# Is Biden too old?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 28, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405 "2022-09-28T18:35:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/41 "2022-09-29T00:17:17Z")

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Asking if someone that he knows is dead is in the room is not normal cognitive behavior. Neither is shaking hands with people who aren’t there. If it were Trump, y’all would be talking about the 25th Amendment.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/42 "2022-09-29T00:24:37Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Another term of trump and American Democracy is dead. **Does anyone disagree with this, at least in general**

Do I disagree as a flat assertion? Yes. As a very worrying possibility? No.

Not worth the risk of finding out. But I’m not automatically going to flee the country, slash my wrists or start a civil war if that fucking whackadoo somehow does get elected again. I’m just going to be very worried and very vigilant about what happens next in case I do have to make some outré move. Frankly I’d be only slightly less worried by DeSantis - less unhinged, but smarter.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/43 "2022-09-29T00:29:28Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> That hinges on whether or not trump will be running. Biden is the only leading dem who can beat him.

That’s a hell of a statement to make two years in advance about a guy who was a pretty mediocre candidate anyway.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/44 "2022-09-29T01:00:07Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> That’s a hell of a statement to make two years in advance about a guy who was a pretty mediocre candidate anyway.

He beat trump, thereby he was an excellent candidate.

Oh and someone mentioned Sanders. I hope he has the sense god gave a donut and won’t run again.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/45 "2022-09-29T01:19:31Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Those who want a younger president - who can beat trump? If it is the choice between an 81 yo Biden or a 78 yo trump, I know who I will vote for.

If it’s a choice between Pee Wee Herman or a 78 yo Trump, I know who I will vote for. But I’m leaning toward Biden being too old to run in 2024.

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/46 "2022-09-29T03:01:12Z")

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Look, I want a President that is more or less the median age for America.

This whole kurfluffle is based on

1. Biden issued a statement when the lawmaker was killed, and
2. Asked where she was when giving a speech.

Nothing in there that Biden actually know the lawmaker was killed nor that he personally apprroved or issued the statement.

Mao on a pojo stick, Biden is the President of the US of A. Unlike a predecessor, he doesn’t prioritize watch Faux News or calling in to talk shows. He has staff and handlers to deal with minutia of every body and their dog wanting the President to acknowledge something that in the stake of the nation is inconsequential and irrelevant. Shit, go influence Putin from using nukes and let your staff make some warm and fuzzy pronouncements on your behalf.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/47 "2022-09-29T03:10:24Z")

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> [@China\_Guy](#):
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> Nothing in there that Biden actually know the lawmaker was killed nor that he personally apprroved or issued the statement.

He had to have known. He personally called the Representative’s family after the crash.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/48 "2022-09-29T03:22:53Z")

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He was too old 10 years ago. Plenty of younger people can beat Trump

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/49 "2022-09-29T04:18:34Z")

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Not according to any poll. Except MAYBE Harris.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/50 "2022-09-29T04:30:34Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> He had to have known. He personally called the Representative’s family after the crash.

Yes, and once someone knows something they can never forget it except when they have become senile. I know I have never forgotten anything and I’m sure you never have either.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/51 "2022-09-29T04:43:47Z")

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Yeah right. If someone dies, and you call the family to express condolences, it’s not something you’d forget a month later. Unless the call wasn’t sincere in the first place, which is probably the case.

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**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/52 "2022-09-29T04:47:15Z")

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> [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](#):
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> I don’t think asking about Walorski’s presence at a hunger conference is that big of a red flag. Were they close friends or something?

Memory of recent events is the first thing to go when dementia develops. Memory of long-ago events lasts far longer. So this is exactly what we would expect to see IF Biden is slipping into dementia. And since he is privy to a large amount of very sensitive information, and has a great deal of power, the mere possibility of dementia is, indeed, a red flag.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/53 "2022-09-29T05:04:24Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Yeah right. If someone dies, and you call the family to express condolences, it’s not something you’d forget a month later. Unless the call wasn’t sincere in the first place, which is probably the case.

Is that the only family he called to express condolences to? What if he makes such calls every week?

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/54 "2022-09-29T06:07:27Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Then if trump runs, the only person who can & has beaten him is Joe Biden.

Trump: “Only I can fix it!” Biden (words you put in his mouth, not me): “Only I can beat Trump!” Messianism vs Antimessianism? You do have a problem.

> [@DrDeth](#):
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> > [@DPRK](#):
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> > Categorical ageism and forced retirement is equally bad IMO.
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> And bigoted.

I cry antibigotism! Unfair!  
Actually, I cry gross misrepresentation of my position but I hope ridiculing a strawman is a better debating tactic that to argue against it.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/55 "2022-09-29T13:41:03Z")

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If I were Trump, I’d be preparing for my new life as a federal prison inmate. Besides, he doesn’t know the 25th amendment from the 25th Corinthians.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/56 "2022-09-29T13:49:25Z")

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Biden is gaffe-prone. He was saying ridiculous things back in 2008 when he was a new Vice President, and he was only 65. That’s just how he is. It doesn’t indicate diminished capacity or dementia.

Way back in 1987, during his first presidential campaign (yes, that long ago), he snapped at a high school teacher who asked him where he went to law school and declared he probably had a “much higher IQ than you do”. The reaction to that gaffe was bad enough for him to abandon his campaign shortly after. He was 44 at the time. It’s just who he is.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/57 "2022-09-29T15:09:19Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Way back in 1987, during his first presidential campaign (yes, that long ago), he snapped at a high school teacher who asked him where he went to law school and declared he probably had a “much higher IQ than you do”. The reaction to that gaffe was bad enough for him to abandon his campaign shortly after. He was 44 at the time. It’s just who he is.

I thought he abandoned his campaign after proof of plagiarizing some of his speeches. I know the joke was that he was going to drop out of the campaign saying “You won’t have Joe Biden to kick around any more!” (Nixon’s line after losing the 62 California Governor’s campaign)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/58 "2022-09-29T15:22:56Z")

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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> I thought he abandoned his campaign after proof of plagiarizing some of his speeches.

Not just that. He was accused of plagiarism in law school. When you put his exchange in that perspective, it looked really bad.

That has been an issue his whole political and academic career. If you consider too that he’s prone to gaffes when speaking off the cuff, and has always struggled with a speech impediment, it’s no wonder he has needed a crutch for public speaking. (Not that I’m defending it, plagiarism is reprehensible.)

My point is that saying something dumb in public might be a sign of mental decline due to age if such a thing is a change in a person’s behavior. In Biden’s case it’s anything but; it’s a lifelong personality trait.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/59 "2022-09-29T15:34:03Z")

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If the Republicans take the House there are two obstacles between them and retaking the presidency, Biden and Harris. They will then turn their guns (speaking perhaps not merely metaphorically here) on them.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-biden-too-old/972405/60 "2022-09-29T17:53:56Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> They will then turn their guns (speaking perhaps not merely metaphorically here) on them.

Then? Do they have their guns pointed somewhere else now? Winning or losing the House doesn’t matter, they’ve had their ‘guns’ pointed at Biden and Harris since they both announced for 2020.

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