Is Cain's popularity because of his low name recognition?

It would have been slightly less newsworthy if John Boehner hadn’t already done the exact same thing back in November 2009. And I’m sure if Biden had done it, it would get the same coverage.

It’s not that he’s un-PC; it’s that he has some serious gaps in his knowledge, which he admits to, and is not a sufficiently gifted speaker to inspire confidence in spite of them. He seems smart but he’s business-smart, not politics-smart.

McCain was an accomplished politician throughout his career. He’d have won the presidency easily too were it not for the mainstream media giving voice to every nitwit claiming he’d be another Bush.

The goals of Palin? Why, to stop the forty year decline of America and restore it to its former glory of course. :slight_smile: If you want something more specific than that you’ll have to take a look at what she’s said herself. I’ve had a long night and am about to hit the sack.

Yeah, I think we’re pretty much in agreement that he doesn’t have the necessary tools in his political toolbox.

So the whole thing about him pausing his campaign to go to Washington to help craft a bailout, followed by him doing…well, not much…you don’t think that hurt him at all? You don’t think selecting Sarah Palin didn’t hurt him with the moderates? It’s all the mainstream media’s fault? He would have got away with it if it weren’t for those meddling kids?

No, the GOP was its own worst enemy in the McCain campaign. A lot of people who liked the bold, uncompromising McCain of 2000 loathed the bland, compromised McCain of 2008. And Palin was a mistake. A big, big mistake.

If he’d played his cards right, taken a more realistic view and schmoozed the right people in the GOP I could have seen him as VP material, throwing out quips and potshots without having to take the full brunt of being the presidential candidate. He’d probably have held up against Biden in a debate with the backing and coaching of the party (certainly better than Palin did; Cain at least understands financials). But I think he may have burnt that bridge already.

Like I said, I’m hitting the sack. We can debate what McCain shoulda/woulda done tomorrow (or later today, actually) if you want to then.

Nah. I’ll go back to discussing Cain and not his Scottish cousin.

Cain’s an interesting guy and a good speaker, but being a good business executive DOES NOT translate into being a good governmental one. In business when you’re the boss you give orders and your underlings comply or get fired. In government, the Congress has its own power centers apart from the President even within the same party. There’s a lot more negotiation and give and take between leaders. If Cain got elected and he told Congress to “Jump” no one of either party would do so.

No, you have not. There was and is, as you know, NO legitimate reason to have what you call “questions” or “concerns” over these subjects. To therefore speculate on the motivations of those who, like yourself, insist on spreading them anyway is entirely legitimate, and the appropriate focus of any such discussion.

You can tell yourself all you like that it wasn’t really stupidity or lies or surrogate racism, but that can never make it the truth.

What, you mean being born in Hawaii?

Cain doesn’t have a chance. His pizza sucks. What, you think the people won’t remember that on e-day?!

Herman Cain wants “small bills!”

(Worn, of course, and no consecutive serial numbers, please.)