# Is Bush going to go out with a flurry of Presidential pardons like Clinton did? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 10, 2008, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973 "2008-11-10T01:53:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/1 "2008-11-10T01:53:16Z")
[If so](http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,99302,00.html) who’s a likely candidate? ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/2 "2008-11-10T02:02:42Z")
Ted Stevens? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/3 "2008-11-10T02:09:27Z")
Well, I’d suspect he would. Most of them do for one reason or another. My money would be on Scooter Libby appearing on there somewhere, frankly. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/4 "2008-11-10T02:23:48Z")
His list of crooks include many thieves. They are just businessmen is his eyes. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/5 "2008-11-10T02:48:41Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Well, I’d suspect he would. Most of them do for one reason or another. > > My money would be on Scooter Libby appearing on there somewhere, frankly. Isn’t he already pardoned or was that just a commuted sentence? ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/6 "2008-11-10T02:50:30Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Ted Stevens? A freshly convicted felon showing zero signs of contrition? I think he’s a stretch. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/7 "2008-11-10T02:59:03Z")
> [@astro](#): > > Isn’t he already pardoned or was that just a commuted sentence? Commuted sentence. I agree that he is on the list. ---
**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/8 "2008-11-10T03:00:08Z")
[Himself](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBUkxvfL_eE) (YouTube video). ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/9 "2008-11-10T03:02:54Z")
Cheney ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/10 "2008-11-10T03:30:48Z")
Quite possibly Ken Lay. But then again, maybe not. Too hot and it’s not like he’s doing time. ---
**Author:** ![oliversarmy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/eb8c5e/32.png) [@oliversarmy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oliversarmy)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/11 "2008-11-10T03:57:15Z")
I seriously doubt he will pardon anybody for crimes against the United States. Or any others. The only person that should be pardoned has already been pardoned. Are you expecting a Nuremberg tribunal? Seriously? ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/12 "2008-11-10T04:03:46Z")
> [@oliversarmy](#): > > I seriously doubt he will pardon anybody for crimes against the United States. Or any others. The only person that should be pardoned has already been pardoned. > > Are you expecting a Nuremberg tribunal? Seriously? wait …?..what? ---
**Author:** ![smurfslappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@smurfslappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smurfslappa)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/13 "2008-11-10T04:04:11Z")
People on the Texas death row, of course. Haha, just kidding he wouldn’t do that. ---
**Author:** ![oliversarmy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/eb8c5e/32.png) [@oliversarmy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oliversarmy)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/14 "2008-11-10T04:18:08Z")
Sorry. Got carried away. No, I really don’t expect any extraordinary pardons from Bush. He won’t be pardoning Cheney for war crimes or Armitage for exposing CIA agents or anything like that. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/15 "2008-11-10T04:23:36Z")
> [@oliversarmy](#): > > Are you expecting a Nuremberg tribunal? Seriously? Not **expecting,** but it would be fitting. Seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/16 "2008-11-10T04:27:25Z")
> [@Menocchio](#): > > Quite possibly Ken Lay. > > But then again, maybe not. Too hot and it’s not like he’s doing time. Lay’s conviction was vacated after his death. No pardon is necessary. ---
**Author:** ![oliversarmy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/eb8c5e/32.png) [@oliversarmy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oliversarmy)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/17 "2008-11-10T04:29:59Z")
Yes, because, Bush really is a Nazi. I love my all-American concentration camp. We get to play tennis on Tuesdays. Why aren’t you here? Seriously? ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/18 "2008-11-10T04:42:44Z")
> [@oliversarmy](#): > > Yes, because, Bush really is a Nazi. I love my all-American concentration camp. We get to play tennis on Tuesdays. Why aren’t you here? Seriously? Dude, step away from the bong. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/19 "2008-11-10T04:47:31Z")
I would expect the first pardons to be Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973/20 "2008-11-10T04:53:54Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > I would expect the first pardons to be Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean. Did you ever find that cite to the Governor of Hawaii sealing Obama’s birth certificate? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-bush-going-to-go-out-with-a-flurry-of-presidential-pardons-like-clinton-did/471973.md?page=2)