# Is anyone planning to switch their support from Hillary to Donald over the emails? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 7, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285 "2016-07-07T03:49:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/21 "2016-07-07T15:33:15Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I’d also note that she refuses to hold press conferences, which is not a sign that she can handle the heat. What is going on is that Trump is the one that the press and others are calling out for having fiascoes of press conferences. That and Trump has also banned several media outlets, something that even Ninxon did not do. Trump also has had interviews that have been fiascos, but Hillary has a way with then. > **[Why Hillary Clinton Is Avoiding Press Conferences](https://www.thecut.com/2016/06/stop-asking-hillary-to-give-a-press-conference.html)** > > She's playing to her strengths, as any politician would. > [@](#): > > Of course, a lack of press conferences doesn’t equal a lack of transparency: She’s given more than 300 interviews in 2016, including speeches before and after primaries and caucuses, town halls, and appearances on NBC’s The Ellen DeGeneres Show and Jimmy Kimmel Live!. But Clinton knows she has a much better chance of controlling the situation if she can field questions during, say, a nationally televised town hall instead of a no-holds-barred press scrum. > > She is, in other words, playing to her strengths as much as Trump plays to his with sensational supersize rallies and press conferences on his home turf. Ed Rendell, the former governor of Pennsylvania, told New York’s Rebecca Traister that Clinton ought to design the presidency around what she does best: > > ``` > "The president gets to select the mode of communicating,” he said. “The president can go out and make speeches in front of large audiences, or the president can make the speech sitting behind the desk talking to a TV camera. The president can do sit-down interviews. If I were Hillary’s chief of staff, I’d get her on as many of those interview shows as I could and just get her talking and not reading a speech. I’d have her do town meetings all through her presidency. Have you seen her in small town halls? Hillary is not a great large-crowd speaker, but in those contexts, I would rate her as close to spectacular.” > > ``` > > Does she owe it to voters to give a press conference at some point soon? Yes. But it’s probably not a political mistake to give fewer than Trump. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/22 "2016-07-07T15:56:26Z")
Maybe. I just find the idea that she shows grace under pressure laughable. Read Game Change if you want to see how Clinton actually handles pressure. Being able to smile long enough for the cameras and tell some well scripted lies is not grace under pressure. Not cussing out your staff for every little thing that goes wrong(and which is your own fault, not your staff’s) is grace under pressure. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/23 "2016-07-07T16:05:38Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Telling lots of lies is “grace under pressure?” Obsessive secrecy for your own business, laxity towards national security secrets is “grace under pressure?” Yes. Trump sets a very low bar. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/24 "2016-07-07T16:09:05Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Maybe. I just find the idea that she shows grace under pressure laughable. Read Game Change if you want to see how Clinton actually handles pressure. Being able to smile long enough for the cameras and tell some well scripted lies is not grace under pressure. Not cussing out your staff for every little thing that goes wrong(and which is your own fault, not your staff’s) is grace under pressure. Well, not sure that gossip should be praised, I have seen the reviews and they are mostly like the Financial Times noted. “It transports you to **a parallel universe in which everything in the National Enquirer is true** ….More interesting is what we learn about the candidates themselves: their frailties, egos and almost super-human stamina.” —The Financial Times Seems that they treated it as a great fun book, but like bubble gum, good enough to chew but not to swallow. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/25 "2016-07-07T16:22:50Z")
1/100 of 1% of her emails were marked, in the body of the text, with a [C]. That means the paragraph following the marking is classified. The documents are also suppose to have the word CLASSIFIED in the header, which they did not. Screw up or an intentional act? Voting for you Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/26 "2016-07-07T16:25:44Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Maybe. I just find the idea that she shows grace under pressure laughable. Say, did Trey Gowdy ever get something else to eat after Hillary ate his lunch? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/27 "2016-07-07T16:55:31Z")
It would, if possible, make such a person even more shallow and ignorant than Trump. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/28 "2016-07-07T17:01:42Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Say, did Trey Gowdy ever get something else to eat after Hillary ate his lunch? Chuckle of the day. ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/29 "2016-07-07T19:21:14Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > 1/100 of 1% of her emails were marked, in the body of the text, with a [C]. That means the paragraph following the marking is classified. The documents are also suppose to have the word CLASSIFIED in the header, which they did not. Screw up or an intentional act? > > Voting for you Hillary. You forgot to note that 0% of those emails should have been on her private server in the first place and that was fully intentional. You want to support Hillary\*, fine. But at least be honest about what she did. Slee \*They both suck. Clinton and Trump. Mainly because we (as in the general public) no longer care about honesty and integrity. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/30 "2016-07-07T20:19:10Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > You forgot to note that 0% of those emails should have been on her private server in the first place and that was fully intentional. Her private server was not in conflict with any government guidelines at the time, so I not sure how you came to that conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/31 "2016-07-07T20:31:06Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Maybe. I just find the idea that she shows grace under pressure laughable. Read Game Change if you want to see how Clinton actually handles pressure. Being able to smile long enough for the cameras and tell some well scripted lies is not grace under pressure. Not cussing out your staff for every little thing that goes wrong(and which is your own fault, not your staff’s) is grace under pressure. You’re going to be very disappointed after the first Clinton/Trump debate. I wonder how you’ll spin her trouncing of Trump as anything but that. Or, maybe you’ll finally see the light. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/32 "2016-07-07T20:32:56Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > You forgot to note that 0% of those emails should have been on her private server in the first place and that was fully intentional. > > You want to support Hillary\*, fine. But at least be honest about what she did. > > Slee > > \*They both suck. Clinton and Trump. Mainly because we (as in the general public) no longer care about honesty and integrity. I defy anyone to look honest or like they have integrity after 25 years of nearly-constant Republican shitstorming. Do you think you could? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/33 "2016-07-07T20:54:41Z")
Seriously, why the fuck would I care whether Hillary tried to erase emails or technically violated the law by storing classified information on the wrong server? Is any of that going to increase or lower my wages? Is that going to have an impact on interest rates in the coming 4-8 years? Is that going to affect whether we get out of Afhganistan without runaway deficits? Is that going to determine whether we get fairer tax policy? Oh Hillary lied, so vote for the fraudster who snookered unsuspecting dupes out of “university” tuition money and the guy who probably has no understanding of foreign policy or macroeconomics? Nice try, silly rabbit, but tricks are for kids. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/34 "2016-07-07T20:56:16Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > \*They both suck. Clinton and Trump. Mainly because we (as in the general public) no longer care about honesty and integrity. Politics sucks because nobody really takes the time to understand whom or what they’re voting for. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/35 "2016-07-07T20:58:17Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > You’re going to be very disappointed after the first Clinton/Trump debate… Karnak **'luci** says it ain’t gonna happen. He’ll make up an excuse, probably unfair media tilt towards Hillary. But he won’t do it. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/36 "2016-07-07T20:58:44Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > You forgot to note that 0% of those emails should have been on her private server in the first place and that was fully intentional. > … > [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Her private server was not in conflict with any government guidelines at the time, so I not sure how you came to that conclusion. Well-put. > [@Pleonast](#): > > … The email “scandal” is much noise, but little substance. Yeah, her server was not as secure as it could’ve been, but the dirty “secret” is that it was typical of government servers of that time. … Yes. This is the Big Lie on which the entire house of cards, the ‘Clinton Email Scandal’, has been built: that _'Hillary Clinton was given the option of using an email system that was safe and secure from hacking, and she refused_.’ The house of cards then rises higher and higher with tut-tutting about her Bad Judgment in Refusing To Use the Safe-and-Secure State-Department System. A system which did not exist. There was _no_ safe-from-hacking system offered to her; she was probably correct at the time in thinking that the server she chose to use would be safer than the State Department option offered. (Of course when job #1 is to cover one’s ass, choosing the ‘official’ option, unsafe as it was, would have been the best CYA move. If you get hacked you can at least say ‘hey, I didn’t set up that system.’ Clinton did relinquish that opportunity.) But none of these facts matter to those desperate to smear Clinton; the arguments may be clumsy or they may be fluid (as in our own Mr. Tiger’s thread in this very subfolder)–but they are _all_ disingenuous. They all ignore the fact that she did not “irresponsibly” turn down a system safe and secure from hacking, because she was not _offered_ a system safe and secure from hacking. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/37 "2016-07-07T21:02:13Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > … because she was not _offered_ a system safe and secure from hacking. Does such a thing even exist? When the defenders work 9 to 4:30 and the offense works 24/7/365? ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/38 "2016-07-07T21:02:22Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > No. ^ This. All I have to offer the Smear Machine is what it has earned: Charmin. ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/39 "2016-07-07T21:03:21Z")
**asahi** basically nails it. I think that the private email server was probably an attempt to keep embarrassing emails out of the public eye. And in the process there were probably some leaks that were damaging to national security, although we’ll probably never know exactly how much or how bad. I think that’s disgraceful and she shouldn’t have done it… but come on. It’s small potatoes. There are real fucking problems in our world to deal with, and as far as I can tell, Trump will make most of them worse. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/40 "2016-07-07T21:07:10Z")
Oh what a load of crap. This is not remotely a “Big Lie”. Saying there was no explicit rule about having a private server is bullshit tap dancing. There are rules about keeping info safe and she flagrantly thought that her unmonitored basement server was good enough and/or there was nothing confidential on it anyways. You can say this won’t change your vote but pretending this is purely partisan bullshit is no way correct. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285.md?page=3)