# Is Charles Dickens literature, or 19th century airport reading? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 12, 2012, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charles-dickens-literature-or-19th-century-airport-reading/624901 "2012-06-12T12:24:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charles-dickens-literature-or-19th-century-airport-reading/624901/1 "2012-06-12T12:24:14Z")
I’ve read Oliver Twist, A Christmas Carol and most of David Copperfield. Dickens has always struck me as entertaining light reading, maybe something you’d pick up at the 19th century equivalent of an airport magazine stand, but nothing of his really sticks with me, makes me ponder what it means later, or compels me to go back and read him again to see what kind of themes or symbolism I might have missed the first time around. I don’t recall ever running across any popular or scholarly debate on what he really meant by such and such, as I have for Melville, Hawthorne and even Mark Twain. So is he just bathroom reading that has survived by happenstance, or what? ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charles-dickens-literature-or-19th-century-airport-reading/624901/2 "2012-06-12T12:35:37Z")
How do you define “literature”? Dickens was _immensely_ popular when he was writing. To some people that alone disqualifies him as a serious author. He was very sentimental and he loved a good twist and a happy ending. Try getting anyone to take you seriously if you did that _today_. But the man could write. He stood the test of time in being readable and popular years after he died. It didn’t hurt getting yourself assigned as a school standard, being dramatised over and ovber on stage (and later the movies), but those things happened because he was popular in the first place. W.C. Fields desperately wanted to play Mr. micawber because he loved the book. I’ve read and re-read \*A Christmas Carol \* because it’s a hellluva good read. I’ve read \*A Tale of Two Cities more than once because it’s a good read. Granted, I’ve slogged through a lot of dickens I’ve hated (the other Christmas books he wrote – he did four more – are awful. I loathed _Hard Times_, but it was assigned reading. And I couldn’t get into _The Pickwick Papers_ at all). So. Dickens was an immensely successful and popular author, but whose writing has qualities that go beyond simple Crowd Pleasing Fan Service. I think that he IS an “airport novelist made good”. Mark Twain is another example of this – he was derided in his own day as a “mere humorist”, but his _Huckleberry Finn_ is now regarded by many as The Great American Novel. Will Stephen King or John Grisham or someone else acghieve such a breakthrough and be revered by future generations? It’s possible, but hard to predict. My own suspicion is that neither of them will, and that Robert Heinlein will be a Surviving Author. (His science may be dated, but so is that of Verne and Wells. And more of Heinlein’s _ouevre_ is still in print than any of his contemporaries – even Asimov and Clarke) ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charles-dickens-literature-or-19th-century-airport-reading/624901/3 "2012-06-12T13:45:16Z")
19th century airport? Literature doesn’t have to be heavy and dark, or full of seriousness, or even pretentious. It can be enjoyable. ---
**Author:** ![newcomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e5b9ba/32.png) [@newcomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcomer)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charles-dickens-literature-or-19th-century-airport-reading/624901/4 "2012-06-12T13:50:18Z")
Never thought of that question (as in, I assumed Dickens is not just a literature, he’s a classic literature). Fully confirmed after reading [Orwell’s essay on Dickens](http://orwell.ru/library/reviews/dickens/english/e_chd). ---
**Author:** ![picker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/picker/32/13969_2.png) [@picker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picker)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charles-dickens-literature-or-19th-century-airport-reading/624901/5 "2012-06-12T13:52:31Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > 19th century airport? Forget it, he’s rolling. ---
**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charles-dickens-literature-or-19th-century-airport-reading/624901/6 "2012-06-12T14:04:49Z")
He is both. At the time he was one (wildly popular) novelist among hundreds or thousands. People read his serial installments the way people watch The Office now (or, did, before Steve left…). Over time, Dickens’ popularity endured because of the high quality of writing, high quality of imagination, and multiple meaningful interpretations of his works. And all of that is why his novels are Literature. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charles-dickens-literature-or-19th-century-airport-reading/624901/7 "2012-06-12T14:06:35Z")
> [@picker](#): > > Forget it, he’s rolling. Was it considered literature after being translated to German? ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charles-dickens-literature-or-19th-century-airport-reading/624901/8 "2012-06-12T14:14:46Z")
When my father went to high school in the 1930s, Dickens was not yet considered to be in the pantheon of great writers, but by the 1950s he was. Similarly, when I was a student in the 70s, Tolkein wasn’t considered a literary heavyweight, but now he is. In both cases, several popular movies contributed to their elevation in critical esteem. William Burroughs and Jim Thompson have enjoyed similar literary rehabilitations (though movies played a much lesser role in theirs). I believe Philip K. Dick and Toni Morrison are kind of in the process now of such. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charles-dickens-literature-or-19th-century-airport-reading/624901/9 "2012-06-12T14:28:08Z")
Dickens’s writing also explored the social conditions of the day (courts, prisons, orphanages), which elevates it to some extent. It often drifted into melodrama, however, to the point where Trollope (who was definitely train-station reading but who wrote about politics more astringently) mocked him as “Mr. Popular Sentiment.” ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charles-dickens-literature-or-19th-century-airport-reading/624901/10 "2012-06-12T14:40:27Z")
His earlier works, of which _Oliver Twist_ is a good example, leaned more toward entertaining light reading. His later works tend to be deeper and more mature, though they’re all recognizably Dickens. The works of his friend Wilkie Collins are probably as good an example as any of 19th century airport reading. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charles-dickens-literature-or-19th-century-airport-reading/624901/11 "2012-06-12T15:07:39Z")
> [@Krokodil](#): > > Similarly, when I was a student in the 70s, Tolkein wasn’t considered a literary heavyweight, but now he is. Tolkein is considered heavyweight literature? Outside of the fantasy genera? Not that you couldn’t create an English class centred on the Simpsons… ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charles-dickens-literature-or-19th-century-airport-reading/624901/12 "2012-06-12T16:57:27Z")
I’ve never liked the notion of “Literature” as a value judgment. Of course Dickens’ work is literature! What else would it be, sculpture? Interpretive dance? Now, you might argue that it’s not very _good_ literature, but if that’s what you mean, then say so. If you ask me, like any prolific author, he had his ups and downs. Sure, a lot of his work was just pablum to bring in a steady paycheck, but _A Tale of Two Cities_ is excellent, and _A Christmas Carol_ is the definitive Christmas story (well, aside from the original one, but you know what I mean). ---
**Author:** ![Skara\_Brae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Skara\_Brae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skara_Brae)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charles-dickens-literature-or-19th-century-airport-reading/624901/13 "2012-06-12T17:11:05Z")
Most of Dicken’s work was serialized, written in monthly or weekly installments in magazines of the time, so in a way, it could be compared to today’s television series, rather than airport reading. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charles-dickens-literature-or-19th-century-airport-reading/624901/14 "2012-06-12T17:46:50Z")
The thread title is a false dichotomy, of course. Great literature doesn’t have to be obscure and a lot of the authors regarded as canonical today were very popular during their careers. I agree that a lot of Dickens’ stuff has that soap opera quality that might make you feel he’s shamelessly manipulating the reader, and oh man, did it work in his day. He could be verbose, too. But I think it underrates Dickens if you describe as a merely functional writer of page-turning"airport literature"-type stuff without greater literary aspirations.