# Is Britney a female flasher **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 30, 2006, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350 "2006-11-30T17:48:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/161 "2006-12-02T05:22:25Z")
[QUOTE=Scotticher] What, exactly, is your problem with me? [/QUOTE] Besides your condescending tone? My memory on what I said is a little fuzzy but I seem to recall it went exactly like this: > [@Cisco](#): > > I still think you’re all overreacting and reading WAY too much into this. _You’re all_. That means **you are all**. That means not just Scotticher. Although, now that you mention it, I think the reading way too much into things part was probably accurate. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/162 "2006-12-02T05:39:19Z")
[QUOTE=Indygrrl] I just think it looks icky. And after thinking about it I came up with the theory that a lot of women might think other women’s bits look bad, a. because we are heterosexual and not turned on by female genitalia, and b. because we haven’t seen very many up close and personal except for in porn or what’s between our own legs. Guys are going to view it a lot differently. [/quote] So, let me get this straight. First, you say that Britney’s bits look “like roast beef” (post #3), “dried up” (post #12), and “grotesque” (post #18). In support of your expertise and qualifications on this topic, you tell us that you are “fortunate enough to only see pretty pussies,” and that “in [your] experience that is NOT how a healthy vagina looks” (post #18). We also learn that you work with “about 50 women” whose “pussies ain’t skeery like that” (post #29). So, you lay claim to expertise about pussies based on the fact that you see “pretty pussies” on a regular basis. Now, after being criticized for your position, you excuse it by noting that you, as a heterosexual woman, are “not turned on by female genitalia,” and that women like you might find other women’s pussies “icky” because you “haven’t seen very many up close and personal except for in porn or what’s between our own legs.” So, which is it? Are you an expert in pussies, someone who sees pussies all the time and is therefore qualified to judge Britney’s pussy? Or are you a novice in pussies, who thinks Britney’s pussy is icky because you don’t have any real experience with pussies. [QUOTE=Indygrrl] I never thought that by criticizing Britney-fucking Spears I’d be putting myself out there for you guys to jump on. [/quote] You can pretend this is about Britney if you like, but the criticism leveled at you in this thread has been about you. It’s not that you’ve criticized Spears that i find annoying; plenty of others have done that. It’s that you’ve spent considerably more time criticizing her (perfectly normal) physique than criticizing her behavior. [QUOTE=Indygrrl] But please, say whatever you want to about me. I know that you don’t know me, and I’m fine with who I am whether y’all like me or not. [/QUOTE] You’re right that we don’t know you. We only know what you post here. Can’t really make judgments based on anything else, can we? And it’s not really about liking or not liking you either. I’m not on some vendetta here. I recently commiserated with you, and defended you, in the thread about your wedding photographer. But your posts in this thread seemed, to me at least, shallow and self-absorbed, and more concerned with making some point about how you and your co-workers are models of physical perfection, than anything else. Is that what you’re really like? I don’t know. But if this thread were my sole source of contact with you, it’s probably the conclusion i’d leap to. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/163 "2006-12-02T05:46:43Z")
[QUOTE=Scotticher] I feel bad for her. [/quote] Condescending. > [@](#): > > I think that this crotch showing stuff has to be intentional. I haven’t seen any of it, but if she did it three times in the past week? She had to be doing it with the knowledge that it was going to be photographed. Therefore, she wanted to be photographed showing her private parts to the world. Based on false pretense. She has done it twice - not three times - which has been pointed out if you had bothered to read the thread. > [@](#): > > That doesn’t show very good judgment, as many of you have pointed out. Parroting. > [@](#): > > She must think that this is a good career move, that is all I can think of that might explain this whole thing. I’m not thinking she was thinking straight when this appeared to her to be a **good idea.** Based solely on your (IMO wrong) presumption that this was intentional. > [@](#): > > But the thing is, she married a man who already had a woman pregnant with their second child when she met him. He was, according to what little I have read, running around spending her money like it was an unending fountain. He appeared to be more interested in partying than in spending time with his family. Judgemental. > [@](#): > > She got pregnant very soon after giving birth to her first child. Judgemental. > [@](#): > > This girl is obviously not overly laden with common sense. Judgemental and rude. > [@](#): > > NONE of this is rational. I know she has a mother, and maybe her mom tried to talk her out of marrying this man. Maybe her mom has tried to talk her out of all of the rest of the stupid stuff she has done. Presumptuous. > [@](#): > > But…it seems to me that she is still operating under the misapprehension that she is a “golden girl” and that nothing she does is wrong. She is in for a rude awakening one of these days. Judgemental, presumptuous, and condescending. > [@](#): > > I feel bad for her. And for her kids. Condescending. This is why your post rubbed me the wrong way. I’m annoyed at this thread in general because of the extent that the claws are out, and I’m even more appalled that it’s mostly women trashing her - or in your case, Scotticher, well, see above. ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/164 "2006-12-02T06:34:34Z")
[QUOTE=mhendo] And it’s not really about liking or not liking you either. I’m not on some vendetta here. I recently commiserated with you, and defended you, in the thread about your wedding photographer. But your posts in this thread seemed, to me at least, shallow and self-absorbed, and more concerned with making some point about how you and your co-workers are models of physical perfection, than anything else. Is that what you’re really like? I don’t know. But if this thread were my sole source of contact with you, it’s probably the conclusion i’d leap to. [/QUOTE] Alright, this is all I’m going to say on the matter, I acknowledged that it was wrong to judge someone (even Britney) so harshly. That was somewhere on page 2. It was after I said those things about her crotch shots. And my theory about why women might not like the looks of her snatch is perfectly valid. It’s true that I have seen a lot of better looking snatches than Britney’s. That doesn’t mean I’m a fucking gynecologist. I said that I was hung up on perfection, but I never said that I was perfect or that anyone I know is perfect. I only said that I work with a lot of ladies who look better than Britney. And that is true. None of them are perfect, but they have it over a washed up pop star. IMO, that’s not terribly difficult to do. Most of us are pretty rigorous in our workout regimens and beauty routines—because our job depends on it. That doesn’t mean any of us think we are perfect, in fact, you’d probably find us to be more critical of ourselves than of each other or of random people And I’ve said more than once that I don’t judge people on their physical appearances, with the exception of the stars of the celebrity gossip pages. It never occurred to me to worry about harming the egos of strangers by commenting on Britney Spears. I’ll be sure to keep my mouth shut when she decides to spread 'em again, well, at least on this forum. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/165 "2006-12-02T09:25:35Z")
[QUOTE=Qadgop the Mercotan] As a man who’s examined thousands of vaginas in my career as a family physician, I have to say this thread is filled with a lot of wrong ideas about what is normal and what is not. [/QUOTE] See, _this_ is the kind of thing that convinces me the medical system is an absolute crock! Most men are willing to _pay_ to see vage, and you guys have the audacity to _charge_ for it! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/166 "2006-12-02T12:21:10Z")
[QUOTE=Biffy the Elephant Shrew] Where the eagles cry, on a mountain high? [/QUOTE] We have our winner, all the way back in post # 25. I got tears, man. 😃 It tells us all we need to know about her. Not that this is a news flash. Her coin of realm is her sexual parts. Pity. History is full of very sexy crooners of the vagina-toting persuasion, and none of them felt the need to air out their holies of holies in public. Trashy is as trashy does. Cartooniverse ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/167 "2006-12-02T12:46:12Z")
> [@](#): > > History is full of very sexy crooners of the vagina-toting persuasion, and none of them felt the need to air out their holies of holies in public. Madonna, Courtney Love, Mariah Carey, Lil Kim, Tori Amos have all made their business public before Spears did. ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/168 "2006-12-02T13:35:42Z")
::: Moderator blows whistle for attention ::: Hey, everyone: **COOL IT.** This is Cafe Society, and this thread is about Britney Spears. It is NOT a thread about other posters. Most of you involved in this cat-fight have a couple thousand posts to your name, and you know better than to hurl personal insults in Cafe Society. > [@mhendo](#): > > You can pretend this is about Britney if you like, but the criticism leveled at you in this thread has been about you. I’m not going to read back through all four pages to figure out who started it, but it’s ending, and NOW. You want to critique **Indygrrl** , you do it in the Pit Forum, not here. In this forum, comments are acceptable if directed at what people say, but not when they are directed at the personalities of other posters. I’m not recording this in the Moderators’ files, I’ll take it as a hiccough in the fabric of space-time, but it’s stopping and stopping fast. Footnote: **Cisco** seems to be criticizing what’s posted, not the poster, and that’s on the OK side of the line, although I haven’t read the whole thread. ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/169 "2006-12-02T13:51:00Z")
Whoa! This is **Cafe Society** , and not the **Pit** , and some of you are coming pretty close to **Pit** behavior. Remember that **Cafe Society** is the forum to discuss and criticize artists and their works; leave the criticisms of other posters in the **Pit**. Please keep in mind that the [personality of the poster](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6769918#post6769918) is not relevant to the discussion. So, calm down and get back to discussing Brittany and her, er… yeah. ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/170 "2006-12-02T13:52:40Z")
Damn you, **Dex**! (Which is a comment about the artistry and timing of his moderation intervention, and not **Dex** himself. ;)) ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/171 "2006-12-02T17:52:57Z")
[QUOTE=SkipMagic] Whoa! This is **Cafe Society** , and not the **Pit** , and some of you are coming pretty close to **Pit** behavior. Remember that **Cafe Society** is the forum to discuss and criticize artists and their works; leave the criticisms of other posters in the **Pit**. Please keep in mind that the [personality of the poster](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6769918#post6769918) is not relevant to the discussion. So, calm down and get back to discussing Brittany and her, er… yeah. [/QUOTE] So now we gotta talk about France? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/172 "2006-12-02T17:54:48Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] So now we gotta talk about France? [/QUOTE] As in, I see London, I see France, I see Britney’s got no underpants? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/173 "2006-12-02T18:03:24Z")
No, as in \*\* Brittany\*\* as posted by **SkipMagic** ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/174 "2006-12-02T18:46:07Z")
Heh - “baby-spitter.” Hee. **Guin** , I mentioned this thread to my husband yesterday, with the comment, “She’s making K-Fed look like the classy one.” :eek: I always wonder about the friends and families of stars involved in public bad behaviour, too. Even if Britney’s mom is as big a piece of work as she is, she must have relatives somewhere who are normal, cringing people. Imagine Britney’s old grandma - surfing the net, tra-la-la, then OHMIGOD! That’s my grandbaby’s hooha! Didn’t anybody ever teach that girl ANYTHING?! ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2006, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/175 "2006-12-03T05:18:05Z")
[QUOTE=featherlou] Imagine Britney’s old grandma - surfing the net, tra-la-la, then OHMIGOD! [/QUOTE] No need to worry on that specific account – both of Britney’s grandmothers are dead, although [one grandfather is still around.](http://www.celebritywonder.com/html/britneyspears.html) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2006, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/176 "2006-12-03T20:33:45Z")
In the interests of making this thread a touch more literary, in honor of this forum, I offer this gem from the song “Doin’ what comes natur’lly”, in _Annie Get your Gun_: > [@](#): > > You don’t have to mix with the Vanderbilts > Not to take off your panties when you’re wearing kilts > That comes natur’lly But then, maybe mixing with old money isn’t the best route to acting natur’lly, in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/177 "2006-12-04T03:47:24Z")
Only in The Straight Dope do we invoke the spirit of Ethel Merman vis a vis Brittany Spears. My god. **Eve** will get a touch of the vapors when she finds out that Brittany reminds me of Lillian Gish. 😃 Cartooniverse ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/178 "2006-12-04T08:42:43Z")
[QUOTE=Cartooniverse] Only in The Straight Dope do we invoke the spirit of Ethel Merman vis a vis Brittany Spears. My god. **Eve** will get a touch of the vapors when she finds out that **Brittany** reminds me of Lillian Gish. 😃 Cartooniverse [/QUOTE] So a region of France reminds you of **Britney** …strange. sorry, couldn’t resist that ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/179 "2006-12-04T13:46:25Z")
[QUOTE=Little Nemo] Madonna, Courtney Love, Mariah Carey, Lil Kim, \*\*Tori Amos \*\* have all made their business public before Spears did. [/QUOTE] Wait- what??? Tori? I had no idea. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350/180 "2006-12-04T15:05:57Z")
Yes, but Tori did it to empower herself and all womynkind. Britney did it because she forgot she had no panties on. (I’m just bs’ing - I have no idea about either one of them.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-britney-a-female-flasher/382350.md?page=10)