# Is civil war in Egypt averted? 90% yes for new Constitution.

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**Created:** [January 17, 2014, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071 "2014-01-17T16:30:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/1041 "2014-05-19T09:25:15Z")

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No surprise there. Things worked smoothly (if coldly) between Israel and Egypt under Mubarak, and there’s no reason they should be any different under Mubarak 2.0.

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**Author:** ![NotfooledbyW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f475e1/32.png) [@NotfooledbyW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotfooledbyW)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/1042 "2014-05-19T10:47:50Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> No surprise there. Things worked smoothly (if coldly) between Israel and Egypt under Mubarak, and there’s no reason they should be any different under Mubarak 2.0.

But don’t you see that the Muslim Brotherhood was oppressed under Mubarak. Then they were given an opportunity to show what they would do if given power to govern under Morsi and they were strongly rejected by millions who did not want their form of religious oppression.

So now their entire organization is being destroyed and eliminated and they are receiving little support and sympathy from the mass of public opinion.

This should be acknowledged by outsiders as a national mood toward a more secularized limited religious governing style being desirable by the majority and mostly Egyptian young people. Stability and secularism should be seen as two necessary combined ingredients in a recipe for better democracy in Egypt to come to fruition.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/1043 "2014-08-12T18:47:48Z")

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“Egyptian security forces intentionally killed at least 817 protesters during last August’s Rabaa massacre, in a premeditated attack equal to or worse than China’s Tiananmen Square killings in 1989, Human Rights Watch (HRW) has argued in a report.”

> **[Egypt massacre was premeditated, says Human Rights Watch](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/12/egypt-massacre-rabaa-intentional-human-rights-watch)**
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> Rabaa killing of 817 people was a planned Tiananmen-Square-style attack on largely unarmed protesters, report argues

Here is the full report:  
[http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/egypt0814\_ForUpload\_0\_0.pdf](http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/egypt0814_ForUpload_0_0.pdf)

I hadn’t realized it was this bad.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-civil-war-in-egypt-averted-90-yes-for-new-constitution/679071/1044 "2014-08-12T19:32:30Z")

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Of course you didn’t know. It wasn’t Israel.

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