# Is 'Anti-Racist' just a Codeword For Anti-White??

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 9, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270 "2013-04-09T23:44:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![White\_Survivalist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@White\_Survivalist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Survivalist)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/281 "2013-04-11T16:10:24Z")

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“Conspiracy theory” is an absolutely meaningless term that serves no function but to shut down debate.

It is a slur propagated by the wealthy and powerful to discredit anyone who pays attention to what they are doing with their wealth and power. That’s all. Nothing more.

Tell me. Do you think filthy-rich people like George Soros use their money for political activism or not?

If not, you are hopelessly naïve.

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/282 "2013-04-11T16:10:48Z")

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> [@White\_Survivalist](#):
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> Just recently, the city of Pheonix decided that there were[too many White lifeguards](http://www.npr.org/2013/03/28/175571277/in-phoenix-a-new-quest-for-diverse-public-pool-lifeguards), so they went to “minority” high schools to recruit non-whites who can’t even swim to replace these lifeguards.
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> Why don’t you ask them who’s white?
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> Not too long ago, the police force in London was said to be “[stubbornly white](http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article3663329.ece).” Why don’t you ask this author how he knows who is white and who isn’t.
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> You White genocide supporters never tell anti-whites there is no such thing as a white race when they are attacking us. You only do that when whites try to defend ourselves.
> 
> Moreover, you never ask Jewish advocates “Who’s Jewish?” You never ask black advocates, “Who’s black?” You never ask La Raza (“The Race”) activists “Who’s Hispanic”?
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> No, you only do that to White people because you support White genocide and don’t want Whites to be able to organize a resistance to our own extermination.

Nice dodge but please answer my question. What exactly is “White”?

**Capt**

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/283 "2013-04-11T16:11:02Z")

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It must be pretty difficult to have such a weak and pathetic culture that all it takes is a good fuck to shatter it irreparably. I dunno about yours but my ‘white’ culture (and I say it like that because I never think of it in terms of skin color but in terms of familial connections, heritage and customs) is pretty banging and I don’t see any evidence its being displaced or destroyed by anything.

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**Author:** ![White\_Survivalist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@White\_Survivalist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Survivalist)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/284 "2013-04-11T16:11:57Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> So there are more Jewish “treasonous international elites” than white, black, and Asians? Is this an absolute majority, or just a plurality?

I don’t know what difference does it make?

The exact ethnic makeup of anti-whites pushing White genocide is totally beside the point.

You are just trying to sidetrack the discussion because you cannot answer the charge of White genocide.

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**Author:** ![Scholar\_Beardpig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@Scholar\_Beardpig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scholar_Beardpig)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/285 "2013-04-11T16:13:40Z")

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> [@White\_Survivalist](#):
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> Already answered upthread. Here is a quote by an anti-White Jew who wants to reduce Australia to a colony of China:
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> “The strengthening of multicultural or diverse Australia is also our most effective insurance policy against anti-Semitism. The day Australia has a Chinese Australian Governor General I would be more confident of my freedom to live as a Jewish Australian.” -Miriam Faine, editor of the Australian Jewish Democrat

I must be stupid, but I’m going to need you to spell out, in explicit, obvious steps, such that a child could understand, the connection between that quote and your point.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/286 "2013-04-11T16:15:48Z")

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> [@White\_Survivalist](#):
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> “The strengthening of multicultural or diverse Australia is also our most effective insurance policy against anti-Semitism. The day Australia has a Chinese Australian Governor General I would be more confident of my freedom to live as a Jewish Australian.” -Miriam Faine, editor of the Australian Jewish Democrat

Then why doesn’t he prefer a Australian Jewish Democrat Chinese Australian Governor General?

Regards,  
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/287 "2013-04-11T16:16:39Z")

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> [@White\_Survivalist](#):
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> I don’t know what difference does it make?
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> The exact ethnic makeup of anti-whites pushing White genocide is totally beside the point.

You made a claim that members of a pretty tiny group, internationally, (Jews, that is), are the biggest part of the “treasonous international elites” that are organizing white genocide. That’s a particularly specific claim about a very small group. I’m just trying to get to the bottom of it.

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> You are just trying to sidetrack the discussion because you cannot answer the charge of White genocide.

Yes I can- it’s not happening.

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**Author:** ![White\_Survivalist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@White\_Survivalist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Survivalist)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/288 "2013-04-11T16:17:59Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> It must be pretty difficult to have such a weak and pathetic culture that all it takes is a good fuck to shatter it irreparably. I dunno about yours but my ‘white’ culture (and I say it like that because I never think of it in terms of skin color but in terms of familial connections, heritage and customs) is pretty banging and I don’t see any evidence its being displaced or destroyed by anything.

You know it is impossible to reason with anti-whites, because no matter what you say, anti-whites always find a way to use it to ridicule your heritage and culture.

If I say I want to protect my culture, anti-whites accuse me of White supremacy, i.e. thinking my culture is superior. Then anti-whites turn around and say the exact opposite, that I must think my culture is inferior.

The truth is that [Robert Putnam](http://www.amazon.com/Bowling-Alone-Collapse-American-Community/dp/0743203046), a liberal Harvard Professor, has proven conclusively that diversity destroys communities. It is no longer a question open to dispute. More diversity not only alienates neighbors from those unlike themselves, but even people of \*their own ethnic group. \*

Therefore, anyone who demands that all white communities become “diverse” is, in effect, demanding that all white communities be destroyed, i.e. genocide.

I will remind you again of Raphael Lemkin’s formulation of genocide in his seminal [volume](http://www.amazon.com/Axis-Rule-Occupied-Europe-Foundations/dp/1584779012) on the subject:

“Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups.”

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**Author:** ![White\_Survivalist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@White\_Survivalist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Survivalist)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/289 "2013-04-11T16:19:11Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> You made a claim that members of a pretty tiny group, internationally, (Jews, that is), are the biggest part of the “treasonous international elites” that are organizing white genocide. That’s a particularly specific claim about a very small group. I’m just trying to get to the bottom of it.
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> Yes I can- it’s not happening.

Yes it is. You are just denying it because you agree with it and want it to continue.

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**Author:** ![White\_Survivalist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@White\_Survivalist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Survivalist)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/290 "2013-04-11T16:20:44Z")

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> [@Capt\_Kirk](#):
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> Nice dodge but please answer my question. What exactly is “White”?
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> **Capt**

I would be happy too, as soon as you condemn the constant attacks on White people, whom you claim are just a “social construct”, as racist anti-white bigotry.

Go ahead I’ll look forward to your answer.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/291 "2013-04-11T16:22:02Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> It must be pretty difficult to have such a weak and pathetic culture that all it takes is a good fuck to shatter it irreparably.

Well, to be fair, I can’t think of anything that a really good fuck can’t shatter.

“Let’s see - I can preserve the purity of my White race for all generations and the well-being of humanity, or boink Beyonce.”

Hmmm.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![White\_Survivalist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@White\_Survivalist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Survivalist)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/292 "2013-04-11T16:22:52Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> And I for one welcome our new cute and charming **Shodan** Jr. overlords.
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> So it’s actually not like the China and Tibet thing. And you’re still not explaining the international elite conspiracy thing. Who’s doing it and why?

What difference does it make? The nature and identity of the wrongdoers has nothing whatsoever to do with the wrongness of the action. Why is deliberately destroying someone’s culture wrong if a country does it but okay if stateless international elites do it?

It makes no difference whatsoever. The point is that the act itself, the demographic swamping, is wrong and a genocidal assault on the Tibetan people.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/293 "2013-04-11T16:27:18Z")

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> [@White\_Survivalist](#):
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> Why is deliberately destroying someone’s culture wrong if a country does it but okay if stateless international elites do it?

I note you haven’t addressed my point. Possibly you didn’t understand it.

Both my children are different from me racially. Both of them are fully American in their culture. Are they engaging in genocide against whites, or not?

Need answer fast - my daughter will be home from school shortly, and I need to know whether or not to let her borrow the car.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/294 "2013-04-11T16:27:48Z")

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> [@White\_Survivalist](#):
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> Therefore, anyone who demands that all white communities become “diverse” is, in effect, demanding that all white communities be destroyed, i.e. genocide.

And the other communities? Why are they not equally destroyed? Answer: because this is some jacked up logic.

And I don’t know or care who either Putnam nor Lemkin are.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/295 "2013-04-11T16:30:17Z")

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> [@White\_Survivalist](#):
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> Why is deliberately destroying someone’s culture wrong if a country does it but okay if stateless international elites do it?

Who are these stateless international elites you are talking about?

Do they have a website where they are making these demands?

Do you have any evidence of them acting out their terrible plot against my white ass?

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/296 "2013-04-11T16:31:29Z")

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Well you fall apart in your second line:

> [@](#):
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> They say the RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY white countries.

“They” say this because “they” realize that, from observing the world and migratory trends, this is the only way the races will assimilate. There is no trend of white people moving in droves to India, Mexico, the Phillipines, etc. If they said in order to solve the race problem whites must move in droves to third world countries they would not be taken seriously, because it would contradict all observed behavior of at least the last 150-200 years.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/297 "2013-04-11T16:32:22Z")

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> [@White\_Survivalist](#):
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> [Six hundred thousand](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9888310/Lets-talk-about-the-exodus-of-600000-whites-from-London.html) indigenous White British people have been run out of London in the past ten years. This is the same pattern of ethnic cleansing, called “white flight” by anti-whites who blame white people for moving to avoid non-white crime, that we have already seen in most major cities in the US.

Whoops! You seem to have confused “being forceably driven off of my own land at gunpoint” with “freely choosing to move to the suburbs to get away from those scary scary darkies that have started moving in.”

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/298 "2013-04-11T16:32:36Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> There is no trend of white people moving in droves to India, Mexico, the Phillipines, etc.

**Any more.**

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/299 "2013-04-11T16:34:31Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> You made a claim that members of a pretty tiny group, internationally, (Jews, that is), are the biggest part of the “treasonous international elites” that are organizing white genocide. That’s a particularly specific claim about a very small group. I’m just trying to get to the bottom of it.

How strange that one group that was the target of a genocide and another that was victimized by centuries of commercial slavery are now the center of the conspiracy. That sounds more like paranoia or displaced guilt than anything else, but the evidence for the conspiracy is so strong… it’s almost as strong as the argument ‘Jews intermarry at a high rate, which is proof they’re manipulating the system so they can marry their own kind.’

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**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/300 "2013-04-11T16:39:35Z")

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> [@White\_Survivalist](#):
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> I would be happy too, as soon as you condemn the constant attacks on White people, whom you claim are just a “social construct”, as racist anti-white bigotry.
> 
> Go ahead I’ll look forward to your answer.

You betcha. I unequivocally condemn Bigotry in all it’s forms, yes even anti white bigotry. I have even accused my Congress Critter, Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Houston) of anti white bigotry. Fair enough?

Now, I am of Scot/German descent with a little Native American, am I “White”? Carmen and I have children, she is Spanish(Manchega) are our children “White”?

Are Catholics “White”? Slavs?

Enquiring Minds want to know

**Capt**

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