Is being gay going against natural laws?

Also, Santa Claus was your parents. :smiley:

Thanks for the RIDICULOUSLY HILARIOUS post, but humanity would not end if farmers and engineers just stopped working.

Thought I’d point that out. :eek:

Daybreakers is a science fiction film where 99%+ of the world’s population is vampires.

It’s also possible (and likely) that 90% of sexual leaning is taught, not inherited. As has been noted, there have been societies which encouraged mass homosexuality. That rather indicates that we can be taught to get hard off different things.

Similarly, twin studies show that while there is some amount of relation between genes and shared homosexuality, it’s not particularly strong.

But with the way the brain works, as data is learned, it becomes hardened and largely immutable once you reach maturity. What may have started out a learned (or chance developed) behavior can become a physical reality.

If everyone were a doctor, we’d starve to death. Therefore, doctors “go against nature,” right?

Doctor’s don’t know how to kill an animal and cook it? What the hell kind of universe do you live in? :confused:

You only have to be straight twice in your life to ensure humanity’s survival (i.e. by having two children to ensure population replacement). The rest of the time, you may as well be as gay as French horn.

Gays don’t know how to have heterosexual sex? What the hell kind of universe do YOU live in? :amused:

Several flaws with that argument. First, you are presuming that the genes in question belong to the homosexual and not, say, the mother; it’s an interesting statistic that the more sons a woman has the more likely they are to be homosexual.

There’s also the problem that there are any number of species with non-breeding subgroups, hive insects prominently so. If you were right that wouldn’t be possible.

You are also ignoring kin selection; if “gay genes” produce someone who doesn’t spend resources on their own offspring but ensures that their siblings and nieces/nephews reach adulthood and breed, they can be successful in Darwinian terms without personally breeding because they are helping people breed who have most of the same genes they have.

Nitpick, but I think you mean “clone RuPaul, Richard Simmons or Nathan Lane…”.
Because if you did and to clone all 3 of them into one baby, then always … gay as a goose!

According to birth order statistics, every older brother a male has makes him 33% more likely to be homesexual. I’m not sure what kind of natural reason would exist for this phenomina.

Anecdote: Someone with whom I once discussed this statistic believes this has something to do with development during infancy/toddler stages. This person is not a scientist, but he has a gay brother and 3 gay nephews - all the youngest child in a family with at least 2 older brothers. Interesting he would point to a social explanation rather than a genetic one.

The fetuses get exposed to different hormone levels in utero.

Wait, RuPaul is still gay? Does that mean True Directions doesn’t work? I’m shocked! Shocked I tell you!

I thought sexual preference wasn’t a choice? It’s not like a homosexual male can chose to get an erection with the opposite sex.

:dubious:

Assuming this post is sincere (which is a huge assumption), yes, a homosexual man can absolutely sustain an erection and have an orgasm with a woman. This is possible for a whole host of reasons, including the fact that sexuality is more of a continuum than a strict either/or, and that the man can think about men while fucking a woman, in much the same way that a man can think about other women while fucking one particular one. Our minds are marvelous that way.

Dan Savage, gay advice columnist, has described his heterosexual encounters.

Marriages have ended when one or the other of the spouses comes out of the closet. Often those marriages have produced children. I’m friends with two women who each had children with their husbands before falling in love with one another.

There have probably been millions of children fathered by gay men and/or birthed by gay women.

Is it your assumption that they were all faking it?

Preference is not a choice. Behavior is a choice.

So you’re saying homosexuality IS a choice? Because if homosexuals can be aroused by the opposite sex, then it is a choice…

The situations where a gay man has fathered a child is usually when the person isn’t “out of the closet” or whatever. But in this hypothetical, everyone is already gay, not on the fence.

I’m saying that you’re being entirely disengenuous and a little bit ridiculous.

A homosexual person has not made a choice to be homosexual. Much as you did not make a choice to be heterosexual. The choice, as Marley pointed out and you ignored, is in the behavior.

But that’s beside the point because you seem to be married to your hypothetical which is, in itself, retarded.

No, you’re just making some assumptions here. You can’t choose your sexual orientation. You can choose who you have sex with. Beadalin already explained how it’s possible to have sex with someone of the ‘wrong’ orientation, and plenty of people (not me, luckily) know firsthand it’s possible to have sex with someone you’re not actually attracted to. For one thing, they have this stuff called alcohol…