# Is Charlie Sheen's belief in his innate exceptionalism a more honest position than false humility? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 14, 2011, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charlie-sheens-belief-in-his-innate-exceptionalism-a-more-honest-position-than-false-humility/574634 "2011-03-14T07:02:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charlie-sheens-belief-in-his-innate-exceptionalism-a-more-honest-position-than-false-humility/574634/61 "2011-03-16T09:18:13Z")
> [@Hello\_Again](#): > > Second of all, being paid a boatload of money for being on a very popular show is not proof you are amazingly exceptional. > > Getting paid a lot doesn’t mean anything except that you got lucky and picked a winner. > > Charlie Sheen was lucky that when a network went looking for the two cheapest washed-up losers they could find, > > Charlie Sheen is lucky Indeed, he was so lucky to fall into Red Dawn Lucas Ferris Buellers day off Platoon Wall Street Young Guns Eight Men Out Major League Men at Work The Rookie Hot Shots And then… as luck would have it he winds up on TV, as the star of the most popular sitcom. Man was he lucky, to get paid money to be a no talent hack. Seriously, I kicked ass in my high school’s production of Our Town, I’m a way better actor than this joker. I bet if I had a dad who was an actor I’d be famous too, it’s all about who you know. ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charlie-sheens-belief-in-his-innate-exceptionalism-a-more-honest-position-than-false-humility/574634/62 "2011-03-16T11:32:04Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Indeed, he was so lucky to fall into > Red Dawn > Lucas > Ferris Buellers day off > Platoon > Wall Street > Young Guns > Eight Men Out > Major League > Men at Work > The Rookie > Hot Shots > > And then… as luck would have it he winds up on TV, as the star of the most popular sitcom. > > Man was he lucky, to get paid money to be a no talent hack. Seriously, I kicked ass in my high school’s production of Our Town, I’m a way better actor than this joker. I bet if I had a dad who was an actor I’d be famous too, it’s all about who you know. Yes! You’re right!! ALL of those movies were made after 1994!!! Oh wait… none of them were. He WAS hugely fucking lucky to be dredged up from obscurity for 2 and a Half Men. SUPER LUCKY, since he basically hadn’t worked in a decade. He was his own pathetic punchline in “Being John Malkovich.” I NEVER said he was a no-talent hack. I said he was basically just average, and no better than lots of others who are not currently fired from the highest-paying sitcom for being psychotic drug abusers. He is nothing exceptional. He’s just luckier than others who share equal talent. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charlie-sheens-belief-in-his-innate-exceptionalism-a-more-honest-position-than-false-humility/574634/63 "2011-03-16T12:04:32Z")
From 1984 to 1994 he was a lead or significant supporting actor in over a dozen major motion pictures. From 1995 to 2000 he did not do much of anything worthwhile, he worked steadily but in crappy movies. From 2000 to 2002 he does 2 seasons replacing Michael J Fox in Spin City, then languishes pathetically for another 18 months until he “lucks” into the lead in a wildly popular sitcom, where he’s been for the last 8 years. For the last 27 years of his career, he’s had about 7 years, total, where he hasn’t been a major component of a hit motion picture or a hit TV show. Interesting definition of “average” and “lucky”. ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charlie-sheens-belief-in-his-innate-exceptionalism-a-more-honest-position-than-false-humility/574634/64 "2011-03-16T13:12:37Z")
If it was Jennifer Aniston screaming “Y’all are bitches I’m QUEEN OF THE WORLD” you would be laughing your ass off, and with good reason. She’s a fine, fairly sucessful actress, who was once one of the highest paid actors working, on the most popular sitcom going. That doesn’t mean she is “extraordinary.” Really, she’s nothing special – maybe slightly better than average. ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charlie-sheens-belief-in-his-innate-exceptionalism-a-more-honest-position-than-false-humility/574634/65 "2011-03-16T14:36:35Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Man was he lucky, to get paid money to be a no talent hack. Seriously, I kicked ass in my high school’s production of Our Town, I’m a way better actor than this joker. I bet if I had a dad who was an actor I’d be famous too, it’s all about who you know. No he wasn’t lucky to get paid money to be a no talent hack, he was lucky to be born into the right family and have the right friends and connections. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2011, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charlie-sheens-belief-in-his-innate-exceptionalism-a-more-honest-position-than-false-humility/574634/66 "2011-03-16T15:33:42Z")
Speaking of those who seem to have unusually high tolerances for substance abuse, some genticists decided to sequence Ozzy Osbourne’s DNA to see if they could figure out why he was still alive. They found out that he is literally a [genetic mutant](http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/genetic-mutations-ozzy-osbourne-party-hard/story?id=12032552). I believe they are currently doing a similar study on Keef. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-charlie-sheens-belief-in-his-innate-exceptionalism-a-more-honest-position-than-false-humility/574634.md?page=3)