# Is anyone planning to switch their support from Hillary to Donald over the emails?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 7, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285 "2016-07-07T03:49:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/81 "2016-07-10T18:18:14Z")

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> [@treis](#):
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> Now you’re changing the argument. I said she showed remarkably poor judgement, not that she committed a crime.

Already replied to, IMHO Comey did talk like you said early, but the hearing showed that he should not had put it as harsh as he did early.

> [@treis](#):
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> On the contrary. The FBI described it as “extremely unlikely” that the hackers would have left evidence of their intrusion.

I’m not going just for a “possible” that still does not make a case, but for what the Republicans were claiming; that the European Hacker had done so. That was wrong.

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> Any of these would have been preferable. Maintaining a private server with no full time security staff and running out of date protection software is laughably vulnerable.

Partially agree, thing is that to make it as important as the Republicans claimed we should be talking about information that would had been transmited in the public system at the State Department. The few emais that had an issue should not had been there, but the point is that not even the hackers came with those emails, and there is good reason to think that in the end they were not useful to the enemy.

> [@treis](#):
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> Of course.

And of course it is clear that the more secure area would not had been used for her personal e-mail but the public one that we should assume it was hacked too if we want to use that standard that if something is possible that then it did happen. AFAICU the effort was anyhow to not sent to Clinton messages made only for the secure areas. The results then would had been the same with the difference that less risk was involved (?) at the State Department. Not good for the Clinton server, but not gross negligence or bad intentions there.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/82 "2016-07-10T18:41:16Z")

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> [@treis](#):
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> Of course.

Can you provide me a primary source for this info? Not that I doubt you, but I am interested in seeing the actual requirement.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/83 "2016-07-10T18:44:52Z")

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I’m confused. Why are you guys talking like this was about her private emails? There was 30 000 work related emails and that’s the focus of the investigation. If Clinton had just used her private server for forwarding Bill her joke-of-the-day then no one would be talking about it.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/84 "2016-07-10T19:28:56Z")

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Yeah, my post was badly worded. I’d retract it if I could. 🙂

Regardless,\* is\* there a defined standard/set of regulations/etc, for personal email accounts and cabinet members? Are they required not to have one, use a commercial account, use official govt email, other?

I tried looking this up but G-fu is weak.

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**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/85 "2016-07-10T20:38:08Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Can you provide me a primary source for this info? Not that I doubt you, but I am interested in seeing the actual requirement.

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> “What I can tell you is that very specific guidance has been given to agencies all across the government, which is specifically that employees of the Obama administration should use their official email accounts when they’re conducting official government business,” the White House spokesman, Josh Earnest, said. “However, when there are situations where personal email accounts are used, it is important for those records to be preserved consistent with the Federal Records Act.”

[http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/04/us/politics/using-private-email-hillary-clinton-thwarted-record-requests.html?action=click&contentCollection=Politics&module=RelatedCoverage&region=EndOfArticle&pgtype=article](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/04/us/politics/using-private-email-hillary-clinton-thwarted-record-requests.html?action=click&contentCollection=Politics&module=RelatedCoverage&region=EndOfArticle&pgtype=article)

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**Author:** ![pohjonen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pohjonen/32/423_2.png) [@pohjonen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pohjonen)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-anyone-planning-to-switch-their-support-from-hillary-to-donald-over-the-emails/759285/86 "2016-07-10T21:00:58Z")

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The right has been screaming “WOLF!!” about all things Clinton for so many years, I probably wouldn’t take it seriously if an actual Clinton wolf was right here in my living room dancing with my sister.

And I’m not even mildly enthusiastic about either of them.

Compared to the annoying orange man, virtually any Democrat looks like a paragon of virtue and competence.

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