# Is any American "a waste"?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-american-a-waste/807450>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 25, 2018, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-american-a-waste/807450 "2018-01-25T15:10:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-american-a-waste/807450/121 "2018-01-28T19:36:33Z")

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> [@Euphrosyne](#):
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> I am a traditional and pro-life Catholic, who assents to everything the Church believes and teaches. And I’ve done volunteer outreach to the homeless and to immigrants.

By “traditional”, would that be the pre-Vatican II type of traditional Catholic? Just curious.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-american-a-waste/807450/122 "2018-01-28T19:48:35Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I’m saying, communication is a two way street and the poster you’re white-nighting needs to take responsibility for her passive aggressive driving.
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> People here aren’t generally stupid and for most this isn’t their first time at the rodeo.

I only white knight when its several on one for no good reason other than to silence opinions they don’t like. Even if she is being passive aggressive some of you are being aggressive aggressive. Attack her arguments but not her or her posting style imo.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-american-a-waste/807450/123 "2018-01-28T20:42:16Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> I only white knight when its several on one for no good reason other than to silence opinions they don’t like. Even if she is being passive aggressive some of you are being aggressive aggressive. Attack her arguments but not her or her posting style imo.

Hope to hear from you again soon.

Love, **monstro**

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**Author:** ![Euphrosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d9b06d/32.png) [@Euphrosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphrosyne)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-american-a-waste/807450/124 "2018-01-28T20:44:46Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> By “traditional”, would that be the pre-Vatican II type of traditional Catholic? Just curious.

Hi, Guinastasia, I’m sorry to be rude, but I don’t feel good about being here. I’m gone.

Good-bye, and God bless us every one. Love, Euphrosyne.

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**Author:** ![Euphrosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d9b06d/32.png) [@Euphrosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphrosyne)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-american-a-waste/807450/125 "2018-01-28T20:48:28Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> I only white knight when its several on one for no good reason other than to silence opinions they don’t like. Even if she is being passive aggressive some of you are being aggressive aggressive. Attack her arguments but not her or her posting style imo.

Thanks, madsircool, for being one of the good guys. I really appreciate what you’ve tried to do, and only wish the moderators might have been a little more proactive. But it is what it is.

I don’t feel that spending time here is a good use of my time. So I’ll say good-bye.

And thank you again. Love, Euphrosyne.

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**Author:** ![chaika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chaika/32/405_2.png) [@chaika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaika)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-american-a-waste/807450/126 "2018-01-28T21:11:40Z")

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Vaya con Dios.

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**Author:** ![Euphrosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d9b06d/32.png) [@Euphrosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphrosyne)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-american-a-waste/807450/127 "2018-01-28T21:33:41Z")

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> [@chaika](#):
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> Vaya con Dios.

Gracias. Igualmente, chaika.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-american-a-waste/807450/128 "2018-01-28T21:43:28Z")

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Guacamole, chipotle moraca agua.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-american-a-waste/807450/129 "2018-01-28T22:10:29Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> Hope to hear from you again soon.
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> Love, **monstro**

If you’ve heard me at all I’d see a doctor. 😉

Love

**msc**

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-american-a-waste/807450/130 "2018-01-28T22:16:20Z")

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Well, the two fare-wells didn’t last long.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-american-a-waste/807450/131 "2018-01-28T23:42:45Z")

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**Moderator Note**

> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Ah, but the tone of my posts is a direct result of seeing that condescension. I don’t have a beam in my eye–I’m poking her with a stick.

Which I explicitly asked you - and others, not to do. This thread is more trouble than it’s worth. Closing.

> [@Euphrosyne](#):
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> I really appreciate what you’ve tried to do, and only wish the moderators might have been a little more proactive. But it is what it is.

Most people know the rules of this message board and usually follow them. Moderators are volunteers and actually have lives outside of message boards, so if you don’t receive a response immediately, it’s probably because we’re doing something in meatspace. I already moderated this thread once and I did so without anyone reporting it, so I think I’ve been plenty proactive, thanks.

Since you’ve asked, the best way to deal with people being antagonistic toward you is to ignore them and keep the thread on topic. When most people who respond to your posts do so in a certain negative way, it’s indicative that you aren’t coming off well. They will be moderated accordingly, but you will probably continue to have problems until you adjust your posting style. Witnessing, in particular, is not well received here, in fact, threads that are explicitly about witnessing are typically moved to the Pit. I don’t think this thread warrants such a move, but some of your posts are definitely skirting the line, and I am 99% confident that’s why you’re getting negative feedback. Something to consider for future postings, if you do decide to stay.

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