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bobruisk joined the board 07-26-2016, the day after this thread was started. His first post in this thread was that same day. They probably search Google for keywords, maybe Trump, Putin, and Patsy. This thread currently comes up third in Google for those terms.
Banned name!
Put me down in the column that he’s an unwitting patsy. Trump only cares about enriching himself while he is in office and afterwards. Putin can certainly contribute to that, nobody knows Putin’s net worth but it’s estimated at around $200 billion. Trump is bush league compared to that. Trump think’s hes going to get the better of Putin and get “great deals” out of him, while Putin will play him for the amateur he is.
On a tangent, does anyone else suspect that the whole reason that Trump is running for President is that he thinks there is a real chance he’ll get convicted under the Trump U scam or one of the other law suits against him and he’s counting on being able to pardon himself as President?
Yeah I’m sure it feeds his ego as well, but he said he was going to run so many times before, what convinced him to actually do it this time?
Here’s a frightening, albeit unlikely, thought.
Trump kept winning primaries, against all common sense.
We know that Russia has some very skilled hackers.
A good part of our country votes on computers…
Nah, that’s too crazy.
I would feel a lot better if that were the reason Trump won.
But let’s examine it; of the states Trump won, which were computer based?
I was thinking of approachiang the question exactly that way, but I think that you’d have to look at lower than the state level. I know that in my state, Pennsylvania, there’s a mix because voting technology is decided at the local level. I think it’s determined by the county but it may be even lower than that. I have no idea how to go about gathering the needed data at such low levels.
And that leads us to a fundamental problem with the idea of hacking a national election, as opposed to local seats.
Someone would have to hack hundreds of different technologies at thousands of separate precincts, without getting caught even once. I suppose that’s conceivable for a large modern state but, as I said, it’s unlikely.
I think it fair to conclude that Trump is not so much Putin’s deliberate patsy as he is a useful idiot. Which could not be more applicable to the origins of the expression.
I hope someone with a prominent twitter account hashtags this in context with Trump. Would love to see it go viral.
Lenin agreed with Lincoln regarding the unreliability of the internet.
Donald Trump … well honestly, I don’t know how to describe this. He either doesn’t know or he’s just being dishonest about Putin in the Ukraine. From a Sunday Morning Talk show interview with George Stephanopolis, as reported on CNN
Trump went on to repeat the Russian line that Ukrainians would really rather be Russian anyway, and beside’s, Obama’s NATO alliance has made a mess of the place.
It’s pretty clear that he’s carrying water for Vladimir Putin, I believe. A man he claims he doesn’t know.
The only thing that’s clear to me is that he is about as ignorant on world affairs as Sarah Palin, and possibly even less intellectually curious. Didn’t think that was possible, but here we are.
Well, but he knows he enough about Crimea to know the Russian’s excuse for invading in the first place.
And he knows enough about Ukraine to know that NATO and Obama are in the wrong there, just like the Russians say.
He is a deeply ignorant man - but he knows the Russian party line.
Khizr Khan has pretty much ripped Trump to shreds. The Republicans has their Joe the Plumber, we’ve got our Khizr. I’m really getting to like this guy and his honest, no holds barred smack-downs of Trump.
It would also be the first time anyone ever called Trump “useful”.
I’m truly beginning to believe that DJT is in some serious debt to “Russia”… Russian banks, pehaps an oligarch who loaned him $30-40 million, something.
Because either is is completely insane or under severe pressure coming from a host of factors: debt, campaigning, all the negative publicity, even to his wife.likely dumping on him for the speech embarrassment.
It’s like he’s being pressured to do something and is trying to sabotage the effort.
Shit, who am I kidding? He’s just insane.
It’s scary that insanity is the better option.
If you read the New Yorker article about the author of Art of the Deal, it seems that Trump can’t concentrate on anything long enough to understand foreign policy - thus he like Twitter and TV News. So it night be a learning disability (which he won’t admit to) more than lack of curiosity. I’ll make it clear that this doesn’t prevent someone from learning - unless they reject the need to learn in an effective way.
"How Paul Manafort Wielded Power in Ukraine Before Advising Donald Trump’
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/01/us/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-trump.html
I really don’t think that you can compare the two men. Joe the Plumber was a dishonest, self-centered idiot. Khizr Khan is anything but.
Yes, that’s exactly why the comparison is apt. The Republicans have their dishonest self-centered idiot being held up as an example of who their followers are, and the Democrats have Khan.