# Is America a Fascist Country? Are we the next Egypt? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 1, 2011, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-a-fascist-country-are-we-the-next-egypt/569835 "2011-02-01T23:06:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-a-fascist-country-are-we-the-next-egypt/569835/101 "2011-02-03T17:28:56Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > If you define Fascism as the welding of business and government to the interests of business ,then we are clearly headed down that road. There’s glory for you! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-a-fascist-country-are-we-the-next-egypt/569835/102 "2011-02-03T17:30:11Z")
> [@AshenLady](#): > > If anyone sees any “brownshirt” types in the street, please let me know. UPS count? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-a-fascist-country-are-we-the-next-egypt/569835/103 "2011-02-03T18:48:15Z")
Ugh. The U.S. is not a fascist state. It’s a plutocracy. ---
**Author:** ![Nadir](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nadir/32/7302_2.png) [@Nadir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nadir)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-a-fascist-country-are-we-the-next-egypt/569835/104 "2011-02-03T22:51:16Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > The game is over. 305,000 General Electric employees might have a problem with that. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-a-fascist-country-are-we-the-next-egypt/569835/105 "2011-02-03T22:51:47Z")
[Plutocracy](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://hemmingforddogblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/pluto_dog_01.jpg&imgrefurl=http://kevscatharsis.blogspot.com/2009/04/beer-argument-internet-enabled-cell.html&h=372&w=300&sz=27&tbnid=s8EUTLg8Xu5AXM:&tbnh=122&tbnw=98&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpluto%2Bthe%2Bdog&zoom=1&q=pluto+the+dog&hl=en&usg=__CTBvi6bjY2s7xDjwpEzVRyDCuUg=&sa=X&ei=XjFLTY7KKYrWgQfq6Pwq&sqi=2&ved=0CCAQ9QEwAQ). Definitely… -XT ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-a-fascist-country-are-we-the-next-egypt/569835/106 "2011-02-03T23:19:16Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > [List of assets owned by General Electric - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_General_Electric) > This is the primary units owned by GE. GE makes a mint during the wars. And even more when there isn’t a war and we can focus more dollars on expanding housing, consumer spending and health care. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-a-fascist-country-are-we-the-next-egypt/569835/107 "2011-02-03T23:50:12Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > If you define Fascism as the welding of business and government to the interests of business ,then we are clearly headed down that road. We may be there now. Ike warned us of the danger of a part of it. The military and industry. We have gone far beyond that, with GE a huge military contractor owning massive segments of the media as an example. The trend is clear. > The enormous power of lobbyists working for business is warping our politics too. The voice of the people is subdued when compared to the access and influence of corporations. They are inside government and own the TV and radio. We can be convinced to back any way they choose. Iraq is a perfect example. All stations had rousing support for a war that was wrong . The military was allowed to lie without any rebuttal. The game is over. Yes, and if you define “Christian” as someone who believes Jesus was the Messiah, was born of a virgin and will return to confront the anti-Christ then Iran, Saudi Arabia and Iraq are all Christian countries. Simplistic definitions yields bad results. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-a-fascist-country-are-we-the-next-egypt/569835/108 "2011-02-03T23:59:28Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > [List of assets owned by General Electric - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_General_Electric) > This is the primary units owned by GE. GE makes a mint during the wars. Do you think all the media they own are free to criticize the war that is making billions for the parent company? Do you think they will come out for cutting the military budget? Do you think the media they own will quietly accept an era of peace that costs them huge profits? > That is the danger. It does not have to be a plot subverting America. It is just a corporation with a prime directive to maximize profits. They make lots of money off military contracts and war. Well MSNBC was owned by GE and has been extremely critical of the War and calling for the US to withdraw since 2003. Anyone who ever saw Keith Olbermann’s Countdown or Rachel Maddow would say the answer to all your questions is “yes”. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-a-fascist-country-are-we-the-next-egypt/569835/109 "2011-02-04T01:36:05Z")
> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > Ugh. The U.S. is not a fascist state. It’s a plutocracy. Of our Presidents since World War II only Kennedy and the Bushes have come from anything like a “plutocratic” background. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-a-fascist-country-are-we-the-next-egypt/569835/110 "2011-02-04T01:40:33Z")
I doubt **Le Jacquelope** was talking only about presidents. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-a-fascist-country-are-we-the-next-egypt/569835/111 "2011-02-04T01:47:43Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I doubt **Le Jacquelope** was talking only about presidents. I know. I was merely giving an example. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-a-fascist-country-are-we-the-next-egypt/569835.md?page=5)