So you are in favor of voluntary prostitution but also in favor of public service commercials recommending against it. Cool. More specifically; what do you mean by banning? What are the penalties if you violate the ban? Caning? Beheading? Stoning? Prison? A scarlet A tattooed on your forehead? Old ladies saying “tut tut?” behind the sluts backs? It makes a bit of a difference.
Sexual services in exchange for money will be illegal. As for punishment jail and/or rehabilitation work camps.
So what exactly is your definition of force? And work camps? Really?
I guess power of law is force but that’s the only possibility nowadays.
Prison farms? Community service? That’s part of my program.
So is it force or is it not? And what other possibilities were possible prior to “nowadays?”
There’s a world of difference between prison farms and community service. Maybe you should volunteer for a a prison farm in China and then come back and do some community service in the USA and report back to us on your experiences. I’ll await your report.
Oh and while you’re reporting what exactly is your program?
The moral character of much of America’s peoples have decayed so much only the threat of force of law can deter them from immoral actions.
I meant American prison farms not Chinese ones. As for the program rehabilitation as I’ve said for former prostitutes and also drug users and antisocial types.
So it is force that you are advocating. Glad we got that straightened out.
So you are going to rehabilitate “former” prostitutes. What about the ones who are current and want to continue to be prostitutes? Will you rehabilitate them too? Against their will? I’ll let the drug users go for now and march right on to the “antisocial types” and again say really? I’m getting the sinking feeling that I might be one of your “antisocial types.” Are you sure you don’t want to go to China? I think you might fit right in there. Maybe Singapore would be better as a starter, just kind of ease your way in.
Rock on son, rock on.
What a marvelous feat of cherry picking!
Are you willing to implement all the rest of Confucius’s political and social philosophies? More to the point, are there any notions of morality you wouldn’t use the government to enforce?
No I do not. Also as they are threat to the moral and social cohesion of society they should be rehabiliated by law as done to criminals today.
I don’t support outright banning pornography.
Oh, hon, I’m not even going to ask you for your definition of “antisocial types.” I’ll just leave you with this;
Wowsers, a new sig line!
It’s all the prohibition which makes the US so free … did you steal that idea from Huxley’s “1984”?
[edit] and shithey, of course I mean Orwell, duh [/edit]
The latter statement embodies the ancient Chinese political philosophy of Legalism, to which Confucianism was diametrically opposed.
From Huxley’s Brave New World, we have the maxim, “A gramme [of the euphoriant drug Soma] is better than a damn.” Somewhat more defensible, no?
The U.S. is certainly backward in the sense that Canada and most of the other western democracies have been lowering corporate taxes and taxes on dividends and capital gains, while the U.S. is going the other direction.
Also, other countries like Canada are getting their fiscal houses in order. Canada’s pension system is fully funded, for example. Your system is SO 1970’s.
The U.S. is also backwards in that it has a 1970’s-era nuclear regulatory environment, while more enlightened countries like France and Canada continue to promote nuclear power.
The U.S. is also moving towards more government control of health care, while the more enlightened countries like Canada are working to privatize more and more health services.
Yep. You guys are in the economic dark ages, what with your Keynesian policies, huge deficits, and resurrection of failed industrial policies of the 20th century.
Ironically that’s true. The rest of the West is growing more conservative (Cameron, Merkel, Sarkozy, Harper) but the US is trying to emulate the social democratic Europe.
Okay, so “promotion of morality” is based on “my personal whim.”
Porro ago tyrannus.
Curtis, I have to ask: Do you have a strong religious background or influence in your life? Because a 13 year old saying “People shouldn’t be having sex outside marriage or enjoying it!” is… not a typical attitude of a male early teenager, no matter how ostensibly well-read or “learned” they might be/think they are.
Also, are you aware that several countries- including Australia, New Zealand, many European Union nations, and even Singapore- have legalised prostitution, without society there collapsing or even sagging a bit?
If the Singaporean government- and these are people that will fine you hundreds or thousands of dollars for riding your bike across a pedestrian crossing or littering, and completely bans the sale of chewing gum for the most part- says legal prostitution is OK with them, then surely you must realise that your opposition to legalised prostitution for the reasons you’ve given seems a bit silly?
Cameron isn’t in power (yet).
It’s significant that none of these rightward-moving countries are going to get anywhere near adopting the current U.S. system in certain key respects, such as health care policies. So saying that they’re moving rightward doesn’t really make a case.