# Is Donald Trump really THAT bad? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 6, 2017, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135 "2017-02-06T00:58:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/41 "2017-02-06T21:48:29Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Howard points out how Trump loved the **crows** cheering for him during the election campaigning. . I love that typo. I hope they were not cheering but actually saying “Nevermore!” ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/42 "2017-02-06T21:51:49Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > But what kind of “losses” in this situation? There won’t be financial losses. And he can’t admit to losing anything. One of his biggest hot buttons is being called or even thought of as a loser. He will never see himself as a loser, and being portrayed as a loser only makes him dig in harder. Like with the popular vote and the size of inauguration crowed. His personality will not permit him to back down. So backing him into any kind of corner will only make him stick to his guns all the more. > > Boredom is a real possibility. Not just boredom, but the hassle of being President. All the shit you have to go through, the people you have to go through, the case you have to make, in short _\_ the POLITICS. The art of politics is give and take, you scratch my back, etc., NOT just giving orders and having them followed. He may get bored and just fed up with the pushback, the questioning, the foot-dragging, the multitude of details that must be synchronized to make the wheels of State even \*start \*turning, let alone turn smoothly. > > I could see him getting absolutely FED UP with the process and walking out, not because he failed, but because the system FAILED HIM. The system is so screwed up that it resisted his brilliant effort and hard work to make it run smoothly like a Trump Corporation :rolleyes: and so he doesn’t see wasting any more of his valuable and important time on such a fucked up piece of junk! > > That might work. Excellent post. ---
**Author:** ![markdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@markdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdash)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/43 "2017-02-06T22:21:34Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > He’s Worse. > > Should he ever try to slink away from his shit, as a people we need to make sure that he NEVER lives his shit down. > Not even when he’s 105 and in a walker. > > Never. Fuck that, I am not waiting 34 more years for that fucker to die. I already have party favors picked out. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/44 "2017-02-06T22:29:23Z")
[President Trump is now speculating that the media is covering up terrorist attacks](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/02/06/president-trump-is-now-speculating-that-the-media-is-covering-up-terrorist-attacks/?utm_term=.7cf6b53167c0#comments) > [@](#): > > Speaking to the U.S. Central Command on Monday, President Trump went off his prepared remarks to make a truly stunning claim: The media was intentionally covering up reports of terrorist attacks. > > "You’ve seen what happened in Paris, and Nice. All over Europe, it’s happening,” he said to the assembled military leaders. “It’s gotten to a point where it’s not even being reported. And in many cases the very, very dishonest press doesn’t want to report it. They have their reasons, and you understand that.” The man is delusional. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/45 "2017-02-06T22:47:57Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > [President Trump is now speculating that the media is covering up terrorist attacks](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/02/06/president-trump-is-now-speculating-that-the-media-is-covering-up-terrorist-attacks/?utm_term=.7cf6b53167c0#comments) > The man is delusional. And just last year, they accused the press of making up attacks, down to creating unreal “victims”. Talk about cognitive dissonance, ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/46 "2017-02-06T23:01:10Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > The man is delusional. What if he’s not though? What if he’s just willing to say w/e crap will get him what he wants? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/47 "2017-02-06T23:10:09Z")
> [@PatriotX](#): > > What if he’s not though? > > What if he’s just willing to say w/e crap will get him what he wants? Then he’s probably sociopathic. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/48 "2017-02-06T23:21:18Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > [President Trump is now speculating that the media is covering up terrorist attacks](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/02/06/president-trump-is-now-speculating-that-the-media-is-covering-up-terrorist-attacks/?utm_term=.7cf6b53167c0#comments) > The man is delusional. The scary thing is, no matter what lie he comes up with, the Faithful will eat it up. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/49 "2017-02-06T23:44:48Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > [President Trump is now speculating that the media is covering up terrorist attacks](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/02/06/president-trump-is-now-speculating-that-the-media-is-covering-up-terrorist-attacks/?utm_term=.7cf6b53167c0#comments) > The man is delusional. Well, send Kellyanne Conjob out to blow the whistle, like she did on the Bowling Green Massacre. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/50 "2017-02-06T23:45:27Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > [President Trump is now speculating that the media is covering up terrorist attacks](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/02/06/president-trump-is-now-speculating-that-the-media-is-covering-up-terrorist-attacks/?utm_term=.7cf6b53167c0#comments) > The man is delusional. He is repeating this from InfoWars. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/06/trumps-suggestion-that-the-media-is-ignoring-terrorist-attacks-has-a-familiar-source-infowars/?utm\_term=.f8cdaa22b693](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/06/trumps-suggestion-that-the-media-is-ignoring-terrorist-attacks-has-a-familiar-source-infowars/?utm_term=.f8cdaa22b693) Alex Jones makes sh\*t up as clickbait and our President repeats it in public. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/51 "2017-02-07T01:03:07Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Then he’s probably sociopathic. I’m pretty sure he’s a sociopath either way. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/52 "2017-02-07T01:20:16Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > But what kind of “losses” in this situation? There won’t be financial losses. And he can’t admit to losing anything. One of his biggest hot buttons is being called or even thought of as a loser. He will never see himself as a loser, and being portrayed as a loser only makes him dig in harder. Like with the popular vote and the size of inauguration crowed. His personality will not permit him to back down. So backing him into any kind of corner will only make him stick to his guns all the more. > > Boredom is a real possibility. Not just boredom, but the hassle of being President. All the shit you have to go through, the people you have to go through, the case you have to make, in short _\_ the POLITICS. The art of politics is give and take, you scratch my back, etc., NOT just giving orders and having them followed. He may get bored and just fed up with the pushback, the questioning, the foot-dragging, the multitude of details that must be synchronized to make the wheels of State even \*start \*turning, let alone turn smoothly. > > I could see him getting absolutely FED UP with the process and walking out, not because he failed, but because the system FAILED HIM. The system is so screwed up that it resisted his brilliant effort and hard work to make it run smoothly like a Trump Corporation :rolleyes: and so he doesn’t see wasting any more of his valuable and important time on such a fucked up piece of junk! > > That might work. When he ran companies into the ground, he got rescued by the government. Who’s going to rescue him when he runs the government into the ground? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/53 "2017-02-07T01:52:08Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > He is repeating this from InfoWars. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/06/trumps-suggestion-that-the-media-is-ignoring-terrorist-attacks-has-a-familiar-source-infowars/?utm\_term=.f8cdaa22b693](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/06/trumps-suggestion-that-the-media-is-ignoring-terrorist-attacks-has-a-familiar-source-infowars/?utm_term=.f8cdaa22b693) > > Alex Jones makes sh\*t up as clickbait and our President repeats it in public. > > Sigh. Re: Alex Jones Didn’t he go off on chemicals in the water making frogs gay? (Yes, this is real) Where were these chemicals coming from? What’s the thinking that abolishing the EPA will make this better? I freely admit I have a job and can’t keep up with this shit. Only democratic waste allowances make frogs gay? I guess republican waste allowances just kills them outright. Probably pleases Pence. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/54 "2017-02-07T02:17:00Z")
Indeed, that was Nixon’s main reason for founding the EPA in the first place. “We’re sending men to the moon every few months, bombing Cambodia is going as planned, and the Beatles just broke up…you know what America really needs? _Gay frogs._ If only we had a federal agency that could make this happen! Henry? Spiro? Get going on this!” ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/55 "2017-02-07T02:41:06Z")
One of the things that will help me get through this, besides SNL, is [“Wait, Wait, Don’t Tell Me”](http://www.npr.org/podcasts/344098539/wait-wait-don-t-tell-me). In this weeks show, host Peter Segal started the show with a message to Trump: > [@](#): > > Sir, we appreciate you giving us so much material…we really do…but would you mind slowing it down a bit? We only get an hour a week. Right now, we feel like Lucy and Ethyl trying to deal with all the chocolates…coming down the conveyer belt, but in our case, it’s not chocolate. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/56 "2017-02-07T03:36:43Z")
> [@jshore](#): > > One of the things that will help me get through this, besides SNL, is [“Wait, Wait, Don’t Tell Me”](http://www.npr.org/podcasts/344098539/wait-wait-don-t-tell-me). In this weeks show, host Peter Segal started the show with a message to Trump: I ADORE that program! ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/57 "2017-02-07T04:01:39Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > But a likely scenario is that things will be just slightly worse, but people will be told over and over that things are GREAT and many will believe it. Ask them at the end of 4 years if things are better for them and a significant portion will say “Things are GREAT!” while they drink unfiltered mud puddle water and trade a rusty shovel for an old chicken carcass for dinner. > > Of course, while this is happening, actual intelligent people will be spewing spittle while yelling red faced, “NO! THINGS AREN’T GREAT! THINGS ARE HEADED FOR THE CRAPPER YOU IDIOT!” But they will have no numbers to back it up because Trump closed that agency down, and the people they’re yelling at will just back away and vote for Trump again. Whhheeeeeeeeeeeee! Well the exact opposite has worked these last few years. Hannity talks endlessly about the fire and brimstone state of the economy, while dismissing “liberals’ figures” like GDP and the unemployment rate. And was it Newt that said he was more concerned with feelings that the actual data? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/58 "2017-02-07T04:29:38Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > When he ran companies into the ground, he got rescued by the government. Who’s going to rescue him when he runs the government into the ground? Putin. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/59 "2017-02-07T05:41:11Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Putin. Putin: George, I’m going all out to help in this crisis. I’ve just guaranteed the United States sufficient funds to meet their needs. They’ll close up for a week and then reopen. George Bailey: [to Uncle Billy] He just took over the US. Putin: I may lose a fortune, but I’m willing to guarantee your people, too. Just tell them to bring their states over here and I will pay fifty cents on the dollar. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135/60 "2017-02-07T05:47:13Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I ADORE that program! Now that they’ve attacked The Twit(terer), don’t be surprised when he tries to defund or close NPR down. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-donald-trump-really-that-bad/779135.md?page=4)