# Is Bachman 1) an Anti-Catholic or 2) a Godless Heathen? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 15, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bachman-1-an-anti-catholic-or-2-a-godless-heathen/589160 "2011-07-15T19:23:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Recovering\_Republican](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Recovering\_Republican](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recovering_Republican)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bachman-1-an-anti-catholic-or-2-a-godless-heathen/589160/61 "2011-07-19T10:23:13Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > So what you’re saying is, it’s OK to be racist, because blacks really are uneducated and poorly-behaved? And that it doesn’t matter if an individual black person actually is well-behaved and educated, it’s still OK to assume that he’s not, just because of his skin color? No, that’s not what I’m saying at all, but honestly, I’m getting tired of repeating myself… ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bachman-1-an-anti-catholic-or-2-a-godless-heathen/589160/62 "2011-07-19T11:01:13Z")
> [@Recovering\_Republican](#): > > tired of repeating myself… One can only hope… ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bachman-1-an-anti-catholic-or-2-a-godless-heathen/589160/63 "2011-07-19T14:29:53Z")
> [@Recovering\_Republican](#): > > The only stuff I feel guilty about is stuff I personally did. And that’s the only thing ANY of us should feel guilty about. > > never owned a slave. > Never oppressed an immigrant. > never stole a Native american’s land. > > in fact, in two of those arrangements, my ancestors were on the shitty ends of those sticks. > > And now you liberals come back and tell me because these things are in our collective history of having happened while we built the greatest country ever, we should all feel guilty about it. So we should ignore Bachmann’s bigotry and American history because you do not feel guilt for America’s past. Makes perfect sense in Repub land. The thread is about Bachmann bigotry for "other religions " and her hatred of gays. She is a box of bigotry . ---
**Author:** ![Recovering\_Republican](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Recovering\_Republican](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recovering_Republican)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bachman-1-an-anti-catholic-or-2-a-godless-heathen/589160/64 "2011-07-23T14:03:08Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > So we should ignore Bachmann’s bigotry and American history because you do not feel guilt for America’s past. Makes perfect sense in Repub land. > The thread is about Bachmann bigotry for "other religions " and her hatred of gays. She is a box of bigotry . Guy, you work on the assumption that being homophobic is a deal killer. At best, most americans tolerate gays, but arent’ comfortable with them. (Personally, I don’t care, one way or the other.) Seriously, even Obama has to pretend he’s for traditional marriage (but if the courts strike it down, wink, wink, that’s good with him.) So Bachmann isn’t going to lose much sleep because the Log Cabin Republicans don’t like her. (Incidently, is there name some kind of inuendo that Lincoln was gay or something?) As for her bigotry against other religions, a Church she doesn’t belong to anymore has a traditional belief about the Church of Rome. Yes, I know we aren’t supposed to air these things in polite society, and churches are just supposed to be about pancake breakfasts now. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bachman-1-an-anti-catholic-or-2-a-godless-heathen/589160/65 "2011-07-23T18:17:09Z")
_All_ churches have traditional beliefs about the Church of Rome. For most of them, though, those traditional beliefs aren’t that the Church of Rome is Satanic. That’s just a little bit out of the mainstream. ---
**Author:** ![Recovering\_Republican](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Recovering\_Republican](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recovering_Republican)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bachman-1-an-anti-catholic-or-2-a-godless-heathen/589160/66 "2011-07-24T00:27:06Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > _All_ churches have traditional beliefs about the Church of Rome. For most of them, though, those traditional beliefs aren’t that the Church of Rome is Satanic. That’s just a little bit out of the mainstream. Read what Martin Luther had to say about the Church of Rome… That’s actually a pretty consistant view with his writings. But again, you bring the Bachmann’s Church up, we can bring back Reverend Wright and his “America is Racist” rants. That’ll work out really well. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bachman-1-an-anti-catholic-or-2-a-godless-heathen/589160/67 "2011-07-24T01:49:46Z")
> [@](#): > > But again, you bring the Bachmann’s Church up, we can bring back Reverend Wright and his “America is Racist” rants. That’ll work out really well. Yes, we’re quite aware that you can bring that up. We’re aware of that because you keep on doing it no matter what we say or do. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bachman-1-an-anti-catholic-or-2-a-godless-heathen/589160/68 "2011-07-24T04:58:05Z")
> [@galveston](#): > > This must be the official Democrat forum. > > Most of y’all apparently are strong believers in coincidence. The states that have been strong liberal for decades are in worse financial condition than those states that have been more conservative. Eg. California; liberal and bankrupt. Texas; conservative and solvent. First, it’s largely due to the strong Republican presence in California that the state is having problems; they screwed it up with their anti-tax-at-any-cost garbage and refuse to let it fix itself. And notoriously, the Red States on the whole are net consumers of federal funds while the Blue States carry the Red on their backs. And Texas is a hellhole, it is hardly a recommendation for Republican policies. ---
**Author:** ![pikey\_pete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pikey\_pete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pikey_pete)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bachman-1-an-anti-catholic-or-2-a-godless-heathen/589160/69 "2011-07-29T15:06:16Z")
> [@galveston](#): > > This must be the official Democrat forum. > > Most of y’all apparently are strong believers in coincidence. The states that have been strong liberal for decades are in worse financial condition than those states that have been more conservative. Eg. California; liberal and bankrupt. Texas; conservative and solvent. > > Personally, I don’t do coincidence. I believe in cause and effect. Yeah, Texas is solvent because we dont mind cutting education funding, svengali accounting, and outright lying. Oh, wait…we aren’t solvent. We have a 27 billion dollar deficit. ---
**Author:** ![pikey\_pete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pikey\_pete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pikey_pete)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bachman-1-an-anti-catholic-or-2-a-godless-heathen/589160/70 "2011-07-29T15:08:20Z")
> [@Profound\_Gibberish](#): > > Let’s all remember from the last presidential campaign that, as an individual that belongs to a church, you are completely responsible for, and agree with, everything your pastor says, does, has said, has done, will say and will do. Absolutely no exceptions to that rule, correct? > > So now we have this: > [http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/15/michele-bachmann-officially-leaves-her-church/?hpt=hp\_t2](http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/15/michele-bachmann-officially-leaves-her-church/?hpt=hp_t2) > > If we apply the rule above, Bachman is a radical anti-catholic, but now that she has quit that church, she is a Godless Heathen. > > My question, if there is one, is “Which is Worse?” > > Welcome to the game, Michele. Hope you enjoy playing it on the other side. can’t we just call her an anticatholic, godless heathen? ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bachman-1-an-anti-catholic-or-2-a-godless-heathen/589160/71 "2011-08-14T21:37:19Z")
> [@galveston](#): > > This may not matter to anyone else, but I like Bachmann because she stands for fiscal responsibility, as not raising the debt ceiling (me adding unless we get more up front spending cuts than the raised), repealing Obamacare, strengthening the traditional family, and secure borders, don’t raise taxes during a recession, to name a few things. > > These may not appeal to you, but they do to me. (No, I’m not rich!) Well I could use my traditional family strengthened. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bachman-1-an-anti-catholic-or-2-a-godless-heathen/589160.md?page=3)