Please…Captain Jack on Torchwood has Kirk beat six ways to Sunday on the “anything that moves” front.
Yeah! He’s like one of my exes, trisexual. If it’s sexual, try it.
Hell, for Captain John Hart, it doesn’t even have to be moving.
That’s why I brought the Animated Series episode with the devil and magic where he created a female companion up. Horrible episode, but that’s pretty much all we have on him even vaguely on screen.
Sulu gay? Oh, no no no no.
Berman has something of a reputation for trying to keep homosexuality out of Star Trek. Andy Mangels had quite a bit to say on the subject at SDCC’s Prism panel a few years back, mostly about having to actually sneak LGBT characters into the novels on Berman’s watch. Berman also stated that Lt. Hawk was definitely heterosexual.
Well, Mangels clearly blames the lack of gays on Star Trek on Berman, sure.
Oh, also, “The Offspring” was before Roddenbury died. I think Berman’s attitude was that homosexuality was just too controversial a subject to address directly, and that en episode like “The Outcast” was supportive of homosexuality without actually bringing it up and upsetting people.
According to Word of God, The Animated Series is not canonical. But, then again, neither are the books.
Did they ever deal with Scotty’s massive weight gain in the novels? You’d think that by the 23rd (or whatever) century they’d have that under control.
Which is why I mentioned it being depreciated, BigT. However, parts of the Animated Series are canonical. Yesteryear’s pretty much entire contents, the depiction of Vulcan et al, James Tiberius Kirk showed up in VI, Amanda Greyson’s last name, various planets, the holodeck, Caitians show in IV, and, of course, Robert April’s first command of the Enterprise.
See, I thought that episode was great because it DIDN’T wipe your face in it, it just set up a situation where a good person was forced to hide their true selves, and made undergo unwanted medical treatment to change the part of them that society didn’t like.
I thought it was actually more effective.
I was a teenager when that episode came out and even at the time I thought they did “wipe your face” in the whole gay thing. It was about as subtle as a bag of hammers being dropped on someone’s head.
This was the problem. Not only did it try to redirect the issue onto some other, non-real-world therefore non-controversial metaphor, it was “afterschool special” quality. This wasn’t even what the fans who wanted gays in Star Trek were talking about. We were complaining about not seeing gay-as-everyday-thing in this future where human racial and gender discriminations were apparently non-existent. That could have been handled by simply having background extras of the same sex seen having quiet dinners together in 10-Forward or holding hands in the solarium or nameless male lieutenant mentioning in casual conversation that it’s his and John’s anniversary tonight so don’t put me on-call. Instead we got this pot o’ message that wasn’t even a direct metaphor! It was really a terribly disappointing episode.
It was an attempt to make everybody happy that made nobody happy. It was so they could say to the gay fans, “There, we made a gay episode, now leave us alone.”, while at the same time saying to the antigay “family decency” groups and skittish sponsors, “No, you see, these are aliens. It’s not offensive at all. Please don’t boycott Paramount/pull your ads.” That second was a real fear, and in fact, not too long after, Proctor and Gamble, which was the major advertiser for Deep Space 9, pulled all their ads from a DS9 episode that showed two women kissing.
Unfortunately, like most attempts to make everybody happy, it didn’t work.
Who? Memory Alpha has no Akira Sulu article, and the Demora article mentions no children. I also tried googling, and this thread is on the first page of the results.
Robert April’s still not really canon, and we don’t know that those were Caitians, as they were just background characters that were never addressed or ever seen again.
Akira Sulu is Admiral Quinn’s aide de camp, of course. (Star Trek Online.) The quote ‘Where’s Sulu?’ is now going to echo the world with ‘Where’s Mankirk’s Wife’ and ‘Where are the Lost in King’s Row?’
Anyhow, so, there we go.
Reading over that on wiki (I’d never even heard of it before), I see the Romulans have been shafted again.
I hate Klingons.
Johnathan Frakes would have been happy to have played Riker falling for a male alien IIRC in that episode and thought the Trek approach was all about the raging lesbians of outer space or some such thing.
Wow, who knew the Salvation Army supported gays?
Actually, it is an indicator. Straight males have biological children at a much higher rate than gay males — roughly four times more often. It’s not a conclusive indicator, but it is an indicator.