# Is civil war in Egypt averted? 90% yes for new Constitution. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 17, 2014, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071 "2014-01-17T16:30:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/441 "2014-02-02T09:40:23Z")
> [@NotfooledbyW](#): > > Read more: [http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id=19613444&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fmobile%2Fs%3Frewrite%3D72%26.tsrc%3Dapple%26first%3D1%26p%3Dobama%2Bfavors%2Bcontinued%2Baid%2Bto%2BEgypt%2Bafter%2Bmilitary%2Bcoup%26pintl%3Den%26pcarrier%3DAT%2526T%26pmcc%3D310%26pmnc%3D410%26fr%3Donesearch](http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id=19613444&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fmobile%2Fs%3Frewrite%3D72%26.tsrc%3Dapple%26first%3D1%26p%3Dobama%2Bfavors%2Bcontinued%2Baid%2Bto%2BEgypt%2Bafter%2Bmilitary%2Bcoup%26pintl%3Den%26pcarrier%3DAT%2526T%26pmcc%3D310%26pmnc%3D410%26fr%3Donesearch) > > McCain and Obama are mostly at odds in every foreign policy matter: > > Read more: [Yahoo Search - Web Search](http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AwrBTzncQepSz3MAm45x.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTEzbWszc3VmBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMgRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA01PVVM5Ml8x?qid=20130708123341AAd97VA) > The Republicans have been having trouble deciding on a consistent policy dealing with the historic events in Egypt. That is because they are driven by a blame-Obama-first philosophy and it is not easy figuring out what blame helps them the most. It’s not about aid. Egypt doesn’t care about US aid. Mc Cain etc were all sent to get Morsi and Al Shater etc released from prison. Al Shater threatened about the black box so I expect the US after knowing that the MB have had complete access to the files of the country are nervous about what will be revealed. ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/442 "2014-02-02T09:42:42Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Yahoo answers cannot be used a cite. It’s just some anonymous person posting on the internet. > McCain wanted to suspend, not “end”, aid to Egypt not because he doesn’t “want the US to be seen as opposing Democracy by continuing aid”, but because he thinks that is the law, as do I. He’s on record as saying he doesn’t want to suspend aid, but feels we must in order to be compliant with the law. > > And supporting Morsi isn’t blanket support of “the Muslim Brotherhood”. It’s support of the democratically elected president of Egypt. The tricky past is that the aid is part of Camp David Treaty. US stops the aid then the Egyptians can cancel treaty since US broke terms of the treaty by stopping the aid. US will not stop the aid. Their hands are tied. ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/443 "2014-02-02T09:48:56Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > **Shodan** , you realize that stopping military aid to Egypt would screw Israel over big time, right? correct! That is why Egyptians don’t care or even mention the US aid. Stop it if you like. We don’t care. You will also notice that Bandar quickly left DC and relations between Saudi and US are at all time low. Saudi now massively supports Egypt. Russia and China India etc can easily fill any US gap. It’s almost as if the USA is dropping Israel. They realise that they can’t have Israel and the rest of the world as friends. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/444 "2014-02-02T09:51:48Z")
Come now - neither of us wants war between Egypt and Israel. Right? ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/445 "2014-02-02T09:53:36Z")
> [@NotfooledbyW](#): > > Morsi resigned too. Had he been able to consolidate power through the US friendly military he would not have needed to resign. What I believe Marmite Lover has been saying that Morsi was trying to consolidate his power through links to a terrorist organization and that made his government illegitimate and if it were duly elected it was elected based on fraud. The people rose against him and he had no way to cling to power and specifically was not legitimate because western democracies’ leaders said he was. > > Enough Egyptians voted with their feet to oust the SOB Islamist terrorist sympathizer and there was no need to label it a coup of a duly elected government because Morsi was not duly governing as he should have under the conditions that surrounded him. Maybe you can tell Morsi he resigned because he is screaming he is the president of Egypt till this day 😃 In fact Morsi is not the problem. Morsi never ruled as president. He is known in Egypt as the spare tyre anyway. During Morsi’s rule it was not Morsi running the country. It was the murshid. That was why it is impossible to negotiate with the MB. ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/446 "2014-02-02T09:54:55Z")
> [@NotfooledbyW](#): > > He resigned because he did not fight to the death as he said he would. He did not fight because he obviously had nothing and nobody to fight on his side. That’s what I said. “Had he been able to consolidate power through the US friendly military he would not have needed to resign.” No he did not write a letter of resignation and peacefully walk away. Not that king of resignation, but he did not fight. If you prefer surrendered to the military that’s ok too. > > He surrendered without a fight because he had no real power when his Islamist agenda went too far. are you talking about Morsi here 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/447 "2014-02-02T10:08:10Z")
> [@NotfooledbyW](#): > > I am not saying it was not a military coup. What are you responding to? > > I used the term resigned in response to a post that Mubarak resigned. When > Mubarsk resigned he asked the Military to take over buy who or what else could he turn power over to. Mubarak did have power because the military gave it to him. So when Morsi resigned - surrendered - was deposed - driven out of office - he was not turning over power to the very same military becsuse he never really had it to turn over. > > There are things such as forced resignations and I believe Mubarik’s and Morsi’s resignations were both Forced. > > If you must call one a military coup and the other a resignation / I think Mubarak’s was more a coup than Morsi’s because there was an actual transfer of real power when Mubarak quit. My point is that when Morsi quit the military already had the power they had when Mubarak handed power to them > > I’m talking about real power. Morsi never had it. He never had real power because he screwed up the chance that was given him. Okay I need to explain something here Coup is just a word. Tamarod ousted Morsi. They asked the army to arrest him. They did. The army could never have ousted a president the people loved so call it whatever you like. We call it the will of the people. Same as Mubarak, will of the people. IF Mubarak has not been ousted on 25th January 2011 it would have happened the day they revealed the results of the next election and Gamal was made president. The army did not run Egypt if you think they did. Mubarak and the felool did. Mubarak controlled everything. That’s why he never even appointed a vice president. His men had to be loyal to him not anyone else not army. Mubarak knew the army hated Gamal because they could see the catastrophe ahead. The army’s job is to keep the country stable which it is doing as best it can against all the odds. The US aid you all speak of. You know where most goes? It goes to building factories to make household goods etc to provide jobs by the army for citizens. It goes to build petrol stations for fuel and a million other projects that give Egyptian jobs. While the army looked after the people, and built bakeries to feed them and give them cheap bread for the poor. Mubarak and his sons built leisure resorts and shopping malls for the rich. Huge real estate ventures that lie empty. Millions of real estate all lying empty. While the poor live in slums. This is one of the reasons the people love their army. ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/448 "2014-02-02T10:12:58Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > It’s not so much an insult as an observation. > OK. You now agree that there was a coup in Egypt. US law says that no aid should go to a government after a coup. Obama wants to violate US law and send aid to Egypt. > > Do you think that Obama should violate his oath to faithfully execute the laws of the United States? > Apparently his name is hard to spell. > > Regards, > Shodan The USA will have to violate something US Law or the Camp David Treaty Which one is the question ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/449 "2014-02-02T10:20:24Z")
> [@NotfooledbyW](#): > > When Mubarak handed the government over to the military was it a forced resignation or was it unforced by any outside pressure? In other words did he just decide to do it for personal reasons? Mubarak had no clue the last 5 years what was going on. Mubarak was the president. Gamal and Ahmed Ezz etc were running the country. Egyptians knew that and they were never going to accept Gamal as next president. Not ever! If it didn’t happen 25th then it would be on election result day. [http://nimg.sulekha.com/others/original700/hillary-clinton-gamal-mubarak-2009-6-4-9-50-0.jpg](http://nimg.sulekha.com/others/original700/hillary-clinton-gamal-mubarak-2009-6-4-9-50-0.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/450 "2014-02-02T10:23:31Z")
[QUOE]In a bombshell, retired General Hugh Shelton, the former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said his country has concocted a conspiracy to destabilize Egypt. He said President Obama administration is working to destabilize regimes in both Egypt and Bahrain. **Shelton said General Abdel Fattah El Sisi, the Minister of Defense discovered the US conspiracy and aborted it before Egypt turns into another Syria and put an end to the so called new Middle East project.** The former US official said the June 30 Revolution has stymied the conspiracy and kept Egypt and its army from destruction. The US World Tribune reported that the United States planned to destabilize regime in at least two Arab countries during the past two years. The paper quoted Shelton, who served in both the administrations of former US Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush as saying that Egypt has managed to abort the Obama campaign for destabilizing Egypt in the year 2013 adding General Abdel Fattah El Sisi, the First Deputy Premier and Minister of Defense and Military Production who was the former chief of the Miliary intelligence has managed to uncover the US plot to support the Moslem Brotherhood who came to power midst unprecedented disorders, a thing which led to the ouster of president Mohamed Morsy on June 3. He said if Morsy was not ousted through the assistance of the army, Egypt would have turned into another Syria and the Egyptian army would have been destroyed in full, indicating that the June 30 Revolution stymied this plot and kept Egypt and its army from destruction. Shelton, who did not uncover the source of the information he gave, said Arab allies kept away from Washington and set up an alliance between Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates against Moslem Brotherhood. He expressed the belief that Egypt is about to become calm. Meantime, Shelton said the US intelligence services spearheaded a campaign against Bahrain, which was exhausted by Shiite revolutions adding the United States believed that Bahrain would be easy to swallow, thus setting up a springboard towards destroying the Gulf Cooperation Council regime and allow giant oil companies to control the oil in the gulf. Shelton said the Bahraini Monarch Hamad Bin Isa managed in 29011 to abort the plot adding the Bahraini monarch agreed on the GCC decision which was sponsored by Saudi Arabia to dispatch thousands of soldiers to Bahrain to help stamp out the Iran supported Shiite rebellion. Shelton, who met the Bahraini Monarch during his assignment in the fifth U.S Fleet in Manama, said the conspiracy has damaged the US administration policy with Bahrain and Saudi Arabia adding this has eroded the confidence given by Riyadh to Washington after discovering US support for Shiites in Bahrain. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/451 "2014-02-02T10:28:13Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > What you’re doing IS handwaving the law away. You’re changing the conditions. You’re saying “It doesn’t count because it’s not an established democracy”, and "It doesn’t count because “It doesn’t count because Morsi didn’t have control over the military” and “It doesn’t count because Morsi had ties to terrorism” and “It doesn’t count because Morsi wanted to set up a theocracy.” > > But that’s not what the law says. I agree with you. Mohammed Morsi is an evil son of a bitch who wants to set up a theocratic state that oppresses religious minorities and bring Islamic terror to the region. \*\* He also was the democratically elected ruler elected by the Egyptian people.\*\* And they turned against him, and the military overthrow was pretty popular. > > But, the law says what the law says. The law says we don’t get to support military governments that do that. Even if it turns out that the guy who was elected is an evil theocratic terrorist son of a bitch, the law says that if the military overthrows him, the government loses aid until it has free elections. Even if we like the military government and hate the democratic government. It’s a remarkably stupid law. Its an insanely stupid law that’s detrimental to US foreign policy. But that’s the law, even though it’s a bad one. why do people keep saying this? few Egyptians believed for one second it was a fair election it was the same as happened under Mubarak the election was rigged even Carter said he would never monitor another the rigging was so blatant so! why is this constantly being repeated that he was democratically elected? The election and voting process was witnessed by US the Egyptians!!! We saw the violations! it was exactly like what happened under Mubarak. ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/452 "2014-02-02T10:34:20Z")
US supported Syrian jihadists female corps with their AQ headbands [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfdgpVECMAAIkyI.jpg:large) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfdgpVECMAAIkyI.jpg:large) ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/453 "2014-02-02T11:36:43Z")
> [@Marmite\_Lover](#): > > US supported Syrian jihadists female corps with their AQ headbands > > [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfdgpVECMAAIkyI.jpg:large](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfdgpVECMAAIkyI.jpg:large) What do those headbands say? ---
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/454 "2014-02-02T12:56:46Z")
> [@Marmite\_Lover](#): > > are you talking about Morsi here 😕 Yes. And could you explain further or again what the Murshid is? ---
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/455 "2014-02-02T13:16:09Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Good for Obama. It looks like he was at least attempting to follow the law afterall. > > And it looks like Obama was in agreement with McCain et al. I’m sure **NFBW** will now tell us that Obama was absolutely right in doing what he had early said Obama shouldn’t do. Once again you need to cite where I advocated that Obama violate any law. You have a pitiful record on backing up what you think I have said. Lets see it. As for McCain - he supported Rand Paul’s quest for a while to divert Egyptian aid to the US transportation budget. I posted this earlier: !!" “Funding directed to Egypt would be redirected” to another portion of the transportation bill that addresses bridge projects inside the United States, according to Paul’s office. Read more: [http://www.defensenews](http://www.defensenews)"!! ---
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/456 "2014-02-02T13:31:48Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > And you wonder why people don’t follow your arguments: The election is valid. Then it is not because of Morsi’s lies. Then I never said the election was invalid because of Morsi’s lies. > > “Those lies negated the validity of the first election.” [These were Morsi’s lies, correct?] > “I have not said the election was invalid because Morsi lied to get votes” > “There is no difference in both cites. In both cases the election itself was valid.”–(Except, apparently, when lies negate the validity of the election.) > > Is this some bizarre parsing of your point that we should take “negated the validity” as _not_ meaning “invalid”? > > Or, the election is a specific event that occurred on a specific day when people voted (definition 1 below), and not the political choice of the voting into office of Morsi (definition 2 below)? > > **election** (plural elections) > > 1. A process of choosing a leader, members of parliament, councillors or other representatives by popular vote. > > 2. The choice of a leader or representative by popular vote. > > Let’s see who agrees with you. You have not explained where I have argued that the election itself was not valid. Had Morsi not acted upon his lies and promises and aligned himself with the miderates and revolutionaries then he may have been able to serve out his first term. Had he done that his lies would not have invalidated the election. So lets get that straight and I am interested in Marmite Lover’s new lead that Morsi was not running the country anyway the whole time. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/457 "2014-02-02T13:45:12Z")
> [@NotfooledbyW](#): > > No it’s not a failure. I speak normal English. You are silly. > > Anyway I told you what Morsi’s failure was. It was trying to put Islamists in control of the military. So his failure was to try to gain control of the military for the very wrong reasons. And according to you he was not ever going to get it. So if you are correct then Morsi failed to understand his own constitution. > > You certainly blew this one. Let’s keep the disparagement out of it. Even the word “silly” could be construed as a personal insult when phrased thus way. No warning. ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/458 "2014-02-02T14:25:37Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > What do those headbands say? It’s not what they say it is who is currently wearing them as part of a jihad that matters ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/459 "2014-02-02T14:29:04Z")
> [@NotfooledbyW](#): > > Yes. > > And could you explain further or again what the Murshid is? This was Murshid till recently but he is in Tora now with rest of MB leaders. [![](http://www.ccun.org/images/2013/August/20%20p%20b/Mulslim%20Brotherhood%20leader,%20Muhamed%20Badie%27,%20arrested%20in%20a%20Cairo%20apartment,%20in%20Adawiya%20Square,%20August%2019,%202013%20reut.jpg) ](http://www.ccun.org/images/2013/August/20%20p%20b/Mulslim%20Brotherhood%20leader,%20Muhamed%20Badie%27,%20arrested%20in%20a%20Cairo%20apartment,%20in%20Adawiya%20Square,%20August%2019,%202013%20reut.jpg) Murshid is the Supreme Leader, a bit like Ayatollah who must be obeyed by the ‘brothers’ ---
**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/460 "2014-02-02T14:36:34Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Oh, I see. How can I have been so wrong? WHen you said you’d go with what an Egyptian said, it should have been obvious to all of us that you meant you don’t go with what an Egyptian said. > > Crystal clear, as always. As I said the fact of what I said is irrefutable. The fact that what you are claiming I said is not supportable by anything. I re-posted my July response to you along with your comment on last summer’s thread. Can you tell me that you were **arguing** on that post that there was a coup D’état against Morsi at that time? You see context does matter and you need to try and use it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071.md?page=22) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071.md?page=24)