# Is (are) your kid (s) into screamo? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 9, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152 "2010-07-09T21:22:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![brujaja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@brujaja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brujaja)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/1 "2010-07-09T21:22:22Z")
Now, don’t get me wrong – I love my boy like crazy. And I am keenly aware of the irony implicit in a punk mom who doesn’t get her kid’s music. Heh heh. I have a sort of a theory about screamo. I think it represents an unconscious attempt on the part of young men to broaden their gender role to include more emotional expression. Yes, I know men have always been free to express their emotions; but I think there has remained a certain pressure not to be… well, not to cry or be emotionally vulnerable and stuff like that. In this sense, I think it’s a good thing. Anyway, do your kids like screamo? Do you? Is it radically different from what you listen to? I’m just curious. ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/2 "2010-07-09T21:32:03Z")
I don’t know what it is, but I do know that I think I am very, very glad my son is into classic heavy metal and not into anything called “screamo”. ---
**Author:** ![brujaja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@brujaja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brujaja)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/3 "2010-07-09T21:55:28Z")
Yep, maybe so. The bands have names like “Panic At The Disco” and “I Set My Friends On Fire.” I’m _pretty sure_ they’re ironic. To be fair, I Set My Friends On Fire has one video called “Sex Ed” that is hilarious. This is a **direct** YouTube link, **NSFW:** [“Sex Ed.” (starts at 19 seconds)](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_6ItxioUco) ---
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/41988e/32.png) [@Tequila\_Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/4 "2010-07-09T22:01:34Z")
I don’t know what screamo is either. I do like some of the same bands that TurboPup, my fifteen year old son does, but they tend to be more of the pop-punk (All Time Low) or My Chemical Romance, Disturbed and Rise Against - bands which I’m not even sure what they’re classified as. ---
**Author:** ![Electric\_Warrior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Electric\_Warrior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electric_Warrior)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/5 "2010-07-09T22:02:32Z")
[This](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eayZeBdgOwo=) is screamo. Also [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN1OYVJ82yw). And [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxkrG-tAKBY). Everyone I knew was into it back in 2003, I’m somewhat surprised it’s still popular… ---
**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/6 "2010-07-09T22:06:07Z")
> [@brujaja](#): > > I have a sort of a theory about screamo. I think it represents an unconscious attempt on the part of young men to broaden their gender role to include more emotional expression. Yes, I know men have always been free to express their emotions; but I think there has remained a certain pressure not to be… well, not to cry or be emotionally vulnerable and stuff like that. In this sense, I think it’s a good thing. Well, screamo is an offshoot of emo which was originally an offshoot of hardcore. The book American Hardcore describes the birth of emo and IIRC it was a lot of bands trying to be more constructive with their music as a deliberate response to the macho posturing and violence that were increasingly becoming part of the hardcore scene. ---
**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/7 "2010-07-10T00:15:03Z")
> [@Talon\_Karrde](#): > > Well, screamo is an offshoot of emo which was originally an offshoot of hardcore. The book American Hardcore describes the birth of emo and IIRC **it was a lot of bands trying to be more constructive with their music as a deliberate response to the macho posturing and violence that were increasingly becoming part of the hardcore scene**. Yep. “Revolution Summer,” they called it…when all the old hardcore bands started playing “wimpy college rock” (I forget where the quote comes from) so as to make their shows and scenes less violent. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/8 "2010-07-10T02:17:16Z")
> [@brujaja](#): > > Yep, maybe so. The bands have names like “Panic At The Disco” and “I Set My Friends On Fire.” I’m _pretty sure_ they’re ironic. > > To be fair, I Set My Friends On Fire has one video called “Sex Ed” that is hilarious. This is a **direct** YouTube link, **NSFW:** > > [“Sex Ed.” (starts at 19 seconds)](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_6ItxioUco) Wow, that is… wow. I must be getting old. I’ve defended a lot of music on these boards, but I’m all “you kids get off my lawn” with that one. Panic! At the Disco is screamo? Everything I’ve heard by them sounds pretty poppy to me. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/9 "2010-07-10T02:34:13Z")
> [@brujaja](#): > > Yep, maybe so. The bands have names like “Panic At The Disco” and “I Set My Friends On Fire.” I’m _pretty sure_ they’re ironic. Panic at the Disco is **not** screamo. Not by a mile. Emo, perhaps, but not screamo. [This](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utOR89-RAtU&feature=related) is what screamo sounds like, [and this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDtxDRvFRdo&feature=channel). Oh, okay, sometimes they’re like [Thursday](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBKgDI9ptws) and you can make out some words, but that’s more mainstream, like how Green Day and The Offspring are punk. No, my kid doesn’t like screamo, and it’s a good thing too because I’d smack the crap out of him for having such terrible taste in music. you all know I don’t have kids, right? ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/10 "2010-07-10T03:13:21Z")
I have a niece (13) who likes screamo, (I think) as a funny, interesting diversion, not something she’s really “into”. She turned my son (10) onto some screamo stuff, and he liked [BYOB by System of a Down](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUzd9KyIDrM) (which I’m pretty sure qualifies as screamo); I thought it was a pretty fun/funny tune, and it also has some pretty cool guitar changes. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/11 "2010-07-10T03:27:59Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > I have a niece (13) who likes screamo, (I think) as a funny, interesting diversion, not something she’s really “into”. She turned my son (10) onto some screamo stuff, and he liked [BYOB by System of a Down](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUzd9KyIDrM) (which I’m pretty sure qualifies as screamo); I thought it was a pretty fun/funny tune, and it also has some pretty cool guitar changes. System of a Down isn’t screamo at all. It’s metal of one kind or another. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/12 "2010-07-10T03:43:52Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > System of a Down isn’t screamo at all. It’s metal of one kind or another. Yeah, I was afraid someone would say that, I guess I shouldn’t take a 13-year-old’s word for music styles. I still think that song is hilarious. ETA: I guess I was relying on my 10yo son’s take on what his cousin said about what is or is not screamo, so there’s little hope of getting an accurate opinion. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/13 "2010-07-10T03:52:41Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > Yeah, I was afraid someone would say that, I guess I shouldn’t take a 13-year-old’s word for music styles. I still think that song is hilarious. I do enjoy System of a Down. They got some chops, their music is interesting, they don’t seem to take themselves completely seriously (although their music is heavily political), and they incorporate Western Asian/Eastern European folk melodies into their wild vocals and somehow make it work. Fun band. ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/14 "2010-07-10T04:17:09Z")
System of a Down is not screamo, it’s metal. However, Serj is now a solo act. TheKid is very much into screamo. Her exBF is the ‘screamer’ in a garage band - too bad he screams like a 3 year old girl getting pinched. Sucks greatly. Her tastes in music change as often as her style of clothes, but some bands she just won’t leave behind - Underoath, Bullet for my Valentine, Chiodos, and Bring me the Horizon are the bands I can’t escape from. She gets a lot of crap from some of her non-outcast friends about screamo. She says she likes the “angstiness” of screamo. She’s 16. Life is angst. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/15 "2010-07-10T04:32:26Z")
My cousin likes Panic! at the Disco, but I didn’t know they were considered “screamo.” Evs. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/16 "2010-07-10T04:35:18Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > My cousin likes Panic! at the Disco, but I didn’t know they were considered “screamo.” Evs. They’re not. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/17 "2010-07-10T06:38:41Z")
> [@MissTake](#): > > Her tastes in music change as often as her style of clothes, but some bands she just won’t leave behind - Underoath, Bullet for my Valentine, Chiodos, and Bring me the Horizon are the bands I can’t escape from. Aww, come on. I like Bullet for my Valentine. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![LadyJane84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@LadyJane84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LadyJane84)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/18 "2010-07-10T14:11:03Z")
Alexisonfire is another terrible Screamo band. They also have the added distinction of being a terrible Canadian Screamo band ---
**Author:** ![Marlitharn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@Marlitharn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marlitharn)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/19 "2010-07-10T15:13:12Z")
So it’s called “screamo”? I have a young co-worker who listens to stuff like this on Youtube all night; I’ve been referring to it as “Angry White Boy Music”. I’m reminded of a Foxtrot cartoon wherein the mother calls her mother to complain about a CD she gave to one of the kids, protesting, “But, Mom, the music I drove you crazy with was _good_!” My 11 year old daughter has recently discovered Evanescence. I’m not sure what genre, sub-genre, sub-sub-genre, etc. that band falls into; I’m just profoundly thankful it isn’t Justin Bieber. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152/20 "2010-07-10T15:20:09Z")
> [@Marlitharn](#): > > My 11 year old daughter has recently discovered Evanescence. I’m not sure what genre, sub-genre, sub-sub-genre, etc. that band falls into; I’d say goth metal, some would say goth rock, some would say a weird offshoot of nu-metal. Anyhow, that general class of genres. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-are-your-kid-s-into-screamo/546152.md?page=2)