# Is Casey Anthony Guilty? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 11, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124 "2011-06-11T16:38:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/1 "2011-06-11T16:38:54Z")
Pretty self explanatory Feel free to offer your theory ---
**Author:** ![Turble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Turble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turble)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/2 "2011-06-11T16:53:34Z")
I’d vote for “Not enough information yet.” Personally, I think the defense has enough plausibility that I would like to at least hear what they have to say. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/3 "2011-06-11T17:06:03Z")
I’m pretty certain she killed her daughter. I am much less certain that she killed her daughter _on purpose_. Now, even if she didn’t \*intend \*her daughter to die while duct-taped quiet in the trunk and drugged on xanax (Nanny Zanny), that’s still flagrant child-abuse, and deserves to be punished as such. ---
**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/4 "2011-06-11T17:09:39Z")
> [@Turble](#): > > I’d vote for “Not enough information yet.” > > Personally, I think the defense has enough plausibility that I would like to at least hear what they have to say. “Not enough information yet.” I should have added that as a neutral choice. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/5 "2011-06-11T17:38:32Z")
The defense’s theory makes no sense. There’s no information they could present that would make me believe Caylee’s death was the result of an accidental drowning. However, if they hadn’t said that George helped with the cover-up, I’d be more likely to consider the possibility. Casey might have been terrified of her mother’s reaction, but George? Nuh uh. ---
**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/6 "2011-06-11T17:42:38Z")
My 200 pesos: Accidental death from chloroform. She appears to be a major party girl and Caylee cramped her style. Chloroform is much cheaper than a babysitter. (that an average 23 year old might not be able to afford.) Knock the kid out and let’s go party. Until it all went wrong… ---
**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/7 "2011-06-11T19:57:13Z")
Guilty of manslaughter. I agree with raindog, I think she meant for the baby to go to sleep, and accidentally killed her. Reminds me of the time some folks put whiskey in a baby’s bottle of milk so that it would sleep. It slept alright. It never woke up either. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/8 "2011-06-11T20:15:33Z")
> [@raindog](#): > > My 200 pesos: > > Accidental death from chloroform. > > She appears to be a major party girl and Caylee cramped her style. > > Chloroform is much cheaper than a babysitter. (that an average 23 year old might not be able to afford.) > > Knock the kid out and let’s go party. > > Until it all went wrong… Goddamn, that’s dark, and, IMO, makes it worse. ---
**Author:** ![icebeamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a8b319/32.png) [@icebeamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icebeamer)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/9 "2011-06-11T21:48:15Z")
I joined this particular board because it seems as though there are some that share my views. I think there is much more to this story. I agree that she did something but that it went horribly wrong. Something she wasn’t counting on and then freaked out with whatever happened after that. I feel in my gutt that there is another person involved; that she did not do this alone. That’s just my feeling though. I can’t participate on the Facebook pages because everyone just makes blanket statements “she should fry” and so forth. It’s not that easy. Well, it shouldn’t be that easy anyway. I believe that at one time she had a loving relationship with her daughter. I just can’t believe in my heart that she premeditated a murder like this. She shows too much emotion. I live in the Detroit area and see all the time murderers on the news who show no remorse and no emotion for taking a life. People said, oh she better show emotion when they start showing the evidence, and then when she did, people were saying the tears were fake. I’m sorry but I just can’t participate in that. Mostly these are facebook posts. I just wanted to know if there were other people that thought like I did. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/10 "2011-06-11T22:04:53Z")
**icebeamer** , yeah, we’ll never know what really happened. I know I couldn’t handle it – I’d have to confess. No way I’d be able to keep up a front like Casey’s been doing for the past three years. Something else I’ll never understand is the nanny, Zenaida. Reports are that Casey talked about this particular nanny since Caylee was a baby. If that’s true, then she invented Zenaida well before she saw the name on a list at the apartment building. That’s too much of a coincidence and makes me think there might have been a real Zenaida at some point. But if that’s true, then why no Zenaida at any of the three apartment buildings Casey directed people to? Was there some reason Casey wouldn’t want Zenaida found? Something that, if it came out, would be worse than child neglect? Damn. Now I feel like I’m channeling Nancy Grace. Ugh. Get if off me!! ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2011, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/11 "2011-06-12T00:05:46Z")
Obviously guilty. Life without parole. Edit: Occam’s Razor. It was no accident. Although I admit I haven’t given it nearly as much thought as the rest of you apparently have. ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/12 "2011-06-12T00:09:28Z")
I feel so strongly she is guilty. I think she should spend the rest of her life in prison and party! with lime jello on Fridays, a carton of Kools, and the occasional prun-o cocktail. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/13 "2011-06-12T01:58:04Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2011, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/14 "2011-06-12T02:10:15Z")
She was chloroforming the kid and the kid died. End of story. Whether it was technically intentional is a moot point both legally (under felony murder) and morally. I don’t buy that anyone else is involved, and I can’t think of a theory of innocence that doesn’t strain credulity to the breaking point. Her complete and utter lack of any emotional reaction or concern the day after (according to her phony story) she found the kid dead shows her up as one of the more chilling sociopaths in recent memory. Something is profoundly broken in that bitch. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2011, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/15 "2011-06-12T02:16:02Z")
I believe she’s guilty, but not necessarily of premeditated murder. She obviously made some really horrible choices and acted totally irresponsibly toward her daughter. I mean who the hell makes her own chloroform and gives it to their kid so they can go out partying? And then there’s the duct tape. The really sad thing is that if she really didn’t want the kid, there were so many alternatives that she must have known about, like giving the girl to her own parents or taking her to a hospital. So it seems that she was just acting really irresponsibly and something went horribly wrong. So she made some very bad choices and has to bear responsibility for what she did. Guilty. Life with no parole. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/16 "2011-06-14T00:36:32Z")
She’ll be found guilty. But, her defense has been so inept that it’s bound to get reversed on appeal. That means another trial and I’m sure she’ll get convicted again. I’ve never seen such a bumbler in court as Baez. This info on him says it all. The guy has nearly zero experience and now he’s defending a murder case with a death penalty? scary stuff. > [@](#): > > It has taken a while for Baez to establish himself as a defense lawyer. Despite graduating from law school in 1997, the Navy veteran was denied admission to the Florida bar for eight years until 2005. > > An order by the Supreme Court of Florida states that he was denied admission because of his failure to pay child support to his ex-wife and secure life and health insurance for his teenage daughter. It states that he had previously declared bankruptcy, written bad checks and defaulted on student loans, the court said. > **[Casey Anthony's Lawyer Jose Baez Has Trials of His Own](https://abcnews.go.com/US/casey-anthony-trial-defense-attorney-jose-baez/story?id=13784113)** > > Jose Baez, Casey Anthony's defense attorney, has been fighting to prove his credibility since he started defending the Florida woman accused of murdering her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee. Baez, who was not allowed to join the bar for eight years... ---
**Author:** ![keturah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e95f7d/32.png) [@keturah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keturah)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/17 "2011-06-14T02:22:28Z")
I think she routinely gave her kid Xanax and joked to her friends that she used “zanny the nanny” as her child care and put her in the trunk of her car while she partied. When she got concerned that someone could hear Caylee if she woke up she also used duct tape to muffle her. Maybe Caylee even woke up once and she needed to find a solution to quiet her. I don’t think she wanted her to die, rather she didn’t want her to cramp her style and had probably used this technique successfully multiple times. That being said I don’t think I can call it simply manslaughter or child abuse, it is just too far past the line for any reasonable defense of her behavior if this is the actual scenario. If this is truly the way things happened Casey is an incredibly horrifying person lacking any shred of…I lack the words…empathy maybe? As far as punishment, I am not sure that anything will be able to affect her and act as punishment. For someone this self absorbed and narcissistic everything will be about how it affects her and never will she feel terrible about Caylee. I voted guilty + death penalty. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/18 "2011-06-14T02:39:39Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > She was chloroforming the kid and the kid died. End of story. Whether it was technically intentional is a moot point both legally (under felony murder) and morally. I don’t buy that anyone else is involved, and I can’t think of a theory of innocence that doesn’t strain credulity to the breaking point. > > Her complete and utter lack of any emotional reaction or concern the day after (according to her phony story) she found the kid dead shows her up as one of the more chilling sociopaths in recent memory. Something is profoundly broken in that bitch. Nailed it. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/19 "2011-06-14T02:49:29Z")
> [@keturah](#): > > I think she routinely gave her kid Xanax and joked to her friends that she used “zanny the nanny” as her child care and put her in the trunk of her car while she partied. When she got concerned that someone could hear Caylee if she woke up she also used duct tape to muffle her… As royally fuckered up as it sounds, I think this is probably as close to what really happened as we will ever know… Adoption would have allowed a beautiful young child to still be enjoying life as a beloved, cherished, (probably spoiled) 5 year-old little girl as we speak, and Casey would currently be free to troll the bars and clubs of Orlando, sharing her sweet, toned, taut little backside with anyone who could buy her another $4.50 Long Island and a couple of generic Percocet. ---
**Author:** ![Susanann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@Susanann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Susanann)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/20 "2011-06-14T03:29:06Z")
> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#): > > Adoption would have allowed a beautiful young child to still be enjoying life as a beloved, cherished, (probably spoiled) 5 year-old little girl as we speak, a. I would eagerly adopt her and give her a wonderful happy childhood [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124.md?page=2)