# Is 'Arkham Knight' on PC worth $23.99? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 3, 2016, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-arkham-knight-on-pc-worth-23-99/745087 "2016-02-03T19:55:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-arkham-knight-on-pc-worth-23-99/745087/21 "2016-07-13T17:42:04Z")
Ah, my mistake, for some reason I thought you were talking about the game. I was wondering why you mentioned shipping, yet I still didn’t figure it out… ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-arkham-knight-on-pc-worth-23-99/745087/22 "2016-07-18T16:36:51Z")
You can get it now for $19.99 from BundleStars with all the DLCs (which I bet is what I paid, I think my above post where I say I got for $15 was a mistake) [https://www.bundlestars.com/en/bundle/batman-arkham-knight-bundle](https://www.bundlestars.com/en/bundle/batman-arkham-knight-bundle) ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-arkham-knight-on-pc-worth-23-99/745087/23 "2016-07-18T16:59:24Z")
If you’ve already got the base game (like me), [Wingamestore](http://www.wingamestore.com/product/5529/Batman-Arkham-Knight-Season-Pass/) has the season pass with all DLC for $9.99. BTW, still enjoying the game. I’ve mostly eliminated the minor stuttering with a few more settings changes (the results of which I cannot notice, which is good), but I still get the occasional crash, usually while tearing around the city in the batmobile. I assume it’s having trouble keeping up the loading & rendering all the city sights as I’m driving like a, well, you know. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-arkham-knight-on-pc-worth-23-99/745087/24 "2016-07-18T17:53:42Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > If you’ve already got the base game (like me), [Wingamestore](http://www.wingamestore.com/product/5529/Batman-Arkham-Knight-Season-Pass/) has the season pass with all DLC for $9.99. > > BTW, still enjoying the game. I’ve mostly eliminated the minor stuttering with a few more settings changes (the results of which I cannot notice, which is good), but I still get the occasional crash, usually while tearing around the city in the batmobile. I assume it’s having trouble keeping up the loading & rendering all the city sights as I’m driving like a, well, you know. It’s not stable if you’re in the Batmobile and using a GPU with 2 gigs of RAM or less, unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-arkham-knight-on-pc-worth-23-99/745087/25 "2016-07-18T19:12:57Z")
> [@Kinthalis](#): > > It’s not stable if you’re in the Batmobile and using a GPU with 2 gigs of RAM or less, unfortunately. I’m old enough that occasional game crashes are something I got used to a long time ago. At least I’m not editing CONFIG.SYS to get the game to work. BTW, do you happen to know if stability is better/worse/unknown on Windows 10 vs 8.1? I’ve been putting off upgrading to 10 forever, now that the deadline is coming up I’m wondering if I should skip it completely to avoid breaking the game. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-arkham-knight-on-pc-worth-23-99/745087/26 "2016-07-18T19:49:45Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > I’m old enough that occasional game crashes are something I got used to a long time ago. At least I’m not editing CONFIG.SYS to get the game to work. > > BTW, do you happen to know if stability is better/worse/unknown on Windows 10 vs 8.1? I’ve been putting off upgrading to 10 forever, now that the deadline is coming up I’m wondering if I should skip it completely to avoid breaking the game. The issue appears to be VRAM related, so I don’t think going to windows 10 would help you. Mind you, windows 10 is great and you should upgrade anyway 😉 The game has issues properly allocating and utilizing vRAM, so the more you have of it, the more you can turn up settings, and the more stable it will be. I think 4 GB was found to be best. My old 780ti with 3GB also ran fine, but only if I lowered texture quality down a notch or two. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-arkham-knight-on-pc-worth-23-99/745087/27 "2016-07-18T19:57:28Z")
Thank you. I don’t care if it’s not any better, or even just slightly worse - just want to make sure it doesn’t break the game completely. I’ve got 8 GB of system RAM (not 16 as I mistakenly posted before), and I found a few articles saying it needs 12 GB on Windows 10. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-arkham-knight-on-pc-worth-23-99/745087/28 "2016-07-18T20:02:48Z")
Huh, not sure about that. I know it runs perfectly for me in windows 10 on both my 780ti and my new 1070, but I have 16 gigs of RAM. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-arkham-knight-on-pc-worth-23-99/745087/29 "2016-07-20T00:03:46Z")
BTW, if you get the season pass and download the DLC, it’s very existence gives away a huge spoiler. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-arkham-knight-on-pc-worth-23-99/745087/30 "2016-07-25T01:40:50Z")
Arkham Knight with the Season Pass is $16 from [Play Asia](http://www.play-asia.com/batman-arkham-knight-premium-edition-steam/13/708x7x) right now. Global Steam key, works fine. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-arkham-knight-on-pc-worth-23-99/745087/31 "2016-07-27T14:59:46Z")
So I did wind up upgrading to Windows 10. Crashing isn’t any worse, but it definitely pauses & stutters more when driving around in the batmobile. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-arkham-knight-on-pc-worth-23-99/745087/32 "2016-07-27T15:14:44Z")
I don’t even understand why that happens. One might think it’s an exacerbation of the texture/LOD streaming as you move around int he batmobile, but I don’t think the batmobile is that much faster than grappling and flying around, is it? Haven’t played the game in a while, but performance is much better while grappling and flying vs the damned batmobile. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-arkham-knight-on-pc-worth-23-99/745087/33 "2016-07-27T17:09:23Z")
I don’t get it either. There are [articles](http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/10/recommendation-for-still-problematic-arkham-knight-for-pc-12gb-of-ram/) that say WB recommends 12 GB of ram for Windows 10 to prevent paging, but according to task manager my 8 GB system never goes below 2 GB free while I’m playing. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-arkham-knight-on-pc-worth-23-99/745087/34 "2016-08-02T16:51:17Z")
FWIW, upgrading to 12 MB RAM improved but did not eliminate the stuttering while driving. It happens mostly in the first 4 or 5 seconds after I get in the batmobile. Back to the initial thread question - the game is definitely worth the $15 I paid for it, especially if you’re already an Arkham fan. Jury is still out on the DLC for another $10 - so far the extra episode missions haven’t been impressive - the two I’ve played were essentially just showcases of different characters combat styles, with no real story. But I did finally get to play as Adam West Batman, which is outstanding. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-arkham-knight-on-pc-worth-23-99/745087.md?page=1)