# Is Czarcasm allowed to "senior moderate"? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [March 16, 2013, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063 "2013-03-16T00:38:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/41 "2013-04-08T18:12:53Z")
Interesting. Does that mean you don’t have a quota or that you do have a quota but the quota isn’t actually approved? If feel so moved, you can answer this “A or B?” query with a simple “Yes.” You know, just to keep us on our toes. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/42 "2013-04-08T18:26:33Z")
There are no quotas. The concept is very, very silly if you think about it. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/43 "2013-04-08T20:33:14Z")
Are there any dimes? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/44 "2013-04-08T20:44:55Z")
> [@dantheman](#): > > Are there any dimes? Noncents. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/45 "2013-04-08T20:50:17Z")
Actually, there are secret quotas for each Mod, specifically for the number of bans they implement. It’s just that _ **Marley** _ doesn’t have to worry about those–he [met his quota for the rest of his career in one fell swoop.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=623616&)😛 ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/46 "2013-04-09T01:11:16Z")
> [@picker](#): > > Wouldn’t **Czarcasm** et. al. be considered _ **Moderators Emeritus** _ instead of Junior Mods? He could be known as **Czarcasm, M.E.**. Like Quincy, M.E. In fact, in many ways when I read his words I frequently hear Jack Klugman in his The Odd Couple days. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/47 "2013-04-09T03:01:09Z")
> [@chrisk](#): > > Huh. When I first saw the thread title, the first thing that passed through my mind was a ‘one moderator to mod them all’ sort of thing; a special position of Senior Moderator who just went through the decisions of the other mods, overturning and reversing them as he saw fit. 😉 There used to be, but some little guy threw him into a volcano. ---
**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/48 "2013-04-09T09:05:16Z")
Volcano? I thought it was the quarry he was thrown into. ---
**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/49 "2013-04-09T13:53:41Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > Actually, there are secret quotas for each Mod, specifically for the number of bans they implement. You don’t get the impression from the hyperfinnicky nature of so many of the warnings that there must also be a warning quota? > [@MEBuckner](#): > > It’s just that _ **Marley** _ doesn’t have to worry about those–he [met his quota for the rest of his career in one fell swoop.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=623616&)😛 A specter still haunts **Marley** : the specter of the SDMB Moderators’ Bannings and Infractions Quota. That is because reversed decisions do not count toward quota fulfillment. ---
**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/50 "2013-04-09T14:00:41Z")
> [@njtt](#): > > There used to be, but some little guy threw him into a volcano. “Some little guy”? How about a mob. And I am not talking about a mob consisting of regular members. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/51 "2013-04-09T15:20:44Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > Actually, there are secret quotas for each Mod, specifically for the number of bans they implement. > [@colonial](#): > > You don’t get the impression from the hyperfinnicky nature of so many of the warnings that there must also be a warning quota? **MEBucker** was a moderator here for years. And again, no. But the nice thing is that if you don’t believe us about something like this, we don’t have to care about your opinion. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/52 "2013-04-09T16:41:16Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > **MEBucker** was a moderator here for years. Ah, so…an _ex_SDMB Mod confirms the existnce of a quota requirement? Three guesses why he was fired, anyone? > [@Marley23](#): > > And again, no. But the nice thing is that if you don’t believe us about something like this, we don’t have to care about your opinion. 😉 Yeah, right: 5-10 embattled denials in at least two different threads just in the last 30 days or so means you don’t care? I’ve been thinking about posting a poll to see how many here are now aware of the quota reality, but I was afraid someone might “care” enough to close it. Nice to know I have the green light. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/53 "2013-04-09T16:45:31Z")
> [@colonial](#): > > Ah, so…an _ex_SDMB Mod confirms the existnce of a quota requirement? Three guesses why he was fired, anyone? > > Yeah, right: 5-10 embattled denials in at least two different threads just in the last 30 days or so means you don’t care? > > I’ve been thinking about posting a poll to see how many here are now aware of the quota reality, but I was afraid someone might “care” enough to close it. Nice to know I have the green light. _MEGA_-woosh here. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/54 "2013-04-09T17:00:43Z")
> [@Leo\_Bloom](#): > > I’ve always suspected that mods have a note or warning daily quota that is approved by their higher-ups. Think about that for a moment. The better we do our jobs (e.g., calming down a thread before it goes off the rails), the fewer notes or warnings we need to issue. Giving us a quota would be counter-productive. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/55 "2013-04-09T17:02:49Z")
> [@colonial](#): > > Ah, so…an _ex_SDMB Mod confirms the existnce of a quota requirement? Three guesses why he was fired, anyone? This is why we can’t have nice things. First off, **MEBuckner** was joking and it should have been obvious to anyone. I was hoping the lightbulb would go on when I told you he used to be a moderator, but I guess that’s not going to happen. And **MEBuckner** was not fired. He retired in 2009 after years and years on the job. > [@](#): > > Yeah, right: 5-10 embattled denials in at least two different threads just in the last 30 days or so means you don’t care? This is kind of what I was afraid of: I wanted to make it as clear as it could be that this is a fiction and keep it from taking root, but with certain kinds of people, telling the truth doesn’t work and clear, unambiguous denials of falsehoods don’t work either. That’s how conspiracy theorists think, for example. Please attempt to think clearly about this: why would we have a quota system in the first place? What would be the point? It would create extra work for everyone and pretty much ensure bad warnings, which would help no one and would create extra headaches for us (first we’d have to give more warning to meet our quota, then we’d have to defend them when people complain). Then why would we lie about that system if it existed? We could moderate that way if we wanted to. We don’t because it’d be stupid. Then there’s the question of why you’d choose to hang out on a board that works that way. If none of that works, consider this the point when I cease to care about your opinion on the subject, **colonial**. It’s better to communicate with people who keep an open mind and take care to think rationally. > [@colonial](#): > > I’ve been thinking about posting a poll to see how many here are now aware of the quota reality, but I was afraid someone might “care” enough to close it. Nice to know I have the green light. You misunderstood that, too. I’m tempted to call this trolling, and if you start a thread there’s a very good chance I will call that trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/56 "2013-04-09T17:04:33Z")
The purpose for ticket quotas in the off-line world is to increase profits for the police department. What would be the purpose of a “ticket quota” on a message board? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/57 "2013-04-09T17:14:34Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > The purpose for ticket quotas in the off-line world is to increase profits for the police department. > What would be the purpose of a “ticket quota” on a message board? Creating more work for unpaid volunteers, of course. That makes everybody happy. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/58 "2013-04-09T17:31:10Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Creating more work for unpaid volunteers, of course. That makes everybody happy. And tickets to the Moderator’s Ball! ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/59 "2013-04-09T17:33:11Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > And tickets to the Moderator’s Ball! The moderators don’t have… hey, wait a minute- ::shakes fist:: Ducccaaaaa!!! ---
**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063/60 "2013-04-09T17:38:15Z")
(reply #53): > [@Czarcasm](#): > > _MEGA_-woosh here. For the umpteenth time “whoosh” is terminology peculiar to SDMB, and no one has ever told me what it means. I think the idea is that the user thinks something has gone over my head, or that someone has scored a debate point against me. However, the user has always been wrong, and is wrong above if such is the meaning. (reply #56): > [@Czarcasm](#): > > The purpose for ticket quotas in the off-line world is to increase profits for the police department. > > What would be the purpose of a “ticket quota” on a message board? Ya got me. The only possibilities I can think of would necessarily involve pittable commentary, which might get me into more trouble than I deserve. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-czarcasm-allowed-to-senior-moderate/653063.md?page=4)