# Is 'Anti-Racist' just a Codeword For Anti-White?? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 9, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270 "2013-04-09T23:44:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/821 "2013-04-17T12:25:52Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Am I the only one who thought that link was going to go to a picture of Bjork? No. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/822 "2013-04-17T18:33:51Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Let’s start with Iceland. Whitest population on Earth, assuming [elves](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_Elf_School) count as white. [So white, as a matter of fact, that there is an app to make sure your whiteness isn’t too white.](http://www.digitaltrends.com/social-media/icelands-anti-incest-app-is-gross-but-necessary/) ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/823 "2013-04-17T20:18:20Z")
> [@AssemblyLineHuman](#): > > Yet so far, no one has been able to put forward a position that doesn’t amount to ALL white nations becoming assimilated out through mass immigration and assimilation. > > Very simply, if ALL white nations must take in non-whites, and assimilate, then white people are assimilated out. It almost sounds like resistance is futile. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/824 "2013-04-17T20:33:43Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > It almost sounds like resistance is futile. So in this universe, the Borg are sexy black guys/girls who show up and say “Hey, baby, prepare to be assimilated!” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/825 "2013-04-17T20:56:34Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > So in this universe, the Borg are sexy black guys/girls who show up and say “Hey, baby, prepare to be assimilated!” No, no. You seem to have missed his point. They’ll say, “Hey, baby; prepare to be assimilated _out_!” ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/826 "2013-04-17T21:01:47Z")
But see, that’s why it’s so nefariously brilliant. It isn’t _you_ that’s being assimilated out. You’re just being seduced by the lure of (possibly Jewish) hotties. It’s your children, your poor, poor forever-not-White children, who have been assimilated right out of the White Race, forever. Truly, once you go black, you never go back. ---
**Author:** ![pjnlsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e8c25b/32.png) [@pjnlsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjnlsn)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/827 "2013-04-18T04:39:51Z")
> [@formulaone](#): > > Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White countries for Everybody. > They say the RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY white countries. > The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but they don’t say Japan or Taiwan will solve the RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and ” assimilating ” with them. > They say the final solution to the RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites. > What if I said there was a RACE problem, and the solution to this RACE problem was to bring hundreds of millions of non-blacks into EVERY black country and ONLY black countries? > How long would it take them to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem? > And how long would it take black people to notice this, and what sane black man wouldn’t object to this “solution”? > But when I tell the obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, liberals AND respectable conservatives agree that I’m a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews. > They say they are anti-racist, what they are is anti-white. > Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white. > > When I first came across this message I was kind of skeptical…but as I started to analyze and research many different White countries and the massive numbers of non-White peoples that are being led into those countries, I began to see some relevance to this whole statement. I mean if Tibetan people need to be protected from this sort of genocide, why not White countries as well. Why is this standard not also applied to White people in White countries??? > > Thanks To call slow blending of different ethnicities in a multicultural society ‘genocide’ is absolutely ridiculous. Besides, culture itself began to blend together on a global scale not long ago. Ethnic blending is just following suit. ---
**Author:** ![AssemblyLineHuman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5e925/32.png) [@AssemblyLineHuman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AssemblyLineHuman)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/828 "2013-04-18T10:01:06Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > Oh, cut the nonsense, will you? Or at least admit that you don’t know what you’re talking about.No one? Really? No one? Are you kidding me? I personally know people living in both the US and Japan who complain about Japan’s problems with race, xenophobia, discrimination, and diversity. Heck, even I admit it. For example, try to get an apartment in Japan as a non Japanese person without hoshonin (保証人), which is someone, preferably Japanese, who will vouch for you, and see how successful you are. Some are unable to rent apartments even with hoshonin. There are bars and nightclubs in Tokyo that are ‘Japanese Only’. How would anyone know about these issues if ‘_ **no one** says Japan has a race problem?_’ There are many other issues Japan is grappling with when it comes to foreigners, some of which are being addressed better than others. > > Really, it is a simple task to check out the hundreds of YouTube videos from people who talk about Japan’s problems with race and foreigners. Do I really need to link to the hundreds, if not thousands, of articles and blogs from people who are vocally dissatisfied with Japan’s policies toward foreigners? > > Others in this very thread have referred to discrimination suffered by Japan’s Korean community, which is also well known and widely discussed. > > The mixing is happening inside Japan as well. Although citizenship is not an option in most cases, many Americans move to Japan every year, marry a Japanese native, and have biracial kids. > > Your points about Japan are not only wrong, they’re imbecilic, as a simple search proves that your “no one” turns out to be thousands of people. > > Now, you’re free to once again move the goalposts, and respond with something I haven’t even discussed but, before you do, understand that if a portion of a thesis is found to be flawed, which yours about Japan certainly is, the balance is suspect. > > You’ve made a lot of claims in this thread, have provided proof for none of it, yet somehow you expect others to take your contentions at face value, just because you’ve made them. If someone dares ask you a question, you call them anti-white which, I must tell you, is extremely offensive, not to mention completely false. You refuse to answer direct questions put to you, yet demand others respond to yours. You repeat yourself constantly as though you have no ability nor desire to engage in debate or conversation, which causes me to wonder what your actual purpose here is. Don’t worry, I’m not expecting an answer; you seem to be incapable of providing one. > > Wrong. Completely, utterly wrong. But go ahead, continue in your quest to spread foolishness. Thankfully the members of this board are immune. No, I haven’t heard it. I’ve heard claims about xenophobia, Japanese being insular yet be no one, no one saying that the Japenese must lose their homogeniety to solve this problem. No one posits that mass immigration and intermarriage is the solution. No one is ‘waiting for the day that Japan is no longer Japanese’. But lets say they did promote this for Japan, as they do white white countries. It is calling for Genocide. Any by trying to show how Japan is the ‘same’, you are trying to continue justifying genocide. And thats all that anti-whites are trying to do here, justifying Genocide by trying to destroy any opposition. The point about ALL white countries being expected to have non discriminatory and liberal immigration policies, and these white countries being expected to assimilate stands. The point that if anyone objects to this, they are ‘racist’ and ‘wrong’, stands. You are justifying why white people must not object to their race being assimilated out, why they shouldn’t object, and why they should just go along. And in the end, instead of coming up with an argument that does not amount to white Genocide, you try to justify it even further, by saying that perhaps other races of people may be mixed out. I’m done here. Go tell the Japanese that there is a problem with Japan being ethnically Japanese, and that they should accept being assimilated out to fix that.. Try to justify it by saying that white countries are doing it to. They’ll accuse you of the same thing we are, and with good reason. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/829 "2013-04-18T10:15:34Z")
Yawn. More repetitive gibberish. There is no genocide, no one is saying that “whites” (whoever they are) have to interbreed with “non-whites” (whoever they are). Your entire line of argument is just a repetitive collection of memorized or outright copy-and-pasted racist talking points; fantasies that have no connection with the real world and aren’t convincing anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/830 "2013-04-18T10:22:38Z")
> [@AssemblyLineHuman](#): > > No, I haven’t heard it. I’ve heard claims about xenophobia, Japanese being insular yet be no one, no one saying that the Japenese must lose their homogeniety to solve this problem. That’ll be the fingers you’ve stuck in your ears. > [@](#): > > No one posits that mass immigration and intermarriage is the solution. No one is ‘waiting for the day that Japan is no longer Japanese’. This is ludicrous. Who the hell is seriously proposing that “mass immigation and intermarriage” are the solutions **anywhere**? Even the most liberal proponents of immigrant rights are not suggesting open borders and certainly not forced intermarriage. They’re suggesting the same thing for every country: that _some_ immigration is good for a country. And no one is mandating intermarriage. Really, no one. Japan’s heavily restrictive (and, yes, racist) laws are openly damaging its economy whereas the US has been enriched economically and culturally by its various waves of immigration; why would you prefer Japan’s approach? And if occasionally the new immigrants intermarry with the waves that came before them, they’re not doing it at gunpoint\*, so your ridiculous conspiracy holds no water at all. You’re hysterical, man. And I don’t mean “funny”; I mean “subject to hysteria”. You’re afraid of the Other, afraid of becoming irrelevant, afraid of the darkness of your own damn shadow, and desperate to make others afraid too. You say you’re done here. Go on then - go and peddle your fears and biases and ignorance somewhere else. \*shotgun weddings notwithstanding. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/831 "2013-04-18T10:24:45Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > You’re hysterical, man. And I don’t mean “funny”; I mean “subject to hysteria”. You’re afraid of the Other, afraid of becoming irrelevant, afraid of the darkness of your own damn shadow, and desperate to make others afraid too. You say you’re done here. Go on then - go and peddle your fears and biases and ignorance somewhere else. Or even better, don’t peddle them anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/832 "2013-04-18T12:03:40Z")
> [@AssemblyLineHuman](#): > > No, I haven’t heard it. I’ve heard claims about xenophobia, Japanese being insular yet be no one, no one saying that the Japenese must lose their homogeniety to solve this problem. > > No one posits that mass immigration and intermarriage is the solution. No one is ‘waiting for the day that Japan is no longer Japanese’. > > But lets say they did promote this for Japan, as they do white white countries. > > It is calling for Genocide. > > Any by trying to show how Japan is the ‘same’, you are trying to continue justifying genocide. > And thats all that anti-whites are trying to do here, justifying Genocide by trying to destroy any opposition. > > The point about ALL white countries being expected to have non discriminatory and liberal immigration policies, and these white countries being expected to assimilate stands. > > The point that if anyone objects to this, they are ‘racist’ and ‘wrong’, stands. > > You are justifying why white people must not object to their race being assimilated out, why they shouldn’t object, and why they should just go along. > > And in the end, instead of coming up with an argument that does not amount to white Genocide, you try to justify it even further, by saying that perhaps other races of people may be mixed out. What is wrong with you? I took a pillar of your argument, that no one says Japan has a race problem, isolated it from all your other contentions, and tore it down. So you then do _exactly_ as I predicted and move the goalposts by stating “no one saying that the Japenese must lose their homogeniety…” which has absolutely nothing to do with your original point. As far as my justifying genocide, I did no such thing. I didn’t address any of the other nonsense you spouted in this thread. I could have, but I didn’t. My post, and read this very carefully, was a response to your contentions about Japan. Of course by easily proving those wrong, everything else you stated in this thread is suspect, but it’s not my problem that you presented an obvious falsehood to bolster your overall argument. You should have done your homework. Nothing you have stated in any of your posts in this thread stands, as you have provided no proof for any of it. What you have done, not surprisingly, is shown that you either simply make stuff up, or regurgitate content from biased sources without even a cursory attempt at verification, neither of which makes you look very good at all. > [@AssemblyLineHuman](#): > > I’m done here. Good. You’ve proven yourself unworthy of further engagement anyway. ---
**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/833 "2013-04-18T13:27:33Z")
I’ve never seen a white supremacist flounce before. It was purdy. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/834 "2013-04-18T13:46:22Z")
> [@AssemblyLineHuman](#): > > No one posits that mass immigration and intermarriage is the solution. No one is ‘waiting for the day that Japan is no longer Japanese’. No one is waiting, either, for the day when America is no longer American or France is no longer French. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/835 "2013-04-18T13:51:23Z")
> [@AssemblyLineHuman](#): > > The point about ALL white countries being expected to have non discriminatory and liberal immigration policies, and these white countries being expected to assimilate stands. “Expected” **by their own people,** N.B. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/836 "2013-04-18T13:53:14Z")
> [@AssemblyLineHuman](#): > > I’m done here. Is that a threat or a promise? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/837 "2013-04-18T15:03:19Z")
My guess? A tease. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/838 "2013-04-18T17:40:03Z")
BTW, at least one nonwhite country is even more racist than Japan: North Korea. Especially towards blacks, I’ve read. If Rodman had not been a guest of the Leader, he might not have gotten out alive. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/839 "2013-04-18T18:28:13Z")
Imagine if everyone interbred until all the races disappeared. My god, the entire human race would be genocide’d! ---
**Author:** ![Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boulter_s_Canary)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/840 "2013-04-18T20:54:17Z")
> [@AssemblyLineHuman](#): > > The point about ALL white countries being expected to have non discriminatory and liberal immigration policies, and these white countries being expected to assimilate stands. As I said before: - Expected by _whom_? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270.md?page=41) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270.md?page=43)