# Is Ben & Jerry’s just being lazy? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 31, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760 "2018-10-31T02:03:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760/21 "2018-10-31T14:58:23Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > That’s my favorite flavor and I wasn’t aware of the pecans either. I just wish they sold that flavor in the little 3.6oz single-serving cups. > > What “Unilever guys”? It’s a publicly traded conglomerate that’s partly British and partly Dutch. Unless you mean the Lever brothers themselves? I think they’re dead by now. They were Lever-aged out? ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760/22 "2018-10-31T15:15:32Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > This is why I eat only Bluebunny ice cream. > ETA bunnytracks is da bomb! “This” what? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760/23 "2018-11-01T01:41:19Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > No it doesn’t. Yes, it does. Not in your dialect, perhaps, but it’s not a proper noun, so no one dialect gets to claim exclusive ownership. [Edit - although, in this case, it IS a proper noun, the name of the ice cream, so the dialect of the person who named it does get to claim ownership.] ---
**Author:** ![nicky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f0a364/32.png) [@nicky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nicky)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760/24 "2018-11-01T08:41:43Z")
Not lazy. Deluded. Chucking a random selection of candy and nuts and shit in does not a flavour make. Every time a consumer buys B&J instead of Haagen-Dasz, an ice cream fairy dies Fuck you Ben and Jerry’s Flavor Director. I hope you fall into a vat of Twee fruitee choccy randomcandy feeblepun and choke to death on a lump of stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760/25 "2018-11-01T13:33:14Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > Rhymes with ‘We Can’. :smack: Oh, that _weird_ pronunciation of “pecan.” Makes a lot more sense now, although I doubt I will ever, ever be able to read it that way! ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760/26 "2018-11-01T14:17:10Z")
> [@nicky](#): > > Not lazy. Deluded. Chucking a random selection of candy and nuts and shit in does not a flavour make. Shit is a flavor. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760/27 "2018-11-01T14:32:44Z")
> [@nicky](#): > > Every time a consumer buys B&J instead of Haagen-Dasz, an ice cream fairy dies What, do you think Haagen-Dazs is somehow better ice cream than Ben & Jerry’s? I don’t think it is. Both are premium ice creams, with high butterfat content and little air mixed in. I don’t like Haagen-Dazs for the pseudo-Scandinavian name (when, as I remember, it’s actually from New Jersey) while B&J is honest about its Vermont origin story. Admittedly, a Vermont origin story sells better than a New Jersey origin story, unless you’re selling toxic waste in a cup. And I went to college in upstate New York, not far from Vermont and we had a B&J shop on campus, so the nostalgia leads me to favor them. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760/28 "2018-11-01T14:45:38Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > That was my general thought when reading the OP. I’d guess there’s a finite number of flavors and combinations that make up marketable ice cream before you get into Cauliflower & Trout. Eventually you’re going to start repeating. Maybe they could rotate through the less popular ones. I remember with great fondness some fifteen years ago when Dreyers had Chilly Chili, vanilla ice cream with a chocolate mole ribbon and chili-coated Spanish peanuts. The cool, rich sweetness of the ice cream was a nice contrast to the crunchy heat of the peanuts and the lesser, more complex spice of the ribbon. I’m guessing there was only one batch made because it was in the store’s freezers only a month only never to be seen again. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760/29 "2018-11-01T16:57:37Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > No it doesn’t. A “PEE-can” isn’t a nut, it’s what you keep by your bed when it’s too cold to use the outhouse. 😕 How do _you_ pronounce it, then? ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760/30 "2018-11-01T17:08:36Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > No it doesn’t. A “PEE-can” isn’t a nut, it’s what you keep by your bed when it’s too cold to use the outhouse. I think it’s more like: PEE - can ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760/31 "2018-11-01T18:29:04Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > 😕 How do _you_ pronounce it, then? [Wiktionary has a long list of pronunciations, all tagged by region and percentage of population.](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pecan) They’re in IPA format, which is the largely unambiguous system real linguists use, so be sure to prepare yourself for your Three Minutes’ Hate. I pronounce it [pɪˈkɑn], or pih-CAHN, with the ‘i’ as in ‘sit’ and the ‘a’ as in ‘father’. ---
**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760/32 "2018-11-01T23:42:39Z")
There are only so many random things you can throw in ice cream and remain palatable. ---
**Author:** ![Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/59ef9b/32.png) [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorkshire_Pudding)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760/33 "2018-11-02T19:58:30Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > Haha. That was clever. Sounds like a horrible flavor though. 🙂 Maybe a peach sorbet with chopped mint leaf through it would be pretty decent? ---
**Author:** ![Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/59ef9b/32.png) [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorkshire_Pudding)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760/34 "2018-11-02T20:28:02Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > [Wiktionary has a long list of pronunciations, all tagged by region and percentage of population.](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pecan) They’re in IPA format, which is the largely unambiguous system real linguists use, so be sure to prepare yourself for your Three Minutes’ Hate. > > I pronounce it [pɪˈkɑn], or pih-CAHN, with the ‘i’ as in ‘sit’ and the ‘a’ as in ‘father’. Always sounds odd to a Brit, that. Not just a different accent, more like a misplaced pseudo-sophisticated affectation. Not that I think it IS such a thing, I hasten to add! But the switching of emphasis to the second syllable - and lengthening the vowel, especially - where we emphasise the first, is very striking, and seems beyond the usual transatlantic shift between individual phonemes that normally marks a simple difference of accent. I feel another thread coming on… ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760/35 "2018-11-02T22:46:20Z")
I evidently don’t pronounce it that often because it was difficult for me to pronounce naturally without being influenced by this thread, although I definitely don’t put the stress only on the first syllable. It’s either pee-can (equal stress) or pee-CAHN. I don’t use the IPA ɪ sound oddly enough, though. It’s definitely an IPA “i” or a schwa. ---
**Author:** ![bmoak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@bmoak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmoak)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760/36 "2018-11-03T02:18:58Z")
> [@Balthisar](#): > > Can someone explain how “Pecan Resist” criticises anything? Okay, “resist,” I obviously understand, but where does “pecan” come into it? Ben & Jerry’s also had a flavor called “Yes Pecan!” to commemorate Obama’s election. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760/37 "2018-11-03T03:22:47Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > [Wiktionary has a long list of pronunciations, all tagged by region and percentage of population.](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pecan) They’re in IPA format, which is the largely unambiguous system real linguists use, so be sure to prepare yourself for your Three Minutes’ Hate. > > I pronounce it [pɪˈkɑn], or pih-CAHN, with the ‘i’ as in ‘sit’ and the ‘a’ as in ‘father’. Yup, pih-CAHN. ---
**Author:** ![nicky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f0a364/32.png) [@nicky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nicky)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760/38 "2018-11-03T22:13:52Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > What, do you think Haagen-Dazs is somehow better ice cream than Ben & Jerry’s? I don’t think it is. Both are premium ice creams, with high butterfat content and little air mixed in. I don’t like Haagen-Dazs for the pseudo-Scandinavian name (when, as I remember, it’s actually from New Jersey) while B&J is honest about its Vermont origin story. Admittedly, a Vermont origin story sells better than a New Jersey origin story, unless you’re selling toxic waste in a cup. And I went to college in upstate New York, not far from Vermont and we had a B&J shop on campus, so the nostalgia leads me to favor them. HD is very slightly better ice cream. What matters much more is their flavours are decided by a grown-up, rather than an idiot child who wants to eat candy more than ice cream. ---
**Author:** ![Quercus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7ab992/32.png) [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760/39 "2018-11-05T16:58:36Z")
> [@nicky](#): > > HD is very slightly better ice cream. What matters much more is their flavours are decided by a grown-up, rather than an idiot child who wants to eat candy more than ice cream. If being cranky is what makes you happy, go right ahead. But I suspect you haven’t ever tried New York Super Fudge Chunk, because the reason I like it so much is the fact that the white chocolate chunks are not in fact very sweet (the taste is more salty than sweet) and they, along with the nuts, make a wonderful contrast to the sweet ice cream. (Now Phish Food or something… I’ll agree _that’s_ an overload of candy sweet) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ben-jerry-s-just-being-lazy/823760.md?page=1)