# Is Carol Stream good for anything on these boards? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 19, 2009, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509 "2009-07-19T04:50:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/81 "2009-07-20T00:34:33Z")
> [@tumbleddown](#): > > The minority viewpoint that it’s acceptable discourse to refer to other posters as [dumb snatches](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11356243&postcount=733)? That’s valuable? In the Pit, name calling is standard. However, considering that’s pretty much ALL she’s good for, it’s kind of a waste. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/82 "2009-07-20T00:40:06Z")
Inspiration! “That deaf dumb and blind snatch, sure plays a mean foosball…”! Yeah! I’ll call it “Timmy”! ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/83 "2009-07-20T00:48:23Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > Yes, that’s exactly what I said. :rolleyes: It’s not what you said, but since you failed to provide any examples of this valuable minority viewpoint, I had to go with what was available to me. Would you care to point out some of this valuable minority viewpoint that Carol Stream allegedly provides? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/84 "2009-07-20T00:55:11Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It’s because **after a considerable amount of time here** in which pile-ons occurred virtually every time I tried to argue the conservative POV, and after a considerable amount of time in which I saw posters even such as **Sam Stone** and **Bricker** and **Scylla** reviled and insulted and their perfectly valid points scorned and disregarded, I decided to fight fire with fire and give as good as I get. Bullshit. I remember when you joined the SDMB, I recall your behavior when you first started posting, and you damn near got banned as a troll in the very first thread you entered because you leaped right in with the broadbrush liberal-bashing and the pissy vitriol and the citeless, I’m right and you all are wrong intransigence that you regularly get pilloried for. You weren’t forced, alas, _forced_ reluctantly to do battle; that was your modus operandi from the git-go. Oh, you dialed it back at first, when I and others like **Zoe** pointed out what trouble you were diving headlong into; but the true you couldn’t stay repressed for long, could it? Yeh, I tried to be your friend; I looked for the good in you and defended you to others on this board for quite a while, till your continued course of conduct finally wore out all the good will I had for you. I’m sure you see me as a nasty hypocritical backstabbing liberal who turned on you for no good reason, because you really don’t perceive how you come across. Too bad. So be it. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/85 "2009-07-20T01:04:11Z")
> [@tumbleddown](#): > > It’s not what you said, but since you failed to provide any examples of this valuable minority viewpoint, I had to go with what was available to me. So in the absence of simply _asking me what I meant,_ you made up something and deliberately misattributed it as my viewpoint on the SDMB? > [@](#): > > Would you care to point out some of this valuable minority viewpoint that Carol Stream allegedly provides? Her viewpoint of far, far less government involvement in our lives, as well as a rollback of social services, is a valid viewpoint which seems in the minority on this message board. It may not be one I agree with in any specific or most cases, but it’s a valid minority viewpoint. ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/86 "2009-07-20T01:22:06Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > So in the absence of simply _asking me what I meant,_ you made up something and deliberately misattributed it as my viewpoint on the SDMB? I didn’t misattribute anything. I gave an example of what Carol Stream has to offer and asked if that’s what you were referring to. My post was comprised of two questions. I **did** ask you what you meant. > [@](#): > > Her viewpoint of far, far less government involvement in our lives, as well as a rollback of social services, is a valid viewpoint which seems in the minority on this message board. It may not be one I agree with in any specific or most cases, but it’s a valid minority viewpoint. It might be a valid viewpoint if the way she couched it were realistic, but this is a woman who has said that she doesn’t benefit from the existence of police. She’s not a good representative of “less government involvement” position, she’s a representative of libertopian moonbattery. With a filthy mouth and a penchant for slinging invective when she doesn’t want or more frequently, is incapable of refuting someone else’s point or cite. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/87 "2009-07-20T01:31:47Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Bullshit. I remember when you joined the SDMB, I recall your behavior when you first started posting, and you damn near got banned as a troll in the very first thread you entered because you leaped right in with the broadbrush liberal-bashing and the pissy vitriol and the citeless, I’m right and you all are wrong intransigence that you regularly get pilloried for. You weren’t forced, alas, _forced_ reluctantly to do battle; that was your modus operandi from the git-go. Oh, you dialed it back at first, when I and others like **Zoe** pointed out what trouble you were diving headlong into; but the true you couldn’t stay repressed for long, could it? Do you realize what you’ve just said here? One, that I jumped in posting just like I do now from the very get go; and two, that I dialed it back. The dialing back is exactly what I was referring to. My first (contentious) thread, IIRC, was in regard to what I regard as the improper use of the word “homophobe” as an epithet to portray people as phobic when they aren’t. I was ultimately advised by a family member who posts here about the cite traditions and other board customs, and I apologized and began to try to observe those customs and traditions. It was at that point that you began to try to cloak yourself in the veneer of wise old sage patiently guiding the newbie. And for a while I did try to observe board traditions and customs. Until I began to see that cite requests were no more than attempts at obfuscation. That my opponents had no more interest in what a cite said that what I said to begin with, and then I began to notice that I was being deluged with cites on subjective matters for which no cite could possibly exist. So I simply decided not to play that game. But the fact remains that for quite some time I tried posting here in good faith, but given that my points of view were conservative, it got me nowhere. So finally I decided, fuck it, I’ll just fight fire with fire and give 'em as good as I get. > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Yeh, I tried to be your friend; I looked for the good in you and defended you to others on this board for quite a while, till your continued course of conduct finally wore out all the good will I had for you. Yeah, you were happy to be my friend as long as you could position yourself as the wise old sage taking the newbie in under her wing, but as soon as it became apparent I wasn’t taking your by-then hypocritical advice to heart, you morphed into an enemy. > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > I’m sure you see me as a nasty hypocritical backstabbing liberal who turned on you for no good reason, because you really don’t perceive how you come across. Too bad. So be it. Bullshit, your own self. You turned on me because in addition to being a backstabbing liberal hypocrite who regularly pilloried me for generalizations I made about liberals but had not a word to say about the dozens if not hundreds of negative generalizations made around here about conservatives, you also developed a tendency to grossly mischaracterize my posts, my beliefs and my behavior. In other words, you began to portray me dishonestly and and make false claims about what I’d said and believed, and when challenged to back up your words, you slunk away back into the ether until the next time I said something that pissed you off, and then it was a case of, as **Shodan** says, lather, rinse and repeat. I’m still friends with **Zoe** because she makes allowances for our differences, as I do also with her. You insisted upon hypocritically calling me on my generalizations…generalizations which are necessary for conversation and which virtually everyone engages in, while either ignoring or cheering generalizations about my side. You’re a hypocrite, a phony, and a liar. As far as I’m concerned you can stuff it! ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/88 "2009-07-20T01:35:35Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Bolding mine – when was THIS??? :eek: The same moment of karma when you showed me compassion for my dog situation, you fucking hag. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/89 "2009-07-20T02:09:50Z")
Psst… **Starving Artist**. Take it from another rightie, this pitting has nothing whatsoever to do with political views. Really. Honest. You’re not doing conservatives any favors by acting paranoid. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/90 "2009-07-20T02:15:25Z")
Thanks for the advice, but I’m perfectly aware that the thread isn’t about politics. I also backed out when the OP asked me to and have largely stayed out, but in my opinion **ETF’s** false recounting of our history demanded rebuttal. (Isn’t paranoia when you only _think_ they’re talking about you?) 😉 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/91 "2009-07-20T02:27:38Z")
OK, not paranoia, but the one where you wish they’re talking about you. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/92 "2009-07-20T02:31:50Z")
Palinoia. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/93 "2009-07-20T02:35:18Z")
I think you just won the thread. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/94 "2009-07-20T02:38:47Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Now see? You went and blew all your credibility with this immature little, uh, ejaculation. Since you agree personal attacks like that blow credibility I have a cite you’ll you have to agree shows you have no personal credibility. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/95 "2009-07-20T03:19:22Z")
> [@ashman165](#): > > That’s . . . deep. I thought so too. First time I’ve ever bolded any of _my own_ text. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/96 "2009-07-20T03:36:34Z")
> [@supergoose](#): > > Yes - provoking hilarious **Vinyl Turnip** posts. I acknowlege a debt of gratitude. So many “straight men” eventually tire of pies in the face, but \*\*Carol \*\*is unusually dedicated to her craft. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/97 "2009-07-20T03:42:04Z")
Mmmm…pie. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/98 "2009-07-20T04:45:43Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Mmmm…pie. Get a job ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/99 "2009-07-20T04:50:32Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > Get a job Get a hobby ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509/100 "2009-07-20T04:52:33Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Get a hobby Get a jobby. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-carol-stream-good-for-anything-on-these-boards/503509.md?page=6)