# Is Casey Anthony Guilty? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 11, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124 "2011-06-11T16:38:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/81 "2011-06-22T18:06:54Z")
I hope I don’t get a warning for calling you delusional. But if I do, it will be worth it. ---
**Author:** ![Susanann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@Susanann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Susanann)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/82 "2011-06-22T18:09:10Z")
Frankly, the only one in the Anthony family behaving normally, and believably, is Caylee’s grandmother. I do not think the grandmother had anything to do with the death, nor with the coverup. ---
**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/83 "2011-06-22T18:11:22Z")
> [@StGermain](#): > > I’ve had dogs all my life, I currently have 6. Never has one buried a bone. And the area the skeleton was found was a swamp for much of the time. I would guess sediment happens. > > StG And certainly my dogs were known to dig some shit up from time to time. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/84 "2011-06-22T18:28:12Z")
> [@Susanann](#): > > Not really. Not if\*\* George\*\* buried the body. The body was probably there as short as at least 2 weeks, and maybe as long as since\*\* George\*\* buried it months ago. > > I am sure that **George** , and any ex cop , has seen plenty of (innocent and guilty) people being arrested and convicted on circumstances with no more proof than what could have been used against George. After all, it was \*\*George’s pool \*\*where Caylee died. It was **Georges ladder** that was left out. It was **George’s negligence** that caused the death. > > I am sure that\*\* George\*\* thought the same thoughts as the Casino Godfather: > “Why take a chance?” What evidence for any of this is there outside of the defense’s theory? If there were any, surely that would have been first on the defenses list of things to present - even if they were not allowed to directly implicate George - even though they did attempt to implicate him. (he is not, after all, on trial here) ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/85 "2011-06-22T19:00:40Z")
> [@icebeamer](#): > > She shows too much emotion. > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Her complete and utter lack of any emotional reaction or concern the day after (according to her phony story) she found the kid dead shows her up as one of the more chilling sociopaths in recent memory. > [@rhubarbarin](#): > > a sociopath with stunted emotional response, and a total inability to empathize with others > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > How anyone can drive around for days with their own dead toddler in the trunk of the car and feel absolutely nothing about it is beyond my understanding. Inhuman to the point of non-human. One of these things is not like the others. **icebeamer** , do you really see an emotional Casey Anthony? ---
**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/86 "2011-06-22T19:03:42Z")
**Susanann** , my question in the “accidential drowning” fantasy is “WHY?” George is an ex-cop. He knows - we all know - accidents happen with small children and swimming pools. Wouldn’t his first reaction to his granddaughter’s drowning to be to call 911 and attempt CPR? If it was an accident, why deny his grandchild the dignity of a proper burial? Wrapping her up in garbage bags and throwing her in the woods? I just don’t buy it. The defense is trying to introduce doubt - reasonable or not - in the hopes there will be someone like you on the jury who will decide “I don’t like the D.A. so I’m going to vote not guilty and let this crazy-ass bitch slide for killing her kid”. ---
**Author:** ![Turble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Turble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turble)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/87 "2011-06-22T19:25:47Z")
Just a fer instance: If George had recently performed some sort of sex act with Caylee he would not have wanted to call 911. ---
**Author:** ![Susanann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@Susanann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Susanann)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/88 "2011-06-22T20:58:22Z")
> [@SnakesCatLady](#): > > **Susanann** , my question in the “accidential drowning” fantasy is “WHY?” George is an ex-cop. He knows - we all know - accidents happen with small children and swimming pools. Wouldn’t his first reaction to his granddaughter’s drowning to be to call 911 and attempt CPR? ". No. The legal experts on tv have all said that even if the death was accidental, that Casey would still be guilty of a felony and be going to prison. Since it was really George’s fault, Georges pool, Georges ladder, on George’s watch, then it would be George who would be on trial and be facing prison time. George had every reason to cover this up. He had no idea that this would be a national news story, he probably assumed that Caylee would be 1 among tens of thousands of missing children each year. Once George found the dead child and realized that she was gone there was no point to call 911, and everything to lose if he was charged with a felony crime. Since Casey did not do it, that is why the only thing anyone will ever find is circumstantial and conflicting, there will always be loose ends, because she did not do it. If anyone thinks that Casey did it then there will always be missing pieces since she did not do it. Once you realize it was **George!!!** ,then all the pieces of this case make sense and everything fits together just like a brand new jigsaw puzzle. ---
**Author:** ![Susanann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@Susanann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Susanann)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/89 "2011-06-22T21:04:09Z")
> [@simster](#): > > If there were any, surely that would have been first on the defenses list of things to present - even if they were not allowed to directly implicate George - even though they did attempt to implicate him. (he is not, after all, on trial here) NO, the defense can not use this time to prosecute George, it is not their responsiblity, and the judge, and the prosecution, would not let them go after George. George is not on trial, Casey is on trial. The defense is limited with very narrow parameters in what they can bring up against George, this is not a 1950’s tv show. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/90 "2011-06-22T21:33:45Z")
**Susanann** - There are approximately 200 child drownings in the US every year. From reviewing the online articles, [most people aren’t charged with negligence](http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Jun-01-Thu-2006/news/7709370.html), unless, [as in the case of this mother](http://www.startribune.com/local/south/11593036.html), they leave the children unattended and are shopping online. And even she was only charged with 2nd degree manslaughter. The courts realize that accidents happen. Unless she was in a drug-induced coma at the time she was supervising the child, she would’ve been okay. And George, as he wasn’t in charge of the girl at the time, should be free of any charges. Out of curiosity, why are you so determined that she’s innocent? StG ---
**Author:** ![kapri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4491bb/32.png) [@kapri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kapri)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/91 "2011-06-22T21:40:58Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > There are coyotes in Florida, but not “lots of them”, particularly in suburban Orange County. I’ve lived here for 15 years and have yet to see one. I’ve lived here for 20 years and never seen one. I won’t say there are none, particularly in the airport area, but I’ve never seen one here and don’t know anyone who has. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/92 "2011-06-22T21:47:59Z")
> [@Susanann](#): > > NO, the defense can not use this time to prosecute George, it is not their responsiblity, and the judge, and the prosecution, would not let them go after George. George is not on trial, Casey is on trial. The defense is limited with very narrow parameters in what they can bring up against George, this is not a 1950’s tv show. The defense isn’t behaving like they’re “limited”. They’ve accused George of participating in a cover-up and they intend to bring in a witness who says she and George had an affair. They could just as easily have done what you’re doing – accuse George of being responsible for Caylee’s death – **but since there’s no evidence of that** and not even Casey has suggested it, the defense is not going there. I can’t figure out why you are. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/93 "2011-06-22T22:03:33Z")
> [@StGermain](#): > > Out of curiosity, why are you so determined that she’s innocent? > [@Susanann](#): > > A dog can fetch a duck or pheasant and close down its mouth so softly that not even a feather is rustled. Good dogs are trained so that they can fetch live/tied up birds without harming them in anyway. How much more clear could it possibly be? ## What more convincing proof of Casey’s innocence is needed? I am currently raising money to present to Casey after she is exonerated, once this crucial new evidence is offered in court, which will allow her to freely travel these United States, pretending to work at all of the major theme parks (Assistant Marketing Executive at Disneyland, Human Resource Director at Six Flags, Log Flume Technician at Knott’s Berry Farm) so she can finally get a sense of closure and continue doing what she loves… ---
**Author:** ![Susanann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@Susanann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Susanann)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/94 "2011-06-22T22:12:40Z")
> [@StGermain](#): > > Out of curiosity, why are you so determined that she’s innocent? > StG I came into this trial, as any other, presuming innocence. Presuming innocence is where we should start. Nothing I have heard has **proven** her guilty. The government did not prove her guilty. The state could not come up with anything other than circumstantial, and most of that was conflicting. Furthermore, there are too many loose ends, too many unexplained points, too many unanswered questions, too many inconsistencies in Casey’s behavior, too many inconsistencies in the government case. The reason why the state can only come up with conflicting contradictatory points is because the simple fact is that Casey is not guilty, so of course the state will never ever find anything other than circumstantial and the state will never ever be able to explain the case since they are going after the wrong person. The more and more we hear, the less and less it was Casey. The more and more home movies I see shows Casey to be a loving mother, with no motive. However, the more I hear, the more that everything points to George, the more that everything fits George. If it was **George** who found the body, if it was **George** who did the cover up, if it was **George** who owned the swimming pool, if it was **George** who left the ladder up, if it was **George** who was negligent, if it was **George** who was responsible for the death, if it was **George** who decided to do a coverup, if it was **George** who did the coverup, if it was **George** and not Casey who had the motive, if it was\*\* George\*\* who knew that he should and how to tape up a body so it wont leak, if it was **George** who might have had other things/crimes in his past, if it was **George** who had nothing to lose and everything to gain, if it was **George** who did inappropriate things with Casey or Caylee, then it all makes sense. The more and more we hear of George and his past, if it was George who had a mistress, if it was George who wanted to commit suicide, then the more more and it makes sense that George was responsible. Pretty simple really. ---
**Author:** ![Susanann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@Susanann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Susanann)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/95 "2011-06-22T22:21:29Z")
> [@kapri](#): > > I’ve lived here for 20 years and never seen one.. How many wild bear have you seen in Florida in the past 20 years? How many weasels have you seen in Florida? How many bobcat have you seen in Florida? The fact of the matter is that there ARE coyotes in Florida, and also there ARE dogs in Florida. Just because “you” dont see them does not mean that they are not there. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/96 "2011-06-22T22:23:06Z")
> [@Susanann](#): > > Pretty simple really. My thoughts exactly… ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/97 "2011-06-22T23:03:23Z")
> [@Susanann](#): > > How many wild bear have you seen in Florida in the past 20 years? > How many weasels have you seen in Florida? > How many bobcat have you seen in Florida? I’ve seen three bears. I’ve never seen a bobcat or a weasel, but I’ve also never seen anyone finger them as suspects in a murder trial. I mean, it’s _possible_ that a coyote buried the bone, but it’s not _likely_. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2011, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/98 "2011-06-23T00:53:44Z")
**Really Not All That Bright** - Papa Bear, Mama Bear and Baby Bear? StG ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2011, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/99 "2011-06-23T01:09:08Z")
Well, Casey’s “crack” team will get a second chance to save her guilty ass because this trial is going to a definite mistrial. Just watch. Early on in the investigation, Casey was being interrogated by detectives and she hadn’t been given her Miranda warning. They actually did a very effective job at interrogating her (save the Miranda error) and gleaned very useful info. But, like I said, it’s all for naught. As an aside, to guage the desperation of the defense, just look at their latest strategy: saying that Casey had suffered a lifetime of sexual abuse at the hands of her father and brother. Upon closer examination of their family life and past quotes from Casey herself, this is utterly preposterous. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2011, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124/100 "2011-06-23T03:05:28Z")
> [@](#): > > Pretty simple really. > [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#): > > My thoughts exactly… I see what you did there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-casey-anthony-guilty/585124.md?page=6)