Is Barack Obama British by right of birth?

Osama never provided satisfactory proof that it was.

Obama can play his Trump card.

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Are you saying he could be a British peon? Hell, if the war went the other way we’d ALL be British peons!.

Everyone in the British Empire, except for the King/Queen, was a “subject”.

Birth in a British colony automatically conferred the status of British subject (subsequently “Citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies”), with trivial exceptions*. This was exactly the same status as for a person born in the United Kingdom. Neither changed until the British Nationality Act 1981 came into operation.

  • Basically, the children of accredited foreign diplomats.

Depending on exactly where he was born in Kenya, and also upon his parentage, there’s a slim chance that he wasn’t a British subject, but rather a “British protected person”. This is because the ten-mile-wide Coastal Strip (the “Protectorate of Kenya”) was not formally British territory, even though it was administered as part of the Colony of Kenya.

Also excepted from the loss of British citizenship were individuals with ties to another British colony.

A special category of British nationality was created for Hong Kong, so as to reassure the colony’s residents after the Tiananmen Square massacre. I don’t think anyone other than the British government recognised this status! :slight_smile:

Firstly, you don’t ‘demand’ a passport from anyone, you ask nicely and fill out the required paperwork, provide required documentation, pay the fee and wait and wait.

Secondly, I don’t think there is a more complicated passport application than the British. I looked into getting a British passport when I first started traveling (my Dad was born in Manchester - by accident), and was shocked at how complicated it was.

Understandably since so much of the world was once under their dominion, making zillions of persons, subjects/citizens.

Seriously, check out the form - ‘if you were born in the Isle of Mann, after such-and-such a date, if you were born in Northern Ireland before…’, and on and on with almost every former colony. I had to send to England for a certified copy of my Dad’s birth certificate, which was expensive and took a long time, plus source proof of their marriage, my original long form birth document, etc.

In the end, I didn’t have the endurance to go the distance for very little advantage to me, so I just gave up completely!

Yes. I was born a British subject in 1945, and in 1947 I (together with my British-subject parents) entered the United Kingdom. Of course, I don’t remember that, but my parents would just have had to show their passports – one issued by the U.K. government, and the other issued by the Commonwealth of Australia. I would have been a name on my mother’s passport, and would have entered the U.K. with no visa, as a British subject.

On 26th January 1949, through no action of my own or of my parents, and without knowing it at the time, I became an Australian citizen, but still a British subject in Australian and U.K. law.

On 1st January 1983 I ceased to be a British subject under U.K. law. On 1st May 1987 I ceased to be a British subject under Australian law. Again, this was through no action on my part, but because of acts of the U.K. and Australian parliaments. So now, when I enter the U.K., I’m treated as a foreigner, i.e., I have to go to the long and slow immigration queue reserved for non-EU citizens. (But I can still enter as a visitor without a visa.)

Shouldn’t we at least see if he floats first?

Hence the burning.

That would mean he was made out of wood.

No, let’s make a bridge out of him. At least he do one useful thing then.