# Is 'Anti-Racist' just a Codeword For Anti-White?? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 9, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270 "2013-04-09T23:44:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/101 "2013-04-10T18:26:57Z")
And those white supremacists, of which I am not one, sure are handsome devils! They are much more handsome than we non-racists, are they not, my convinced friends? ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/102 "2013-04-10T19:13:31Z")
> [@formulaone](#): > > Well, in 1965 it was approximately 90% white, then the borders were systematically broken down so that massive amounts of non-white third world immigrants could be let in, such that, now in 2013 it is roughly 66% white. Come on people, these white people are not stupid and they can certainly see these kinds of stats all over the place; it’s something that we can’t hide any longer. The white dissident types are using this fact to demonstrate what the anti-whites at the top of, what they call, Greater Anglosphere want to do to ALL the other white countries, and they are calling this the genocide of white people. To the average white person this is very powerful, especially when they begin to realize the absolutely massive non-white on white violence that is so prevalent in those white countries that have had this non-white immigration forced on them. > > Thanks Most of the post '65 migration has come from Mexico and other Latin American countries. Mexicans are, on average, half European genetically, and entirely European culturally. Mexican immigration has increased the amount of European DNA and decreased the percentage of black American in the population. As Ibn Warraq pointed out, the immigration of North Africans and Middle Easterners into Europe has largely been a case of different flavors of Caucasians moving around. At any rate, make your appeal to the various nations of Europe to stop immigration if you have an issue. Leave the US out of it. The US was never a white nation. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/103 "2013-04-10T19:19:16Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > You may be referring to the ideas ascribed to various groups, but you are not being sufficiently clear that these comments are not directed toward other posters. Apologies. To make it crystal clear, that post was in no way, shape, or form intended to refer to any poster in this thread or on the board, including **formulaone** , and, so far, I have taken his claims at face value that the ideas expressed are those of various white supremacists he has encountered and not his own. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/104 "2013-04-10T19:24:48Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > Most of the post '65 migration has come from Mexico and other Latin American countries. Mexicans are, on average, half European genetically, and entirely European culturally. That first assertion is questionable (I’d have to see a cite before I’d believe it), and the second one is simply wrong. Mexicans are not “culturally” European. They are Mexican, which has its own culture. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/105 "2013-04-10T19:28:16Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > Mexicans are, on average, half European genetically, and entirely European culturally. Then how come Samuel Huntington’s [“Clash of Civilizations”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_Civilizations) theory classes both Europe (including Spain and Portugal) and the U.S. as parts of “Western” civilization, but posits a different and distinct “Latin American” civilization for everything south of the Rio Grande? Seriously, though, on other boards I’ve encountered a **lot** of denial and hostility whenever I assert the fairly obvious fact that Mexico, having a language, religion and culture derived from Europe, is just as much a part of “Western Civilization” as is the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/106 "2013-04-10T19:32:56Z")
> [@formulaone](#): > > Well, in 1965 it was approximately 90% white, then the borders were systematically broken down so that massive amounts of non-white third world immigrants could be let in . . . You mean to say, that the anachronistic and racist “national origins quota” system of the [Immigration Act of 1924](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924) (which was frankly and baldly designed to preserve America’s character as a white man’s country by favoring northwest-European immigrants over others) [was abolished.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965) Well, so it was; I certainly hope an anti-racist such as yourself would not have argued for its preservation. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/107 "2013-04-10T19:58:12Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Seriously, though, on other boards I’ve encountered a **lot** of denial and hostility whenever I assert the fairly obvious fact that Mexico, having a language, religion and culture derived from Europe, is just as much a part of “Western Civilization” as is the U.S. Because it’s not Western Civilization - it’s Northern Civilization. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/108 "2013-04-10T21:28:56Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > Most of the post '65 migration has come from Mexico and other Latin American countries. Currently, people from Latin America make up a bit more than half of the Foreign Born in the U.S., IF one includes immigrants from the Caribbean. I am not sure that I would call that “most”; YMMV. ```auto Region of birth . . . . . . . . .Population (1,000s) Pct of foreign born TOTAL. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .39,956 100% Africa . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,607 4% Asia . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .11,284 28% Europe . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4,817 12% Latin America and the Caribbean . . . . . 21,224 53% Mexico . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .11,711 29% Other Central America . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,053 7% South America . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,730 6% Caribbean . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,731 9% Northern America . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 807 2% Oceania . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .217 0% ``` [http://www.census.gov/prod/2012pubs/acs-19.pdf](http://www.census.gov/prod/2012pubs/acs-19.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/109 "2013-04-10T21:32:11Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Currently, people from Latin America make up a bit more than half of the Foreign Born in the U.S., IF one includes immigrants from the Caribbean. I am not sure that I would call that “most”; YMMV. > > ```auto > > Region of birth . . . . . . . . .Population (1,000s) Pct of foreign born > TOTAL. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .39,956 100% > Africa . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,607 4% > Asia . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .11,284 28% > Europe . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4,817 12% > Latin America and the Caribbean . . . . . 21,224 53% > Mexico . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .11,711 29% > Other Central America . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,053 7% > South America . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,730 6% > Caribbean . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,731 9% > Northern America . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 807 2% > Oceania . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .217 0% > > ``` > > [http://www.census.gov/prod/2012pubs/acs-19.pdf](http://www.census.gov/prod/2012pubs/acs-19.pdf) I guess that site only considers the US and Canada to be “North America”. ---
**Author:** ![formulaone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3da27b/32.png) [@formulaone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/formulaone)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/110 "2013-04-10T21:35:38Z")
But all of this misses the point by light years because the African people in Africa and the Asian people in Asia don’t have to carry on these kinds of tortuous arguments to justify massive massive racially dissimilar immigration into their own continents…BECAUSE NO ONE IS DEMANDING THAT MASSIVE RACIALLY DISSIMILAR IMMIGRANTS BE BROUGHT INTO THOSE CONTINENTS TO MAKE NEW BLENDED HUMANITIES ON THOSE CONTINENTS…WE ANTI-RACISTS ARE ONLY DOING THIS IN REGARD TO THE EUROPEAN CONTINENT AND THE AMERICAS. IT IS ONLY THESE WHITE COUNTRIES THAT WE WANT TO MAKE A NEW BLENDED HUMANITY SO THAT WE CAN BLEND OUT OF EXISTENCE WHAT IS GENERALLY TERMED THE WHITE RACE. The point I’m trying to make here people is that the arguments that we used to deploy against white people who tried to assert their own racial interests in the same way that Africans or Asians have been allowed to do are NO LONGER HAVING THE DESIRED EFFECT UPON THEIR THINKING SINCE THIS GODDAMNED MANTRA ENTERED THE SCENE A FEW YEARS AGO. When these white dissident types keep on reciting their saying: Anti-racist is just a codeword for anti-white…what they are really saying is that us anti-racists have at root an agenda that is injurious to white people and their countries and ONLY white people and their countries. In other words, they have come to understand that our whole anti-racist paradigm really specifically aims at altering white people and really only white people. Understand…THEY BELIEVE THIS, and WE HAVE TO ADJUST TO THEIR EMERGING NEW RACIAL SELF AWARENESS. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/111 "2013-04-10T21:39:44Z")
> [@formulaone](#): > > …THEY BELIEVE THIS, and WE HAVE TO ADJUST TO THEIR EMERGING NEW RACIAL SELF AWARENESS. No, we don’t. I’m just going to ignore the nice folks who are harping about the disappearance of the “white race”. You can, too, unless you by some chance happen to be one of them. I mean, you’re not, right? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/112 "2013-04-10T21:41:08Z")
Here’s the thing, **formulaone** …we AREN’T missing the point. We just don’t give a flying fuck. So white people get “diluted”. Who freakin’ CARES? Seriously! It’s an absurd thing to be concerned about, period. OMG, the color of my grandchildren’s skin might be vaguely latte-ish! ZOUNDS! Geez… ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/113 "2013-04-10T21:44:07Z")
> [@formulaone](#): > > THEY BELIEVE THIS, and WE HAVE TO ADJUST TO THEIR EMERGING NEW RACIAL SELF AWARENESS. You mean their mistaken beliefs. Because you don’t share them. Remember? ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/114 "2013-04-10T21:50:34Z")
> [@formulaone](#): > > But all of this misses the point by light years because the African people in Africa and the Asian people in Asia don’t have to carry on these kinds of tortuous arguments to justify massive massive racially dissimilar immigration into their own continents…BECAUSE NO ONE IS DEMANDING THAT MASSIVE RACIALLY DISSIMILAR IMMIGRANTS BE BROUGHT INTO THOSE CONTINENTS TO MAKE NEW BLENDED HUMANITIES ON THOSE CONTINENTS…WE ANTI-RACISTS ARE ONLY DOING THIS IN REGARD TO THE EUROPEAN CONTINENT AND THE AMERICAS. IT IS ONLY THESE WHITE COUNTRIES THAT WE WANT TO MAKE A NEW BLENDED HUMANITY SO THAT WE CAN BLEND OUT OF EXISTENCE WHAT IS GENERALLY TERMED THE WHITE RACE. The point I’m trying to make here people is that the arguments that we used to deploy against white people who tried to assert their own racial interests in the same way that Africans or Asians have been allowed to do are NO LONGER HAVING THE DESIRED EFFECT UPON THEIR THINKING SINCE THIS GODDAMNED MANTRA ENTERED THE SCENE A FEW YEARS AGO. When these white dissident types keep on reciting their saying: Anti-racist is just a codeword for anti-white…what they are really saying is that us anti-racists have at root an agenda that is injurious to white people and their countries and ONLY white people and their countries. In other words, they have come to understand that our whole anti-racist paradigm really specifically aims at altering white people and really only white people. Understand…THEY BELIEVE THIS, and WE HAVE TO ADJUST TO THEIR EMERGING NEW RACIAL SELF AWARENESS. > > Thanks Will you please stop talking past everyone in this thread and engage in a conversation? What is a white country? Define it. And as has been asked a number of times, which countries are white countries? Also note that interspersing phrases in all caps throughout your posts actually makes them more difficult to parse and understand, not easier. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/115 "2013-04-10T21:53:30Z")
OK, I’ll admit it. I want to see white people blended with other races. Mixed race chicks are hot!! ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/116 "2013-04-10T22:03:05Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I guess that site only considers the US and Canada to be “North America”. To be fair, the site refers to “Northern America,” so it includes only Canada and St Pierre & Miquelon. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/117 "2013-04-10T22:15:31Z")
You know, I don’t think that we will ever have to worry about races / ethnicities completely “blending” or disappearing. Sure, interracial or interethnic couplings will increase as more people of divergent backgrounds meet, but I think the vast majority of people will always tend to marry people of their own culture / race / group. What do you guys think? Am I right or wrong? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/118 "2013-04-10T22:18:09Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > You mean their mistaken beliefs. Because you don’t share them. Remember? Slow news week, eh? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/119 "2013-04-10T22:18:39Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > You know, I don’t think that we will ever have to worry about races / ethnicities completely “blending” or disappearing. Sure, interracial or interethnic couplings will increase as more people of divergent backgrounds meet, but I think the vast majority of people will always tend to marry people of their own culture / race / group. > > What do you guys think? Am I right or wrong? I think you’re wrong- “vast majority” has already become “majority”, and with more and more mixed-race people (and reduced social boundaries), I believe “majority” will become “plurality”, and eventually only a small percentage of the population on Earth (IMO) would be visually identified as black or white (or any other group other than “mixed”) today. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270/120 "2013-04-10T22:20:01Z")
> [@formulaone](#): > > But all of this misses the point by light years because the African people in Africa and the Asian people in Asia don’t have to carry on these kinds of tortuous arguments to justify massive massive racially dissimilar immigration into their own continents…BECAUSE NO ONE IS DEMANDING THAT MASSIVE RACIALLY DISSIMILAR IMMIGRANTS BE BROUGHT INTO THOSE CONTINENTS TO MAKE NEW BLENDED HUMANITIES ON THOSE CONTINENTS I would have hoped that you were aware that the most powerful people who are promoting the immigration of non-white people to “white” (whatever that means, since you refuse to define it), countries are acting on economic principles, not “racial” principles. After the “white” people overran and depopulated the Americas and Australia and conquered Southern Africa, they (forcibly) imported “black” people to the Americas as cheap labor, then encouraged “yellow” immigration to North America for more cheap labor, and recently encouraged “white” (but not quite white enough) people to immigrate to Europe for cheap labor. You seem to be mad at the wrong people–go express your anger at corporations that are promoting immigration for cheap labor. (Although, I think you ought to be happy that “they” (whoever they are) are looking at “blended” populations, given that the alternative, based on “white” history, would be the elimination of the “white” people. I am curious, however, [QUOTE=formulaone] The point I’m trying to make here people is that the arguments that we used to deploy against white people who tried to assert their own racial interests in the same way that Africans or Asians have been allowed to do are NO LONGER HAVING THE DESIRED EFFECT UPON THEIR THINKING SINCE THIS GODDAMNED MANTRA ENTERED THE SCENE A FEW YEARS AGO. [/quote] as to where the Africans or Asians are “allowed” to make these arguments (and what arguments are you talking about?) that cause you so much consternation? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anti-racist-just-a-codeword-for-anti-white/655270.md?page=7)