Thanks, that’s really useful advice.
And for something more recent (he was 67 when they debuted this song on SNL).
I remember the intro to Misfits of Science, but not the episodes themselves.
Well - I don’t know of folk who say they dislike his voice today, but I guarantee that the folk who said it when Born to Run and Darkness came out weren’t influenced by Born to Run!
One of my favorite too… I’ve fallen deeply out of love with “Incident on 57th St” (except for the transition into Rosalita) but every other track is a little bit of magic.
No.
It’s not the gravelly-ness I dislike. I’m a fan of Waits, and of various Goth singers with deep or rumbly voices.
It’s the sounding constipated part. It’s hard to describe, but Springsteen and Dylan have it, and Waits doesn’t.
She was also Alex’s girlfriend on Family Ties. It was the later years, but still a popular show.
Born in the USA was the first vinyl I ever bought, and I bought it soon after it came out. My mom told her friend, and her friend made the same observation that Springsteen’s voice is horrible.
Friend would have been approximately 50 years old at the time, and was active in church choir and her son, then in high school, is a trained opera singer (tenor).
I would consider Bruce Springsteen more famous outside of the US. More people are more likely to listen to US music than to bother watching a US television show. I think some of his songs are also popular for karaoke.
At least I know what I’ll be listening to later today - haven’t listened to any Bruce Springsteen for a while.
Obvious brainfart.
I don’t know if you’re saying that the popularity ranking for Bruce Springsteen is higher in other countries than in the U.S. or if you’re saying that, outside of the U.S., Courtney Cox is more famous than Bruce Springsteen. I don’t know whether either one of those claims is true. YouGov exists for nine countries outside the U.S. doing, I think, the same sort of ranking that it does in the U.S. Perhaps it’s possible to check about this using their rankings for those countries.
I also don’t know if it’s true that people outside of the U.S. do more listening to American music than watching American television shows.
I was going to mention that. She had also appeared on one episode of Seinfeld as Jerry’s girlfriend-of-the-week.
Of the six Friends cast members, Cox was the one who was somewhat well-known at the time it premiered. She already had a fairly solid sitcom track record behind her, while the others were largely unknowns (with the possible exception of Lisa Kudrow, who had a recurring role on Mad About You).
But i don’t remember her acting skills ever being extolled. She was called cute, fetching, attractive, well cast, but did anyone ever accuse her of acting? She was basically eye candy, in the Springsteen video, in Friends, in Scream but not especially talented in any role.
She’s received five People’s Choice Award nominations (and won one), two Saturn Award nominations, and a bunch of other nominations. She may not be a Meryl Streep, she may not have even been the best actor on Friends, but I think your statement is ill-founded.
I remember her as being less popular than Jennifer Anniston. I didn’t watch Friends but I knew Anniston better than Cox, in fact I think I only know the name Courteney Cox from more recent coverage. I would have been able to identify her as an actress on that sitcom, but I don’t think I would have known her name.
At that age (teens), I couldn’t have told you who Springsteen was, either.
I would say Anniston, Kudrow and
Schwimmer were the standouts. Though I stopped watching the series long before it ended.
To nitpick myself, her first name is spelled Courteney, not Courtney. There’s a Courtney Cox that’s listed in the IMDb, but that’s a different person. She’s a guitarist who’s appeared in three videos of her band.
I’ve been saying that repeatedly this whole thread, it’s a lost cause brother.
It’s not our fault that she spells it wrong.
I’ve only ever lived in non-US countries (Britain, China and Sweden, from longest to shortest duration), and everywhere I’ve been Friends was a massive phenomenon. Of course, it’s receding in interest now, but the Friends Reunion still broke viewing records in multiple countries around the world.
Meanwhile Bruce Springsteen…honestly, before this thread, I would have recognized the name, but if you had asked me to name one of his songs I would have very hesitantly said Born in the USA with a rising inflection, and stopped there. And I’m an old-ish (44) Westerner.
It’s not even close IMHO.
And again, none of this is to disparage BS’ music…it’s not really to my taste but I’m making no statement about who deserves fame more or whatever.
I’m curious about this. I lived in Hungary from '98 - '03, and Friends was something unknown in the culture. But, as I mentioned above, Bruce Springsteen was. Same with my experiences in Poland. But that was twenty years ago. Things may have changed a lot, and the world is a big place. (The American sitcoms I remember being on TV when I was there were “Married With Children” and, for whatever reason “Sledgehammer.”)