# Is any woman that was in a porn film a "porn star?" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 28, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-woman-that-was-in-a-porn-film-a-porn-star/537637 "2010-04-28T16:16:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-woman-that-was-in-a-porn-film-a-porn-star/537637/21 "2010-04-29T02:38:16Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > If she’s so hot that any man would be gay for not wanting to fuck her, then that should be obvious by just looking at her. Sir, you and I must meet upon the Field of Honour. Bring your sword. (I’ll bring my Uzi.) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-woman-that-was-in-a-porn-film-a-porn-star/537637/22 "2010-04-29T05:51:19Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Yes, a porn movie will have individuals who are the primary focus, but they’ll also usually have folks in the background, too, just like any other movie. I can see saying that someone who was the focus of a movie is a porn star, but what about someone whose entire porn career was just as “fluffer #3”, or whatever? A friend of my parents was in a porn film, a “non-participatory part” as she put it – she (her character, that is) sold her daughter into white slavery. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-woman-that-was-in-a-porn-film-a-porn-star/537637/23 "2010-04-29T15:10:35Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > And, of course, [Traci Lords.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traci_Lords) (The greatest living argument in American history for lowering the legal age of consent to 15. Don’t give me any shit about “kiddie porn.” If you are an adult male, and you would not do 15-year-old Traci Lords, you are gay. You are so gay Richard Simmons would go out of his way to kick your sorry gay ass; and then he would go fuck 15yo Traci.) This has reminded me of two quotes from comedians, the first I can’t remember (Marc Maron, maybe): “My girlfriend said, ‘you’re so gross, you want to sleep with 15-year-old girls!’ Of _course_ I want to sleep with 15-year-old girls! _That’s_ why there’s a _law_!” The second was from David Cross: “Porn is the only career where you can be filmed on a shaky handi-cam sucking off a horse and be called a ‘star’.” ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-woman-that-was-in-a-porn-film-a-porn-star/537637/24 "2010-04-29T15:28:40Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > And, of course, [Traci Lords.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traci_Lords) (The greatest living argument in American history for lowering the legal age of consent to 15. Don’t give me any shit about “kiddie porn.” If you are an adult male, and you would not do 15-year-old Traci Lords, you are gay. You are so gay Richard Simmons would go out of his way to kick your sorry gay ass; and then he would go fuck 15yo Traci.) How is this an argument for lowering the legal age? Because fifteen year olds are attractive to men, or because one fifteen year old girl was savvy enough to be able to handle having sex at that age? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-woman-that-was-in-a-porn-film-a-porn-star/537637/25 "2010-04-29T15:37:50Z")
How do we really even know that she “handled it?” She’d been sexually abused from the age of 10, and was put into the industry by an abusive stepfather. Her behavior at 15 was not an indicator of exceptional cognitive or emotional maturity, or calculating sophistication, but a result of abuse. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-woman-that-was-in-a-porn-film-a-porn-star/537637/26 "2010-04-29T15:45:40Z")
Yeah. I’ve definitely always gotten a creepy vibe from, “See, Traci Lords did it!” Like it’s a justification. I mean, does her existence really mean anything to the way we should be treating fifteen year old girls? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-woman-that-was-in-a-porn-film-a-porn-star/537637/27 "2010-04-29T15:55:10Z")
I’ve heard the term “porn actress” used on women who’ve done porn but weren’t “stars”. I say if you know them by name they are probably a star, otherwise its just “random blonde with gigantic fake tits”. ---
**Author:** ![akrako1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@akrako1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/akrako1)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-woman-that-was-in-a-porn-film-a-porn-star/537637/28 "2010-04-29T21:28:22Z")
if you ask me, Sylvester Stallone should have stayed in Porn… [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065904/](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065904/) ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-woman-that-was-in-a-porn-film-a-porn-star/537637/29 "2010-05-02T06:50:31Z")
> [@elmwood](#): > > I hear the word “porn star” used to refer to literally any woman that has performed in a porn film, regardless of her popularity or fame, or how many films she appeared in. Yes, appearing in any pornographic film that is commercially sold makes one a ‘porn star’. Technicalities of “stardom” aside, that’s just the way the colloquialism goes… Note that being a celebrity and having one’s sex tape absconded does _not_ make one a porn star. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-woman-that-was-in-a-porn-film-a-porn-star/537637/30 "2010-05-02T06:55:29Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Male porn stars always say that it’s not as much fun as it looks like, but I think they’re just saying that because they don’t want competition. I find it hard to believe they get up in the morning and think, “man, I don’t want to go to work and get my dick sucked by two chicks at once today. I think I’ll call in sick.” If you have been to the gym enough to have a super body, and you were blessed with the genetics needed to be well endowed, there’s still the issues of being able to perform on demand, but not getting too excited to blow your load before the camera has gotten enough footage. Surprisingly, even porn is hard work. ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-woman-that-was-in-a-porn-film-a-porn-star/537637/31 "2010-05-02T06:57:10Z")
Lived in West Hollywood, CA for several years, and met lots of guys who had been in Gay porn films - every one claimed to be a “Porn Star”. Of course, no one wanted to claim they had a _bit part_. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-woman-that-was-in-a-porn-film-a-porn-star/537637/32 "2010-05-02T07:01:11Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > How do we really even know that she “handled it?” She’d been sexually abused from the age of 10, and was put into the industry by an abusive stepfather. Her behavior at 15 was not an indicator of exceptional cognitive or emotional maturity, or calculating sophistication, but a result of abuse. I skimmed Ms. Lords’ autobiography, and that’s not how she tells it. He pretended to be her stepfather to get her the necessary fake ID to pose nude, but she was actually “dating” him at the time. And her entry into full-on porn was more of an accident after she took a job as a (non-participating) background extra on a porn film: “You want me to fuck me this hot guy on camera? OK!” While that doesn’t excuse her abusive past, she started doing porn on a whim. Nothing more, nothing less. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-any-woman-that-was-in-a-porn-film-a-porn-star/537637.md?page=1)