything. Everything in moderation. Get some exercise. Wear sunblock. Tip your waitress.

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**Author:** ![sweat209](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@sweat209](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweat209)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-strict-diet-is-it-okay-or-bad/716891/12 "2015-04-06T17:55:38Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> This is very obviously not true – many regions’ and countries’ cuisines contain no dairy products, and many populations have very low levels of lactose tolerance. If most people in a given place can’t digest dairy products, then they’re not going to eat much dairy. And they’ll be fine as long as they have alternate sources of calcium (various plant foods).
> 
> Just as an easy example – many Chinese cuisines use little or no dairy products. In the past, many or most Chinese people probably consumed no dairy products.

That not what I read or people I know that have brittle and thin bones and the doctor telling them to eat more dairy or take supplements.

And they had bone scan and was concern. There many people in my family broke their hip.

I could have bone scan and every thing is okay. But there many other people in my family who have thin brittle bones. And they eat many vegetables but hardly any dairy.

There are supplements you can get if you low on vitamins and dairy. But you have to see doctor if you low

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**Author:** ![sweat209](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@sweat209](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweat209)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-strict-diet-is-it-okay-or-bad/716891/13 "2015-04-06T18:06:17Z")

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‘Sedentary lifestyle to blame for knee ailments’

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> How common are knee problems in the city? Is there a specific age group afflicted by them?
> 
> Knee ailments have become very common in the last few years. They usually affect the age group between 40 and 70 years. Stiffness of the knees, knee pain, problems with the knee cap are common complaints that people have. In recent years, we have observed a large number of patients from the IT background as well. People in their late 30s suffering from knee-related ailments are turning up at clinics. The number of such cases has increased two-fold now.
> 
> What are the common causes for the increasing cases of knee problems?  
> There are two cardinal causes for knee problems. In case of senior citizens, natural wear and tear of the knee joint is responsible for the various ailments of the knee. Usage of the Indian-type toilet, old injuries and neglect of nagging pains aggravate the condition.
> 
> However, in case of the younger generation, a sedentary lifestyle is responsible for the various knee problems. Those in the IT sector, who work for more than 12-15 hours a day and sit in the same position for a long time, are accelerating the wear and tear of their knee joints. Also, most of them do not exercise at all.  
> What lifestyle changes do you suggest to avoid the early onset of knee problems?  
> Half an hour of daily exercise is the only way of avoiding knee problems. This exercise can be in the form of yoga, cycling, static cycling or jogging. Also, in between working hours it is a good idea to take short breaks. The only silver lining is that awareness among youngsters about knee problems is quite high.  
> Can you share five symptoms of the onset of serious knee problems?  
> Recurrent pain in the knee, stiffening, sudden change in gait, locked knee and swelling are the five major symptoms of the onset of knee problems. It is advisable to seek professional help in case you are suffering from any one of these symptoms.

> **[‘Sedentary lifestyle to blame for knee ailments’](https://www.dnaindia.com/health/interview-sedentary-lifestyle-to-blame-for-knee-ailments-1531749)**
>
> Extreme cases also call for knee replacement. Orthopaedic surgeon Dr Madan Hardikar talks about these ailments with DNA.

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OP should see if criminal charges can be filed against his spouse for forcing him to go on such a diet. If authorities refuse to make any formal criminal charges, a civil case should be pursued against her.

Shame, shame, shame.

OP probably won’t need to consult an attorney to follow through on these strategies. He could just get a book out of the library.

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**Author:** ![AnaMen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@AnaMen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnaMen)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-strict-diet-is-it-okay-or-bad/716891/15 "2015-04-06T19:36:56Z")

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> [@sweat209](#):
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> No I don’t go to nutritionist when I can get medical book at book store and read up on vitamins and healthy foods.
> 
> I’m not a healthy foods junkie person.

You don’t seem to have the ability to determine what a healthy diet is for yourself. You relied on your wife, seemingly neither a doctor, nutritionist, nor medical book, to guide you, and now you fear you have done damage to your body as a result. Why not consult with an actual expert?

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-strict-diet-is-it-okay-or-bad/716891/16 "2015-04-06T19:41:48Z")

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Go to the doctor.

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**Author:** ![sweat209](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@sweat209](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweat209)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-strict-diet-is-it-okay-or-bad/716891/17 "2015-04-06T19:51:38Z")

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> [@AnaMen](#):
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> You don’t seem to have the ability to determine what a healthy diet is for yourself. You relied on your wife, seemingly neither a doctor, nutritionist, nor medical book, to guide you, and now you fear you have done damage to your body as a result. Why not consult with an actual expert?

If I was healthy food junkie person I would get some medical books. The only way to know if I have thin brittle bones is to have bone scan. There is list on blood work sheet that doctor checks to see if you lacking some thing and will say eat this or take supplements.

My concern is going on strict diet bad?

> [@](#):
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> OP should see if criminal charges can be filed against his spouse for forcing him to go on such a diet. If authorities refuse to make any formal criminal charges, a civil case should be pursued against her.

So what my wife did is bad? It was too fast and too strict of a diet? It should been year or two years not 6 months.

Eating so little was bad?

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**Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-strict-diet-is-it-okay-or-bad/716891/18 "2015-04-06T20:08:20Z")

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> [@sweat209](#):
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> If I was healthy food junkie person I would get some medical books. The only way to know if I have thin brittle bones is to have bone scan. There is list on blood work sheet that doctor checks to see if you lacking some thing and will say eat this or take supplements.
> 
> My concern is going on strict diet bad?
> 
> So what my wife did is bad? It was too fast and too strict of a diet? It should been year or two years not 6 months.
> 
> Eating so little was bad?

Eating a healthy diet is something everyone who cares about their health should do. It is not just for “healthy food junkie” persons.

Your concerns are best addressed in person by a medical professional. You may have nutritional deficiencies from eating a restricted diet. They can help guide you to healthy food choices and portions that you can live with longterm instead of a restrictive diet.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-strict-diet-is-it-okay-or-bad/716891/19 "2015-04-06T20:58:02Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> This is very obviously not true – many regions’ and countries’ cuisines contain no dairy products, and many populations have very low levels of lactose tolerance. If most people in a given place can’t digest dairy products, then they’re not going to eat much dairy. And they’ll be fine as long as they have alternate sources of calcium (various plant foods).
> 
> Just as an easy example – many Chinese cuisines use little or no dairy products. In the past, many or most Chinese people probably consumed no dairy products.

Just because you may find this stuff interesting … [Different populations](http://jn.nutrition.org/content/138/6/1256S.full.pdf) seem to be impacted by diet differences [differently](http://apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/apjcn/2/4/183.htm). Some populations can, from a bone health POV, tolerate more salt, whereas others respond to increased salt with calcium loss. Asian women somehow have less risk for fractures even with decreased bone density and mass. Blacks have less total vitamin D but higher bone density (different amounts of [vitamin D binding protein](http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/507252)). What one group does not need another one may.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-a-strict-diet-is-it-okay-or-bad/716891/20 "2015-04-06T21:29:38Z")

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> [@AnaMen](#):
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> Your concerns are best addressed in person by a medical professional. You may have nutritional deficiencies from eating a restricted diet. They can help guide you to healthy food choices and portions that you can live with longterm instead of a restrictive diet.

Do you have any idea [how](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=753256) [many](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=747878) threads with similar themes this poster/character has created (plus the amusing [treadmill constipation](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=745591) one) and how many times the character has been advised to see a doctor?

Interestingly (no accusations being made), the same poster who has written [coherently](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17788242&postcount=10) in other threads, is, in these “help me with my health” threads, unable to use English properly and always finds a reason to not take any advice given. And interestingly a character who [is lactose intolerant](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18103205&postcount=33) is now eating lots of dairy products. Draw your own conclusions.

Meanwhile for others who might be interested … [genetics](http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/507252) are a major factor in bone mineral density (BMD):

> [@Medscape](#):
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> … as much as 60 to 85% of the variance in BMD is genetically determined, and heritability estimates for other risk factors for fragility fracture such as quantitative ultrasound, femoral neck geometry, and bone turnover markers range between 50 and 80% …

If a person has lots of osteoporosis in the family it would actually be appropriate to be concerned … and getting real expert advice would be indicated. Maybe a bone scan and a vitamin D level check _would_ be called for.

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