Is Disney Dying?

Last elections are showing that people are getting weary of the ones trying to sanitize books, movies and also education.

Back in my day “woke” was called “morals”.

Yeah, “woke” is really easily defined: “acting like a decent human being.”

That’s why anti-woke is so damn scary.

Yeah, or gay characters.

I’m not sure this is really the problem that people are making it out to be. The live action Beauty and the Beast grossed $1.2 billion worldwide, Aladdin just over a billion, Lion King $1.6 billion, and Little Mermaid grossed $570 million. To the extent that people on the left are turned off, it doesn’t seem to be having a big impact on these numbers.

Pluto getting downgraded must have been a hard one to take.

This reminds me of a joke that was made in two television shows back in the 1970s. One character is a gay man and a second man isn’t very smart. The stupid one said something like “You know, back in the old days, there were no homosexuals.” The gay one said, “No, there were gay people even back in the time of the ancient Greeks. Alexander the Great was gay. Plato was gay.” The stupid one says, “Mickey Mouse’s dog was gay?”

I believe all except one (in dry dock) is back up and sailing. And they have added a new ship, with another new one launching next year.

And they still seem to be filling up the ships, since their prices are still miles higher than other cruise lines on the same itineraries. It looks like in 2022 they still lost money ($325M) but predicted to return to profitability this year.

Mork : "Oh, don’t ever go to Pluto, it’s a Mickey Mouse planet!

(Said years before the downgrade).

Sounds like this depends on a deal between Disney, Comcast, and NBCUniversal regarding a 33% share in Hulu.

Thanks. One DIL and her family are extreme Disney fans. They love the cruises.

Of the two streaming services (Disney+ and Hulu), I think Disney+ has the stronger brand name so if only one is to survive, my guess is that Hulu will be folded into it.

Anti-woke == Asleep.

In any case “wokeness” is not real left versus right, it is more the fundamentally religious against everyone else. For gay/trans rights at least. Throw in the racists for other anti-wokeness stuff.

Yes, that’s how they do it overseas (where Star is folded into Disney+). Once the deal with Comcast closes (and it shouldn’t take long, Comcast has already taken all their stuff off of it), it’ll happen.

Silly wabbit, “woke” is applied to anything y’all-qaeda dislikes.

Soap

The other show was Brothers, but I couldn’t find a video of the scene where the joke was done.

Yeah, but people’s awareness of the classic tales wasn’t as firm and amped up by Internet hatred as it is now.

The 1989 “Little Mermaid” is radically different from the fairy tale, but no one cared. Few knew the details of the fairy tale, and the movie was aimed at children, who don’t care.

The remake enraged people, and for, well, reasons, Disney is trying to sell live action remakes to adults as much as children, and adults can get wacky about this stuff.

Disney will find a way to make lots of money for many years to come; they’ve just kind of run out the clock on the strategy of making big budget films that rely on nostalgia and a desire for more content in existing franchises.

No one cared? When the Little Mermaid was released in 1989, my cousin (she) and her sister were teens and where already aware of old versions of the Little Mermaid… from the Reader’s Digest animated special from 1975 (in the old country it was a perennial holiday special). It was closer to the original tale in that the Little Mermaid loses the prince and gets the consolation price of going to heaven after dying by turning into sea foam. They did see that when they were little kids.

When I invited them to see the 1989 movie my cousin lifted a fist to me and said ominously: “If in this one she (the mermaid) dies I’ll kill you!”

Well, they and many other kids were aware of a lot of the classics, and what Disney did in this case was deal with a very big injustice, the prince later had a selected bride that he by “chance” met before, after his ship sank thanks to what the witch did, it pointed at the witch as being responsible for the injustice that took place later, as my nieces said, there was a better ending for the tale in 1989.

And I survived. :slight_smile:

Since this has been bumped, Disney bombs once again:

As for this:

Yes, but not enough to be discouraged,

The film has grossed over $569 million worldwide against a total production budget of $297 million, becoming the ninth-highest-grossing film of 2023 and the seventh-highest-grossing remake by Disney.

The ones that were enraged are the ones having a beef that people of color can be protagonists in “their” movies.