# Is anyone else annoyed by the word "veggies"? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 6, 2023, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796 "2023-03-06T18:44:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/201 "2023-03-17T02:24:38Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > I’ve only seen it from a local Japanese sandwich shop. I assumed it was Japanese or Japanese-American slang. It is used in Japanese but I’m referring to other types of usage. [B’Fast Sando](https://eatfullbellydeli.com) [Italian pepper steak sandos](https://www.hellofresh.com/recipes/italian-pepper-steak-sandos-60a51aaa87b4b26ba660cd65) [Best sando I ever had](https://www.reddit.com/r/eatsandwiches/comments/wc6zc5/the_best_sando_i_ever_made_slow_smoked_pastrami/) ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/202 "2023-03-17T19:42:25Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > It occurs to me that I’ve heard “crotch” used both by female groups and in mixed company for either male or female anatomy; with context making it clear what’s meant by the term. I hadn’t thought of that one. I suppose either crotch or groin could be used in casual conversation. > [@thorny\_locust](#): > > I’m not in the UK, and I’ve heard it used in the USA as a casual descriptor, applied to one’s own or close friends’ anatomy – in fact that’s how I first heard it, way back in my early teens. That’s pretty much my experience with it also. It’s almost exclusively used male to male, usually good naturedly. It’s kind of like a swear word that has lost it’s original meaning. For instance, nobody really thinks you are having sex with your mom if they call you a motherfucker. That’s my circle of friends and family though. I would never use it at a social mixer of some type where I didn’t know everyone. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/203 "2023-03-18T16:09:23Z")
> [@jnglmassiv](#): > > It is used in Japanese but I’m referring to other types of usage. > > [B’Fast Sando](https://eatfullbellydeli.com) > [Italian pepper steak sandos](https://www.hellofresh.com/recipes/italian-pepper-steak-sandos-60a51aaa87b4b26ba660cd65) > [Best sando I ever had](https://www.reddit.com/r/eatsandwiches/comments/wc6zc5/the_best_sando_i_ever_made_slow_smoked_pastrami/) For some reason, I associate it with Australia, though the internet tells me that “sando” is more Queensland usage, with “sanger” being used elsewhere. Maybe some antipodean Dopers can comment? (ETA: Actually, I figured it out. It’s because an Australian cooking channel – Andy Cooks – made a “katsu sando” one day. That’s the Japanese usage mentioned above by @carrps. So it may not be generally associated with Australia, though, as I said, Queensland did get mentioned, and it wouldn’t surprise me if Japanese usage bled down there, and the pronunciation example of “sando” given on wiktionary is Australian audio.) “Cooch” for female private parts I’ve found pretty familiar. It’s what my wife uses, for instance, as in “make sure the kids wash their cooch” and she also uses it self referentially. It’s probably the only term I personally use, as well, to refer to that body part in a rated-G sort of way. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/204 "2023-03-18T17:40:42Z")
I’ve never thought of cooch as G-rated. Maybe PG? Reminds me that once _The Daily Show_ IIRC showed a bit from the Cooch Festival in someplace like South Carolina. It’s southern slang for tortoise or something like that. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/205 "2023-03-18T18:03:46Z")
Spelled “cwtch” or “cwtsh” (but pronounced identically), it’s used in Welsh English (and in Welsh) to mean a lot of things ([Cwtch - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cwtch)) up to and including sex, but never having talked about female genitalia, I don’t know if “cooch” would even be understood: I’ve never been able to figure out posting images here, but the link is a google image search of a pillow that says “A great big cwtch for dad.” [https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2Fd1%2Fe1%2Fb2%2Fd1e1b2fc2d189930ac1f682d961a5376.jpg&tbnid=BDWUqdZHkAbX3M&vet=12ahUKEwjOqJeTiOb9AhX1AjQIHWPjAMwQMygAegQIARAr..i&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fin.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F338473728251719404%2F&docid=KM\_kRyWdWXGxZM&w=1500&h=1000&itg=1&q="great%20big%20cwtch%20for%20dad"&ved=2ahUKEwjOqJeTiOb9AhX1AjQIHWPjAMwQMygAegQIARAr](https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2Fd1%2Fe1%2Fb2%2Fd1e1b2fc2d189930ac1f682d961a5376.jpg&tbnid=BDWUqdZHkAbX3M&vet=12ahUKEwjOqJeTiOb9AhX1AjQIHWPjAMwQMygAegQIARAr..i&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fin.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F338473728251719404%2F&docid=KM_kRyWdWXGxZM&w=1500&h=1000&itg=1&q=%22great%20big%20cwtch%20for%20dad%22&ved=2ahUKEwjOqJeTiOb9AhX1AjQIHWPjAMwQMygAegQIARAr) ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/206 "2023-03-18T19:11:34Z")
That’s “cooter”, also a perfectly cromulent word for the lady parts. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/207 "2023-03-18T19:20:41Z")
Ah, that’s right. Not words I typically use, so they’re not familiar. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/208 "2023-03-18T19:42:57Z")
It’s the words we use with our two daughters, under ten. To me, the word is like “wiener” for boys. I don’t know if this is universally acknowledged, but that’s where it stands connotationally within my family. It may perhaps be more PG, but my vocabulary around the house isn’t very edited (I try a little) so it seems G from my perspective. And it sounds better to me than “hoo-hah.” ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/209 "2023-03-18T19:48:44Z")
To me, the word makes me think of very tacky strippers, so, personally, I wouldn’t use it for young girls. But your family has different thoughts on the word. Obviously! ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/210 "2023-03-19T18:48:45Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > That’s “cooter”, also a perfectly cromulent word for the lady parts. Mr. Davenport from Hazzard County would like to comment… [![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fa/86/96/fa8696bc9b4ec77a2bdc953869a33d6d.gif) ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fa/86/96/fa8696bc9b4ec77a2bdc953869a33d6d.gif) ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/211 "2023-03-19T21:19:32Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > Here ya go. Just need to make sure the address ends in a photo file, like “jpeg” or similar. So that’s pronounced “cooch”? [![](https://www.valleymill.co.uk/image/cache/catalog/Father's%20Day/2021/Cushions/CUSHION_CWTCHFORDAD-1600x1187.jpg) ](https://www.valleymill.co.uk/image/cache/catalog/Father's%20Day/2021/Cushions/CUSHION_CWTCHFORDAD-1600x1187.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/212 "2023-03-19T21:24:01Z")
Thanks! Yes, though some speakers rhyme it with “butch.” ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/213 "2023-03-19T21:42:36Z")
Thanks to you I learned a new word. However, in the US, the words “great big” should probably never be used with cooch. Just a heads up! ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/214 "2023-03-19T23:24:40Z")
Some of us _need_ a great big cootch. Just sayin’. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/215 "2023-03-19T23:53:34Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > However, in the US, the words “great big” should probably never be used with cooch. I’d be more concerned about offering one to “Dad”. I’ve only rarely heard it as slang for the genitals; but don’t think I’ve ever heard it as slang for a hug, which looks like what it means in that pillow picture. ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/216 "2023-03-20T06:33:24Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Some of us _need_ a great big cootch. That’s not what word on the street says about you. 🙂 > [@thorny\_locust](#): > > I’d be more concerned about offering one to “Dad”. That is a bit awkward to say to one’s dad in the US, but Welsh is more like cuddle or comfort than genitals, so not so bad. Now I’ve typed and read cooch so much in this thread it seems I’m getting confused about coochie-coo and hootchie-coo. I think one’s tickling a baby and one’s not. We may have to call the whole thing off. > **[Let's Call The Whole Thing Off](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbBcOA6PGIA%5Bhttps:%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2Ffm8fv9xBRYs%5D%28https:%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2Ffm8fv9xBRYs%29)** > > Provided to YouTube by Universal Music GroupLet's Call The Whole Thing Off · Ella Fitzgerald · Louis ArmstrongElla And Louis Again℗ A Verve Label Group Relea... ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/217 "2023-03-20T10:15:41Z")
One other common one that just occurred to me. The use of the word “passed” to mean “died”. “passed”, “passed on”, “passed over”, I don’t like any of them and don’t use them myself. It’s a wording that carries an implicit acceptance of an afterlife and I can’t get on board with that. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/218 "2023-03-20T11:56:59Z")
There’s also “passed away” which is a more neutral on the after life POV. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/219 "2023-03-20T12:57:32Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > It’s a wording that carries an implicit acceptance of an afterlife and I can’t get on board with that. It probably does, but I’ve never thought of it that way, though "passed away’ is the form I more usually use when using a softer term for “died.” I don’t mind “died” myself, but I also don’t mind the social niceties for the grieving. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796/220 "2023-03-20T13:31:47Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > It probably does, but I’ve never thought of it that way, though "passed away’ is the form I more usually use when using a softer term for “died.” I don’t mind “died” myself, but I also don’t mind the social niceties for the grieving. I guess I never feel the need to soften the word “died” in the first place. Mind you those I interact with never seem to use the “passed” form anyway so that’s perhaps why it feels so foreign and strange when I hear it elsewhere. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-else-annoyed-by-the-word-veggies/980796.md?page=12)