# Is Buckner going over the edge? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 9, 2004, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-buckner-going-over-the-edge/249378 "2004-06-09T00:55:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-buckner-going-over-the-edge/249378/1 "2004-06-09T00:55:53Z")
What’s up with locking[this GD thread?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=4943798) Nobody had added anything in more than a day, and the reason you implied: > [@MEBuckner](#): > > **Moderator’s Note:** In the future, **Antiochus** , please try to come up with a better Great Debates OP than “check out this link” (or words to that effect). seems pretty lame for a thread that had already gotten 46 replies and over 1400 views. How did locking down **Antiochus** end up receiving a higher priority than say [shutting an inflammatory thread started by a banned troll?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=260178) ---
**Author:** ![look\_ninjas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@look\_ninjas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/look_ninjas)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-buckner-going-over-the-edge/249378/2 "2004-06-09T01:07:27Z")
I think it was more a “catching up with the paperwork” sort of situation. I started a thread that I didn’t realize was discussing an illegal subject (mixtapes - unauthorized reproduction and distribution of copyrighted work), was informed of my error, and asked to have it closed. It took a few days for it to get locked, by which time the thread had more or less died anyway. Someone probably reported the thread when it started, and **MEBuckner** just didn’t get around to it (perhaps because of the bannings and whatnot) until now. Besides, the inflammatory threads are the fun ones! ---
**Author:** ![Delly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Delly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delly)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-buckner-going-over-the-edge/249378/3 "2004-06-09T01:08:12Z")
Forgive me if Im wrong, I dont think Ive ever even posted in GD, but isnt one of the rules there, when you open a new topic, you have to describe what it is your debating, and then give your opinion on it? The OP didnt, and so like Buckner said, thats why it was locked. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-buckner-going-over-the-edge/249378/4 "2004-06-09T01:19:05Z")
> [@](#): > > Is Buckner going over the edge? Wellnow **Squink** , I know MEB, and even before I read the thread, I know the answer to that question is “No.” ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-buckner-going-over-the-edge/249378/5 "2004-06-09T01:22:09Z")
Well, not in the GWBush sense, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-buckner-going-over-the-edge/249378/6 "2004-06-09T01:23:36Z")
I agree- the answer is no, and the post (even if it spurred some discussion) didn’t follow GD rules. There was no information in it and no arguments were made. ---
**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-buckner-going-over-the-edge/249378/7 "2004-06-09T02:12:53Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > How did locking down **Antiochus** end up receiving a higher priority than say [shutting an inflammatory thread started by a banned troll?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=260178) Or as the famous retort to the cop goes, “Aren’t there some real criminals you could be arresting?” ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-buckner-going-over-the-edge/249378/8 "2004-06-09T02:22:31Z")
Try thinking about it from his point of view. You’ve had a long career in the majors, built up an impressive history of stats, and coming into your last years you were admired by fans and respected by your peers. And now, all anyone remembers you for is that **one god-damn error!** Do they compare your lifetime averages? Do they make bets on how many hits you had in '78? No! All they ever talk about is the fucking “Buckner toll-booth!” You’d go over the edge too, man. ---
**Author:** ![LilyoftheValley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-buckner-going-over-the-edge/249378/9 "2004-06-09T04:06:58Z")
> [@Sublight](#): > > Try thinking about it from his point of view. > > You’ve had a long career in the majors, built up an impressive history of stats, and coming into your last years you were admired by fans and respected by your peers. > > And now, all anyone remembers you for is that **one god-damn error!** Do they compare your lifetime averages? Do they make bets on how many hits you had in '78? No! All they ever talk about is the fucking “Buckner toll-booth!” > > You’d go over the edge too, man. Damn, **Sublight** , you beat me to it. (Although, instead of a tollbooth, I was thinking of the [Buckner Bridge](http://bridges.hntb.com/2a_leonard.htm).) ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-buckner-going-over-the-edge/249378/10 "2004-06-09T10:24:35Z")
You people have no conception of what we Moderators must face! Your puerile minds can’t even imagine the awesome responsibilities that moderating a message board forum entails! How DARE you question ME?!? You’ll see! Every one of you! Soon, you will all TREMBLE at my Moderating decisions! It may have gotten 46 replies, but it wasn’t exactly a shining example of a Great Debates thread. (And _views_ really proves nothing. A lot of real trainwreck threads get lots of views; in fact, they invariably do. Also, locked threads tend to get a lot of views _after_ they’re locked, in the same way that people will rubberneck at emergency vehicles on the side of the highway.) In particular, much of the thread seemed to be devoted to various posters quarrelling with **SallyStar** who has, as previously mentioned, been banned. We don’t necessarily lock down every thread a now-banned poster has started; it depends. The other thread linked to in the OP (which was actually started by **SallyStar** ) seems to be going fine without her. Mad? Mad?!? Oh, they will not call me mad when all my plans have come to pass! ---
**Author:** ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-buckner-going-over-the-edge/249378/11 "2004-06-09T13:11:35Z")
Clear rule in GD. If you want to debate a topic you start by putting forth **your** thoughts. You don’t just say “Everyone look at this. Discuss.” This thread broke that rule. I saw that as soon as I read it. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-buckner-going-over-the-edge/249378/12 "2004-06-09T13:56:13Z")
**Buckner** is considered “over the edge” now? Shit - what the hell does that make _me_? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-buckner-going-over-the-edge/249378/13 "2004-06-09T14:02:10Z")
> [@Futile Gesture](#): > > Clear rule in GD. If you want to debate a topic you start by putting forth **your** thoughts. You don’t just say “Everyone look at this. Discuss.” > > This thread broke that rule. I saw that as soon as I read it. Lots of threads break rules and don’t get locked. I’ve seen some locked for that infraction, others with the same problem not locked. Maybe **MEBuckner** ’s decided to get hardass on that particular rule. I’m OK with that, after all, Lynn’s ban on joke threads in the pit has worked out pretty well. But without a little more explication, it looks like he went out of his way to stab a dead horse. I’m glad to hear him say it’s part of a larger scheme: > [@](#): > > Mad? Mad?!? Oh, they will not call me mad when all my plans have come to pass! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-buckner-going-over-the-edge/249378/14 "2004-06-09T14:05:19Z")
> [@Coldfire](#): > > **Buckner** is considered “over the edge” now? Shit - what the hell does that make _me_? :eek: I thought you were a clog-wearing Nazi. Or am I getting those mod titles mixed up? Dammit, I need a scorecard or something. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-buckner-going-over-the-edge/249378/15 "2004-06-09T14:10:00Z")
> [@Coldfire](#): > > **Buckner** is considered “over the edge” now? Shit - what the hell does that make _me_? :eek: Sexxxxaaayyy ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-buckner-going-over-the-edge/249378/16 "2004-06-09T14:10:03Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > You people have no conception of what we Moderators must face! Your puerile minds can’t even imagine the awesome responsibilities that moderating a message board forum entails! How DARE you question ME?!? > > You’ll see! Every one of you! Soon, you will all TREMBLE at my Moderating decisions! > … > Mad? Mad?!? Oh, they will not call me mad when all my plans have come to pass! IANAMod, so far be it for me to pass judgement, but … you forgot the evil laugh!!! Geeez! :wally ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-buckner-going-over-the-edge/249378/17 "2004-06-09T15:36:52Z")
You’ve _redefined_ the edge, **Clogboy**.