# Is 'Anti-Racist' just a Codeword For Anti-White?? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 9, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270 "2013-04-09T23:44:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/361 "2013-04-11T18:10:12Z")
> [@White\_Survivalist](#): > > If that’s true, then why can’t we talk about White genocide. If you are so sure nobody agrees with us, why must we be censored? You’re not censored- you’re laughed at. There’s a difference. Talk away. ---
**Author:** ![EverwonderWhy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EverwonderWhy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EverwonderWhy)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/362 "2013-04-11T18:10:19Z")
I am curious too, regarding\*\* Ibn Warraq\*\* and\*\* iiandyiiii\*\* questions regarding what is considered ‘white’. My partner is Maltese which is considered European, however his appearance is like a Turk or Armenian. He also speaks Maltese (a language descended from [Siculo-Arabic or Sicilian Arabic](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siculo-Arabic)) So, is he considered “white” by your standards, White Survivalist? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/363 "2013-04-11T18:13:44Z")
> [@White\_Survivalist](#): > > What other people do you believe have a culture that needs to be “strengthened” by forced assimilation with racially dissimilar aliens? I want to strengthen all cultures. I think humanity is stronger in a diverse society, with lots of different groups and lots of different ways of thinking. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/364 "2013-04-11T18:15:36Z")
Is this like a tag team of “proud of our whiteness” dudes? New member **White Survivalist** jumps in at the top of page 4 and **formulaone** is no longer heard from. Is this “I dare you to go argue with liberals” day over at St_ **fr** _? ---
**Author:** ![White\_Survivalist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@White\_Survivalist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Survivalist)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/365 "2013-04-11T18:16:42Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > It is racist to say that it’s important to make sure that the ‘white race’ - whatever the hell that is, stays white. Because only someone who thought race was important would say that. > > It’s also racist to say that it’s important to make sure that the black race or the Jewish race remains black or Jewish or whatever. > > It’s not racist to say that it’s imporant to make sure that no one - including ‘whites’ - is subject to genocide. But people mixing by choice isn’t genocide, it’s life. Fair enough. So you believe that any White person who wants White people to continue to exist is a “racist.” Just so we’re clear on exactly what that genocidal anti-white epithet means. Of course, you and your “anti-racist” friends will never lift a finger to try to eliminate “racism” among anyone but whites. You just hypocritically pay lip service to universalism while ALWAYS targeting whites and ONLY Whites for your “anti-racist” propaganda. ACTIONS speak louder than words. It is not mixing by choice, It is FORCED. Whites have NO freedom of association. We are FORCED integrate our countries, schools, churches, neighborhoods, etc. on pain of total personal ruin if not prison. Now, one White couple was even [DENIED the right to adopt a White child](http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Security/?id=3.1.313676767). There is even talk of literally attempting to ["cure"](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/13/can-the-heart-and-blood-pressure-pill-propranolol-cure-racism.html)White people of our natural preference for our own kind. Notice only WHITE people were used as guinea pigs for this [sick and twisted experiment in misanthropy](http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/18/brain-scans-detect-racism-_n_2506403.html#s1696044&title=Your_Brain_Is). That’s because only White people have been targeted for genocide, not other races. Now, what was that you were saying about “choice”? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/366 "2013-04-11T18:17:12Z")
> [@White\_Survivalist](#): > > Sure I do, and I know that White Americans have been running around trying to escape diversity for going on three generations now. > [@The\_Hamster\_King](#): > > That doesn’t sound like anyone I know. Haven’t you ever been to gated community? ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/367 "2013-04-11T18:17:13Z")
> [@White\_Survivalist](#): > > …The fact that you continue to deny White genocide in face of all the evidence just shows that you are denying it because you support it and want it to continue. No, the\*\* fact\*\* is that the White genocide you describe does not exist. If it did, why would I support it? Suicide has never been one of my weaknesses… ---
**Author:** ![White\_Survivalist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@White\_Survivalist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Survivalist)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/368 "2013-04-11T18:17:44Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I want to strengthen all cultures. I think humanity is stronger in a diverse society, with lots of different groups and lots of different ways of thinking. You still have not explained to me how White genocide furthers “diversity.” ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/369 "2013-04-11T18:17:48Z")
> [@White\_Survivalist](#): > > You have not refuted anything I have said. What’s to refute? You haven’t supported anything you have said. You’ve tried to reinvent the definition of genocide, made assertions about a conspiracy that you can’t support - 9/11 Truthers and Holocaust deniers often make better efforts - and since that’s not working, you’re endlessly repeating the word “denier” as if that’s going to put anyone on the defensive. I’ve never scored a knockout in shadowboxing either, but what does that matter? ---
**Author:** ![EverwonderWhy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EverwonderWhy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EverwonderWhy)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/370 "2013-04-11T18:19:40Z")
> [@EverwonderWhy](#): > > I am curious too, regarding\*\* Ibn Warraq\*\* and\*\* iiandyiiii\*\* questions regarding what is considered ‘white’. My partner is Maltese which is considered European, however his appearance is like a Turk or Armenian. He also speaks Maltese (a language descended from [Siculo-Arabic or Sicilian Arabic](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siculo-Arabic)) So, is he considered “white” by your standards, White Survivalist? Oh oh, needed to add that we have a Maltese dog that is\* all white\* - if that aids in ‘white’ classification. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/371 "2013-04-11T18:19:45Z")
> [@White\_Survivalist](#): > > It is not mixing by choice, It is FORCED. Whites have NO freedom of association. We are FORCED integrate our countries, schools, churches, neighborhoods, etc. on pain of total personal ruin if not prison. Conveniently, most white people are happy to integrate their countries, school, churches, and neighborhoods. FORCED- you keep using that word… I don’t think it means what you think it means. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Survivalist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@White\_Survivalist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Survivalist)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/372 "2013-04-11T18:20:27Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > You’re not censored- you’re laughed at. There’s a difference. Talk away. Nonsense. White advocates are labeled “extremist” for opposing White genocide, and the [mainstream media](http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-stein19-2008dec19,0,4676183.column) refuses to allow White advocates to participate in public dialogue. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Survivalist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@White\_Survivalist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Survivalist)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/373 "2013-04-11T18:22:50Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Conveniently, most white people are happy to integrate their countries, school, churches, and neighborhoods. > > FORCED- you keep using that word… I don’t think it means what you think it means. No they’re not. They don’t believe they have any choice. Its called [learned helplessness.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness) Even if you are right that they agree, it doesn’t matter because they have no exposure to any point of view but officially-approved multiculturalism. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/374 "2013-04-11T18:23:13Z")
> [@White\_Survivalist](#): > > You still have not explained to me how White genocide furthers “diversity.” In fairness, you haven’t explained how diversity furthers white genocide, either. I mean, if I marry a black woman, and we have a kid together, how is my kid not white? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/375 "2013-04-11T18:23:29Z")
Please learn the definition of “censor”. It’s not"People find your arguments offensively stupid, and as a result they won’t devote space in the media they own, to help you spew your racism." ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/376 "2013-04-11T18:23:47Z")
> [@White\_Survivalist](#): > > You still have not explained to me how White genocide furthers “diversity.” It doesn’t. But the voluntary increasing diversity and increasing inter-ethnic associations, whether by marriage or friendship or other (which do not constitute genocide) strengthen white people and non-white people by exposing them to different ways of thinking about the world. A static group of very similar people doesn’t have the flexibility of action against difficult situations that a group of people with very different backgrounds. It’s similar to the principle of “hybrid vigor”- too much inbreeding dulls the faculties of the next generation, and fresh blood, so to speak, can bring out some new traits that might be helpful. Nothing forced about it- it’s all voluntary. If you don’t like the neighborhood you live in, move to the woods in Idaho, and you’ll find a lot of like-minded people. You have the freedom to decide. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/377 "2013-04-11T18:26:57Z")
> [@White\_Survivalist](#): > > Nonsense. > > White advocates are labeled “extremist” for opposing White genocide, and the [mainstream media](http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-stein19-2008dec19,0,4676183.column) refuses to allow White advocates to participate in public dialogue. Flat-earthers aren’t censored, they’re laughed at. Flat-earthers don’t get on the mainstream media, because they’re considered so absurd that it would be pointless. Similarly, people who spout off about “white genocide” aren’t censored, they’re laughed at. You don’t get on the mainstream media because your beliefs are considered to be ridiculous by most of society. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/378 "2013-04-11T18:29:55Z")
> [@White\_Survivalist](#): > > \ Until you explain to white people what your perfect world would do with all of the non-white people they care about (and a great majority of white people, at least in America, have non-white people that they care about, whether in their family or friends), then all your claims will be met with scorn and derision. I don’t know if you’d say that I’m white, but let’s pretend I am- in your perfect world, what happens to all the non-white people I love and care about? Unless your plan doesn’t end up in bad things happening to them, then I have no choice but to oppose you. And the best opposition can be mockery, in cases like this. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/379 "2013-04-11T18:35:27Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Flat-earthers aren’t censored, they’re laughed at. Flat-earthers don’t get on the mainstream media, because they’re considered so absurd that it would be pointless. Similarly, people who spout off about “white genocide” aren’t censored, they’re laughed at. You don’t get on the mainstream media because your beliefs are considered to be ridiculous by most of society. And none of us feel the need to explain in great detail why the flat earthers are wrong. Because they obviously are… ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/380 "2013-04-11T18:48:58Z")
Ok I am going to try this again I look “White”, light skin, blue eyes, blonde/gray hair. Scot/German plus Native American from 2 great great grandmothers(full blood). Am I “White”? I really want to know about my potential children with the Spanish Mother, she has brownish skin, dark eyes and hair and can trace her Spanish lineage back several hundred years. In your opinion, am I white? Is she? How about our children? **Capt** Also please explain what a DNA test will tell me WRT my whiteness [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270.md?page=20)