# "Is air really feces? Should we hate it?" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 3, 2004, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408 "2004-06-03T06:25:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2004, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/21 "2004-06-04T04:48:34Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > Very good, **QED**. _Very_ good. > > šŸ˜ƒ > [@Yeticus Rex](#): > > Let me just echo another ā€œBravo!ā€ your wayā€¦ šŸ˜› Thank you, thank you! Iā€™ll be here all week. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2004, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/22 "2004-06-04T04:59:21Z")
Can I suggest a change in venue? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2004, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/23 "2004-06-05T03:33:14Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Well, thatā€™s just because no one like you, **Bryan**. > > šŸ˜‰ The thought had occurred. ---
**Author:** ![Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boo_Boo_Foo)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2004, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/24 "2004-06-05T05:18:11Z")
If memory serves me correctly, **pizzabrat** sailed through the cyber waters of this messageboard for some two years or more without once ever showing up on the radar. And then BAM! In the last month, weā€™ve seen this metamorphosis into a person who just lives to argue - rather poorly too I might add. Itā€™s almost as if a new person has taken over an old user login. Iā€™m not saying thatā€™s what happened, but youā€™d definitely be excused for thinking it MIGHT be the case. That being said, ummmmā€¦ manā€¦ what a stupid thread this is. Arguing about opinions on a messageboard is an even greater waste of time than arguing about whether Al Gore actually won the last Presidential election. I love Great Debates. One in 10 threads rocks my world. The other 9 I choose to ignore. Whatā€™s so hard to grasp about that? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2004, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/25 "2004-06-05T10:05:21Z")
No, **pizzabrat** has maintained a generally uniform level of idiocy throughout his tenure on the boards. His recent threads are entirely in keeping with some of his earlier gems such as [Is Jon Stewart Racist?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=156293), [hairy scalps](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=124596) (which I can only assume was some sort of hare-brained attempt at parody), [Colin Powell is NOT black!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=164140), [ā€œbigoted italian familyā€](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=168213), [Homosexuals](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=172299) (complete with a half-assed [follow up thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=172341) defending it), [Hey! Pay attention to me!!!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=192951), [::cough::](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=192709), [Man thinks dogs are divine](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=187065), [White people and doube-blinking](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=180279) (Altogether on this one: What the FUCK?), [Women - How do you like your pupils](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=180277) (Apparently unrelated to the preceeding thread, but Iā€™m just scanning the OPs. Iā€™ve got a lot of stupid to process here.), [The North American and his Watered Down Features](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=176161), [Yay! We speak English!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=205568), [Mother and I have a game we play](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=196644) (Hands down the creepiest thread title EVER), [Look at my totally on point sarcasm.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=216889) (which, judging by his posting history, does not seem to be sarcastic), [Itā€™s ā€œtheiā€ not ā€œtheyā€!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=216883), [I wish England still had a Monarchy](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=216883) (Containing surprising information to Britons everywhere), and [That guyā€™s wearing fashionably oversized sports attire!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=251877), which brings us more or less up to date, at least in so far as threads _started_ by **pizzabrat** go. Heā€™s also been plenty stupid in threads started by other people, but Iā€™ll leaving finding those as an exercise for the reader. ---
**Author:** ![EsotericEnigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e274bd/32.png) [@EsotericEnigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EsotericEnigma)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2004, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/26 "2004-06-05T11:44:34Z")
Come on guys, admit itā€¦how many times have you been so frustrated on GD that you wanted to start a thread like this one? I know I have been. Fuck, sometimes talking to people is like stabbing yourself in the eye. ---
**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2004, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/27 "2004-06-05T14:40:00Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Iā€™ve got a lot of stupid to process here. A sig-worthy line, if ever Iā€™ve seen one! šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2004, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/28 "2004-06-05T15:23:06Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > Got the irony here, but keep in mind that you are a newcomer onto the board and are coming in swinging. Those of us who stick around do so because our experience of these boards is NOT like yours, and your criticisms are rude, ill-considered, and ignorant. > > If youā€™re finding that you donā€™t get good responses to your OPs, you may want to consider how you phrase them. If youā€™ll link to an OP that you consider unfairly treated, Iā€™ll tell you how it comes across to this Doper. > > But donā€™t come in here after a couple of weeks and tell us how weā€™re really not fighing ignorance: thatā€™s as ignorant as it is uncivil. > > Daniel Oh, actually this person has used another name in the past, but preferred not to pay, I guess. So I banned this name of his. Lynn For the Straight Dope ---
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2004, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/29 "2004-06-05T20:51:09Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > No, **pizzabrat** has maintained a generally uniform level of idiocy throughout his tenure on the boards. His recent threads are entirely in keeping with some of his earlier gems such as [Is Jon Stewart Racist?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=156293), [hairy scalps](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=124596) (which I can only assume was some sort of hare-brained attempt at parody), [Colin Powell is NOT black!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=164140), [ā€œbigoted italian familyā€](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=168213), [Homosexuals](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=172299) (complete with a half-assed [follow up thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=172341) defending it), [Hey! Pay attention to me!!!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=192951), [::cough::](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=192709), [Man thinks dogs are divine](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=187065), [White people and doube-blinking](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=180279) (Altogether on this one: What the FUCK?), [Women - How do you like your pupils](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=180277) (Apparently unrelated to the preceeding thread, but Iā€™m just scanning the OPs. Iā€™ve got a lot of stupid to process here.), [The North American and his Watered Down Features](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=176161), [Yay! We speak English!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=205568), [Mother and I have a game we play](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=196644) (Hands down the creepiest thread title EVER), [Look at my totally on point sarcasm.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=216889) (which, judging by his posting history, does not seem to be sarcastic), [Itā€™s ā€œtheiā€ not ā€œtheyā€!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=216883), [I wish England still had a Monarchy](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=216883) (Containing surprising information to Britons everywhere), and [That guyā€™s wearing fashionably oversized sports attire!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=251877), which brings us more or less up to date, at least in so far as threads _started_ by **pizzabrat** go. Heā€™s also been plenty stupid in threads started by other people, but Iā€™ll leaving finding those as an exercise for the reader. Idiocy? Did you read those threads past their titles? Just about all of them were completely misunderstood (and I secretly suspect willfully so) by most of the posters in them. And half of those were _jokes_. And though Iā€™m used to people clouding my words with their own personal prejudices (check those threads again to see the crates of alien words I routinely have wheelbarrelled down my mouth), and mistaking the then polluted message for _my_ stupidity, it still rocks me to see someone presumptiously articulate it. However, Iā€™m valitdated enough by people who admit to sharing my sentiments (and appreciating my jokes) to know that itā€™s not ā€œjust meā€. ---
**Author:** ![Brainiac4](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brainiac4/32/3534_2.png) [@Brainiac4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brainiac4)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2004, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/30 "2004-06-05T22:31:24Z")
> [@pizzabrat](#): > > Idiocy? Did you read those threads past their titles? Just about all of them were completely misunderstood (and I secretly suspect willfully so) by most of the posters in them. And half of those were _jokes_. > \ Let the record show that Pizzabrat votes in favor of the ā€œconsistent level of idiocyā€ theory. I guess. Itā€™s kind of hard to tell. ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/31 "2004-06-06T00:22:18Z")
> [@pizzabrat](#): > > Idiocy? Did you read those threads past their titles? Just about all of them were completely misunderstood ā€¦ If you find yourself consistently misunderstood, then you must consider the possibility that you are not communicating well. Itā€™s your choice, really; go through life convinced the world is ā€œagainst youā€, or learn to _actually_ communicate your ideas in such a way that you _are_ understood. Perhaps some classes in speech and/or creative writing at your local community college. ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/32 "2004-06-06T00:55:42Z")
Thatā€™s right **pizzabrat** , itā€™s not _you_, itā€™s _everybody else_ā€¦ You know, the fact that your OP is about the fact that thereā€™s people who will validate even the most ridiculous ideas. the fact that thereā€™s a poster or two who will ā€œadmit to sharing your sentimentsā€ isnā€™t really saying much. :rolleyes: And considering your past threads, your OP is at the _height_ of irony. Of course, since you appear to think you can do no harm and are a freaking genius, I wouldnā€™t be suprised to learn that you completely missed that. ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/33 "2004-06-06T01:01:39Z")
> [@lezlers](#): > > You know, the fact that your OP is about the fact that thereā€™s people who will validate even the most ridiculous ideas. the fact that thereā€™s a poster or two who will ā€œadmit to sharing your sentimentsā€ isnā€™t really saying much. Wow. Howā€™s _that_ for a hellaciously written sentence? It _should_ read: You know, considering the fact your OP is about the fact that thereā€™s people out there who will validate even the most ridiculous of ideas, the fact that thereā€™s a poster or two who will ā€œadmit to sharing your sentimentsā€ isnā€™t really saying much. ---
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/34 "2004-06-06T02:05:12Z")
> [@lezlers](#): > > And considering your past threads, your OP is at the _height_ of irony. Of course, since you appear to think you can do no harm and are a freaking genius, I wouldnā€™t be suprised to learn that you completely missed that. I donā€™t think Iā€™m a genius, but I donā€™t think Iā€™m an _idiot_ either. So what am I supposed to say? ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/35 "2004-06-06T04:34:10Z")
> [@pizzabrat](#): > > I donā€™t think Iā€™m a genius, but I donā€™t think Iā€™m an idiot either. So what am I supposed to say? Well, easing up on the ā€œmy analogy was PERFECT!!ā€ and ā€œeveryone just _misunderstands_ me!ā€ in the face of any form of criticism (especially when 95% of all posts to any of your threads are criticisms) would be a good start. Otherwise, your refusal to take any criticisms into consideration regardless of their validity, indicates you do in fact, consider yourself a genius. Which is nothing short of hysterically funny. ---
**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/36 "2004-06-06T05:18:22Z")
Why does this make me think of that priceless observation: ā€œHave you noticed that the one consistent feature of each of your dysfunctional relationships is _you_?ā€ ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/37 "2004-06-06T05:59:58Z")
> [@pizzabrat](#): > > I donā€™t think Iā€™m a genius, but I donā€™t think Iā€™m an _idiot_ either. So what am I supposed to say? Well, you could start another thread, titled ā€œIdiots. Why does everything think Iā€™m, like, one of them?ā€ ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/38 "2004-06-06T06:01:52Z")
> [@pizzabrat](#): > > I donā€™t think Iā€™m a genius, but I donā€™t think Iā€™m an _idiot_ either. I think youā€™re half right. ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/39 "2004-06-06T06:19:44Z")
> [@pizzabrat](#): > > I donā€™t think Iā€™m a genius, but I donā€™t think Iā€™m an _idiot_ either. So what am I supposed to say? Thinking carefully and _then_ posting might be helpful. Veb ---
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408/40 "2004-06-06T15:34:54Z")
Okay, this isnā€™t supposed to be another vanity thread, so Iā€™ll end the me segmentā€¦ Come on, you know those dumb threads, like the perplexingly common comparison of pedophelia and the recent acceptance of homosexuality. One involves raping children, the other _doesnā€™t_ involve raping children. Where the fuck is the confusion coming from? Then thereā€™s [this ten-page joke](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=248043) where some guy comes promotes segregated breeding communes just to ensure himself a white wife. _Then_ thereā€™re those with the purposefully deceptive titles asking for debates on things no one can disagree with like [ā€œShould students get 6 months in jail for saing the word ā€˜Jesusā€™ā€](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=221663), and [ā€œShould people have to pay to receive their stolen property back from the police?ā€](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=249489). Why even throw the queries a bone? End futile attempt to get thread back on track [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-air-really-feces-should-we-hate-it/248408.md?page=3)