# Is an apology enough?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-an-apology-enough/756838>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 8, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-an-apology-enough/756838 "2016-06-08T16:29:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-an-apology-enough/756838/41 "2016-06-09T02:34:20Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> Trump never said all Mexicans were rapists. The open border allows many criminals to enter the USA, and that’s a fact.

Cite?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-an-apology-enough/756838/42 "2016-06-09T02:37:59Z")

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No. An apology is not enough.

Never having been a candidate for the Republican nomination in the first place is necessary (but likely still insufficient).

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-an-apology-enough/756838/43 "2016-06-09T02:39:53Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> So an elderly Black woman said I spoke English well. What should have my response have been? “Of course I can you dumb bitch?” Perhaps, I should have screamed her in her face that she was a racist? People need to stop being so sensitive.
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> Trump never said all Mexicans were rapists. The open border allows **many** criminals to enter the USA, and that’s a fact.

> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Cite?

Watch out for weasel words. Before you request a cite, get him to define “many.”

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-an-apology-enough/756838/44 "2016-06-09T02:49:20Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> So an elderly Black woman said I spoke English well. What should have my response have been? “Of course I can you dumb bitch?” Perhaps, I should have screamed her in her face that she was a racist? People need to stop being so sensitive.

The least sensitive person in this presidential election cycle has been Trump who has responded to legitimate questions and mild comments with over-the-top personally directed vitriol–and usually lied when he did it.

> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> Trump never said all Mexicans were rapists. The open border allows many criminals to enter the USA, and that’s a fact.

Trump said that Mexico was sending criminals to the U.S., as if it was a deliberate political policy of the Mexican government. If you do not even know what he actually said, why offer commentary?

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-an-apology-enough/756838/45 "2016-06-09T03:37:20Z")

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Trump will never apologize and walk the party line. His whole selling point has been that he’s not a GOP puppet and of course he doesn’t think he has anything to apologise for. It’s going to be fun watching the GOP simultaneously try and say they support him, while distancing themselves as much as possible in their individual down ticket races.

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**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-an-apology-enough/756838/46 "2016-06-09T08:29:19Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> CNN, MSNBC, others.
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> And I happen to agree, “narrow window of time” is another one of those ridiculous and meaningless statements. Who decides on how much time and what drives that decision?

In this case, I’m guessing it’s reality that decides. The election is in November and there is a finite amount of time between now and then and the clock is running. He’s got about 5 months tops. That is a narrow window of time. Are you saying that if he changes a couple of years from now it’ll somehow affect this election? If not, narrow window of time

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-an-apology-enough/756838/47 "2016-06-09T14:45:34Z")

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> [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](#):
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> In this case, I’m guessing it’s reality that decides. The election is in November and there is a finite amount of time between now and then and the clock is running. He’s got about 5 months tops. That is a narrow window of time. Are you saying that if he changes a couple of years from now it’ll somehow affect this election? If not, narrow window of time

_I_ am not saying anything of the sort. It’s the pundits and party hacks in the media who keep saying, ‘He has a couple of weeks to change his rhetoric …’. As if a couple of weeks from his last racist set of remarks is some sort of magical number within which to offer a retraction and officially stop acting like a buffoon in order to clean the slate.

The time to have done that was before he started his campaign.

The only meaningful date coming up, before the November election is the RNC convention.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-an-apology-enough/756838/48 "2016-06-09T14:59:33Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> _I_ am not saying anything of the sort. It’s the pundits and party hacks in the media who keep saying, ‘He has a couple of weeks to change his rhetoric …’. As if a couple of weeks from his last racist set of remarks is some sort of magical number within which to offer a retraction and officially stop acting like a buffoon in order to clean the slate.
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> The time to have done that was before he started his campaign.
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> The only meaningful date coming up, before the November election is the RNC convention.

I think they mean by the convention. I think they feel like the narrative will be set by then, and funding opportunities lost.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-an-apology-enough/756838/49 "2016-06-09T15:41:57Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> So an elderly Black woman said I spoke English well. What should have my response have been? “Of course I can you dumb bitch?” Perhaps, I should have screamed her in her face that she was a racist? People need to stop being so sensitive.

Not exactly.

If she had said to you, “Foreigners like you can’t be trusted to come up with a correct analogy”, I believe then you would have been well within your right to call her a racist.

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