# Is America Great Again, yet?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 7, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202 "2020-06-07T16:04:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/1 "2020-06-07T16:04:39Z")

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Just thinking about all the wonderful things Trump has done for this country:

- Highest COVID-19 cases and deaths in the world.
- Best protests and Riots since, well, ever
- Highest unemployment since the 1930’s

So, are we great yet?

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/2 "2020-06-07T16:24:06Z")

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Still working on slavery and smallpox, but that’s what second terms are for.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/3 "2020-06-07T18:16:14Z")

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Yes, President Trump has done a lot of fine work. But America won’t really be great again until we’ve lost a major war.

So four more years, people!

Seriously, try to picture Trump as a war leader. He’s currently losing a fight with a virus. Imagine him having to face a human opponent.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/4 "2020-06-07T18:31:16Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Seriously, try to picture Trump as a war leader. He’s currently losing a fight with a virus.

You say losing. I say colluding.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/5 "2020-06-07T18:49:51Z")

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Oh, we’re great. GREAT! Did you see the scary people fence Trump put around the White House? Great! Perfect!  
Like a perfect phone call, or a perfect pandemic response.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/6 "2020-06-07T19:36:03Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> You say losing. I say colluding.

In a boardgaming forum, I posted that we’re all playing a real world version of Pandemic and Trump is the hidden traitor.

I assure you that makes sense if you’re a boardgamer.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/7 "2020-06-07T19:42:37Z")

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Well, coal is king, Hilary is locked up, and a HUUUGGGEEE wall (paid for by Mexico) surrounds 100% of our borders, we manufacture everything we used to buy from the Chinese ourselves, and our infrastructure has been completely revitalized, so yeah, I’d say America is great!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/8 "2020-06-07T23:35:58Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> Well, coal is king, Hilary is locked up, and a HUUUGGGEEE wall (paid for by Mexico) surrounds 100% of our borders, we manufacture everything we used to buy from the Chinese ourselves, and our infrastructure has been completely revitalized, so yeah, I’d say America is great!

And let’s not forget how our Space Force conquered Mars.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/9 "2020-06-07T23:52:47Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> Just thinking about all the wonderful things Trump has done for this country:
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> - Highest COVID-19 cases and deaths in the world.
> - Best protests and Riots since, well, ever
> - Highest unemployment since the 1930’s
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> So, are we great yet?

Depends. When were we great the first time?

> [@Little Nemo](#):
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> And let’s not forget how our Space Force conquered Mars.

Actually, according to a couple movies I’ve seen, it was a close-run thing, until the Martians all caught COVID-19.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/10 "2020-06-07T23:53:48Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Depends. When were we great the first time?

1776

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/11 "2020-06-08T01:42:46Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Actually, according to a couple movies I’ve seen, it was a close-run thing, until the Martians all caught COVID-19.

And which nation had the biggest stockpile of COVID-19 virus on hand?

USA! USA! USA!

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/12 "2020-06-08T12:31:41Z")

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STOP! NO MORE! All this winning is exhausting.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/13 "2020-06-08T12:54:51Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> And let’s not forget how our Space Force conquered Mars.

Someone REALLY needs to whisper this in Trumps ear. The Tweets would be fantastic. I don’t even bother with the comics anymore.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/14 "2020-06-08T13:10:00Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Someone REALLY needs to whisper this in Trumps ear. The Tweets would be fantastic. **I don’t even bother with the comics anymore.**

I do for the needed daily dose of realism.

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**Author:** ![Author\_Balk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Author\_Balk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Author_Balk)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/15 "2020-06-08T18:01:02Z")

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Note, this is NOT me speaking… But, they could make a case.  
Before Covid, the employment level was very low. The economy was doing well (a long expansion that started during the Obama presidency).  
All countries are dealing with the pandemic and economic impacts. A lot of this would happen even if we had a normal president.  
We have had protests and riots all along. For example:  
2014: Eric Garner/Michael Brown  
2015: Freddie Gray  
2016: Sylville Smith and Keith Lamont Scott  
I think we have had fewer in the last three years than the last three years of Obama’s presidency.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/16 "2020-06-08T19:28:23Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Oh, we’re great. GREAT! Did you see the scary people fence Trump put around the White House? Great! Perfect!

I hear the scandal over the fence has a name:

BabyGate.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/17 "2020-06-08T20:13:46Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> And let’s not forget how our Space Force conquered Mars.

That was Santa.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/18 "2020-06-08T20:23:24Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> And let’s not forget how our Space Force conquered Mars.

That was Santa.

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**Author:** ![campp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@campp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/campp)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/19 "2020-06-08T20:46:07Z")

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I swear I saw a Trump campaign ad yesterday that had a graphic: “Keep America Great”. Has anyone seen that or was I mistaken? I’m in Arizona, a leaning purple state.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-america-great-again-yet/855202/20 "2020-06-08T20:56:47Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> STOP! NO MORE! All this winning is exhausting.

It’s true. He said we would beg him. I’m begging. Stop all this winning! Please!

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