# Is Cecil's House of Values open for business?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-cecils-house-of-values-open-for-business/541169
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**Created:** [May 29, 2010, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-cecils-house-of-values-open-for-business/541169 "2010-05-29T12:33:41Z")
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### Author:  [@emmaliminal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emmaliminal)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2010, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-cecils-house-of-values-open-for-business/541169/1 "2010-05-29T12:33:41Z")
[https://securesite.chireader.com/cgi-bin/dopestore/buystuff.bat](https://securesite.chireader.com/cgi-bin/dopestore/buystuff.bat)
won’t load for me, and hasn’t loaded for me for a few days – not in Firefox, Chrome, or IE. Is it just me, or is the site down?
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### Author:  [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2010, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-cecils-house-of-values-open-for-business/541169/2 "2010-05-29T12:41:22Z")
I just tried it. The site is down. Problem is on their end, not with your browser.
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### Author:  [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2010, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-cecils-house-of-values-open-for-business/541169/3 "2010-05-29T14:20:26Z")
Ed has said [they are getting out of the Ceciliana biz](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10982746&postcount=49)because it doesn’t have a good ROI.
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### Author:  [@emmaliminal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emmaliminal)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-cecils-house-of-values-open-for-business/541169/4 "2010-05-29T14:40:46Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Ed has said [they are getting out of the Ceciliana biz](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10982746&postcount=49)because it doesn’t have a good ROI.
Getting out, or just not getting more in?
> [@\[T-shirt Design\] Ed, please answer this question.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t-shirt-design-ed-please-answer-this-question/490722/49):
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> I’m not saying we would never _[offer a Slug-free T-shirt]_. However:
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> 1. We don’t sell a huge amount of merchandise, never have. Currently we gross a few thousand a year, and that’s for everything - books, mugs, shirts. It’d take me a while to figure out the net, but it’s probably under $1,000 per year.
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> 2. What with setup charges, price breaks for bulk quantities, etc., we’d have to invest maybe $500 to make this worthwhile, basically on a hunch that there’s a significant untapped market of T-shirt buyers out there who really hate Slug’s art. Say we sell 50 shirts at a profit of $6 each (we’re due to raise the price). We net $300. The company owes - I’m not telling you anything that isn’t in the public record - $31 million. The honchos want me to make them some money. This investment won’t strike them as shrewd.
I don’t see anywhere in there where Ed suggests they’re abandoning the existing Ceciliana.
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### Author:  [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2010, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-cecils-house-of-values-open-for-business/541169/5 "2010-05-29T15:02:10Z")
> [@emmaliminal](#):
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> Getting out, or just not getting more in?
> I don’t see anywhere in there where Ed suggests they’re abandoning the existing Ceciliana.
The page has been down for weeks, if not longer. Draw your own conclusion.
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### Author:  [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2010, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-cecils-house-of-values-open-for-business/541169/6 "2010-05-30T13:48:18Z")
The server the store was on has crashed and cannot be resuscitated.
Not sure what’s going to happen. Please stay tuned for further developments.
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### Author:  [@emmaliminal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emmaliminal)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-cecils-house-of-values-open-for-business/541169/7 "2010-05-30T16:40:37Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#):
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> The server the store was on has crashed and cannot be resuscitated.
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> Not sure what’s going to happen. Please stay tuned for further developments.
Thank you very much for the update, and good luck.